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It's better than Gilmore's. Gilmore's shit kick practically cost us the game against Geelong in 2008, and was notorious for kicking into the man on the mark, etc.
It might have been a nicer style, but it didn't go where it was meant to.
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It might have been a nicer style, but it didn't go where it was meant to.
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Norm Smith Medallist
i believe the point was more that he didnt know where it was meant to go
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i doubt you would have a clue about what hinks is capable of. he gets a lot of unfair bagging on this board IMO, im tipping a big year from him, why dont you just focus on your team
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legitimatic
Premiership Player
This is just simply wrong, plain and simple.
Wondering if you ever got a chance to watch either of these boys at WAFL level
, Pearce has superior disposal- no question.
legitimatic
Premiership Player
This is true dom, it's all we have to hang our hope upon, that said we aren't nearly as bad as Melbourne fans in this regard, a few high draft picks and apparently their decade of domination is about to commence
Bradesmaen
TheBrownDog
I agree, he has superior decision making.This is just simply wrong, plain and simple.
Wondering if you ever got a chance to watch either of these boys at WAFL level
This is true dom, it's all we have to hang our hope upon, that said we aren't nearly as bad as Melbourne fans in this regard, a few high draft picks and apparently their decade of domination is about to commence
They still have a long way to go, but really they're better off long term with another bottom 2 finish this year and next than finishing 11th.
Kicking efficiency of 71.9 % Better than Hill, Suban, Pav, Mundy,Walters, Headland, Ibbotson etc. Got another pearl of wisdom for us Brades?
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- #36
Brades rates players on style points.Kicking efficiency of 71.9 % Better than Hill, Suban, Pav, Mundy,Walters, Headland, Ibbotson etc. Got another pearl of wisdom for us Brades?
Bradesmaen
TheBrownDog
You realise that a helicopter kick isn't automatically an ineffective kick? Of course you don't.Kicking efficiency of 71.9 % Better than Hill, Suban, Pav, Mundy,Walters, Headland, Ibbotson etc. Got another pearl of wisdom for us Brades?
gravy, I give you a 4.5 for technical ability and a 7 for execution. Could be better.
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- #38
What's that matter? James Hird's kicking style wasn't textbook, but they went where he wanted.
So you are saying that if a kick hits its target and is a helicopter then it is no good and that it cant possibly be a mark when it is taken by a Freo player? Is that right? Do the umpires know this?
Someone had better let the AFL and Carlton know, they will have to take away 700 of Stephen Kernahan's 738 goals because they were helicopters. Bridesmaid said that they dont count because they dont look good!
Bradesmaen
TheBrownDog
Way to completely blow everything out of proportions and context.
The guy hits helicopters. At times it will go to a Freo player, other times it will drop short and end up ineffective. This is why generally guys with the most technically correct kicks are so much better. Suban for instance. An infinitely better kick than Pearce.
IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN
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- #41
Pretty awesome comparison there. Actually, Pearce's kicks arent as good as Daniel Rich or Luke Hodge either. Delist him now tbfh.
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Suban-Kicking efficiency of 57.1% Pearce Kicking efficiency of 71.9% it looks like you theory has a tremendous hole in it Brades. Care to go for another attempt?
Even you would have to admit that it is better that a kick goes to another Fremantle player 71.9% of the time during a game rather than 57.1% of the time. Irrelevant of how good the technique of the kick is. Or would you rather a pretty kick like Subans go beautifully off the boot into the oppositions hands?
You cant argue with the facts Brades, no matter how much of your spin that you try to put on it. Suban may be pretty, Pearce is more efficient and accurate.
Maybe we can cover one or two but I wouldn't say we have good depth
If we had depth why would we be among the favourites for the spoon
If we had depth why would we be among the favourites for the spoon
IAMJUNGLEMUFFIN
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- #44
While i am a fan of Pearce, and definately on the disagree that hes a shit kick bus, i will say, that even though Suban's kicking may have been less efficient last year, the hurt factor of them is unbelievable.
Some of those kicks coming off Half Back last year where truelly flood busters. I can still see the 55+ metre bombs, flying over the top of the opposition players, into the arms of one of our own, without the guy breaking step, then looking up into 50 metres of open ground.
I'd really like to see him as one of our major set play focal points coming out of kick ins. Would only need the receiving player to run a few yards, or hit up a short lead, for us to be having a shot on goal
Some of those kicks coming off Half Back last year where truelly flood busters. I can still see the 55+ metre bombs, flying over the top of the opposition players, into the arms of one of our own, without the guy breaking step, then looking up into 50 metres of open ground.
I'd really like to see him as one of our major set play focal points coming out of kick ins. Would only need the receiving player to run a few yards, or hit up a short lead, for us to be having a shot on goal
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While i am a fan of Pearce, and definately on the disagree that hes a shit kick bus, i will say, that even though Suban's kicking may have been less efficient last year, the hurt factor of them is unbelievable.
Some of those kicks coming off Half Back last year where truelly flood busters. I can still see the 55+ metre bombs, flying over the top of the opposition players, into the arms of one of our own, without the guy breaking step, then looking up into 50 metres of open ground.
I'd really like to see him as one of our major set play focal points coming out of kick ins. Would only need the receiving player to run a few yards, or hit up a short lead, for us to be having a shot on goal
Agreed. What is the criteria for an efficient kick anyway? Wouldn't it reward the Joel Bowden types who rack up the numbers with dinky 20m kicks all the time? Whereas Suban tends to thump the ball 50-55 metres down the field, so there's always a high chance that that the opposition will get hold of it.
I think the problem with Gilmore was decision making, plain and simple. Not so much the technique but the lack of a brain. From what I've seen of Pearce (his AFL games) he seems more composed overall, and good value closer to goals.
GeorgeGrljusich
Club Legend
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- #46
Because bookmakers are dickheads. Perhaps?
Or maybe because markets are generally framed in the eastern states and they don't do proper due diligence?
Or maybe most people see us on an average of 3-4 games a year and base opinions on that?
Maybe most people wouldn't know crap about the younger half of our list if they tripped over it?
Maybe people are like some Freo supporters and believe that history will just keep on repeating itself?
Oh..I dunno..it's all too hard.
Bradesmaen
TheBrownDog
Its like talking to a child. You just have no idea what you are talking about, whatsoever. This has nothing to do with efficiency %'s.
All we hear about is Suban this, Suban that. But as soon as I bring his name into an efficiency debate, you criticise him. Just shows you that this has nothing to do with the topic at hand and more to do with the fact that I'm the one posting. Grow up.
Bridesmaid, you are the one who stated that one player has a far great kick than another. How do you plan to quantify that? You are the moron that is ignoring all of the facts and statistics.
Why dont you go and create a new method of measuring the quality of a players kicking technique? go ahead, how are you going to determine who's action is better by comparison. When you succeed why dont you let Champion Data, the AFL and all of the news outlets know.
I am going to keep this REALLY simple because I am obviously dealing with a flat out MORON!
A good kick is one that finds its intended target. This is measured by Kicking efficiency. because a kick looks pretty does not mean it is effective.
You are the one making wildy inaccurate statements not me. Get over yourself . Child!
GeorgeGrljusich
Club Legend
- Banned
- #49
Aint love grand!
Bradesmaen
TheBrownDog
Point proven, thanks.
