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Ill put money on hes talking about Brad Ottens.

Jars writes that he would be the Crows no.1 recruiting target. Then mentions its not Nick Holland. So it must be some other big name player.

Harris, Brooks (not even SAlien), Jamar arent exactly big names.

Rivers has had a lot of hype so it may be him. But my money would be hes talking about Ottens given the Crows need for a ruckman.


Just on Brooks. He wouldnt have played one minute at CHB. He spent most games firmly sitting on the bench.
 
Originally posted by Macca19
Ill put money on hes talking about Brad Ottens.

Jars writes that he would be the Crows no.1 recruiting target. Then mentions its not Nick Holland. So it must be some other big name player.

Harris, Brooks (not even SAlien), Jamar arent exactly big names.

Rivers has had a lot of hype so it may be him. But my money would be hes talking about Ottens given the Crows need for a ruckman.
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You're a reasonable judge Macca.

If it was Ottens, should the Crows chase him??

If so, what should they be preared to give up to get him??
 
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
Heard on the radio (ABC Adelaide feed to Melbourne) that it's Barnaby French. Don't know how accurate their source is though.
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That'll be it for me if that's who they're chasing. :( He's an A grade dud.
 

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Originally posted by macca23
That'll be it for me if that's who they're chasing. :( He's an A grade dud.
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Yeah the announcement didn't excite me too much. They said something along the lines of the fact that he wasn't happy in Melbourne and wanted to comeback and play for the Crows. Bit presumptive if you ask me. Also the guy will be 29 yo at the start of next season. For a 2nd ruck option stick with Hudson I say. That's the future.
 
Originally posted by macca23
You're a reasonable judge Macca.

If it was Ottens, should the Crows chase him??

If so, what should they be preared to give up to get him??
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I would trade Burton ans change for Ottens is a split second ;)

Burton gives us genuine marking target in the forward line and a clanger king on the wing. Ottens gives us a genuine marking target in the forward line and a very good ruckman. I think we will be better off and plus Ottens is younger. :)

James Fantasia take note ;)
 
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
Heard on the radio (ABC Adelaide feed to Melbourne) that it's Barnaby French. Don't know how accurate their source is though.
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Great we finally offload Marsh and now we are going after Barnaby French:rolleyes: Thats the AFC for ya:mad:
 
Originally posted by macca23
You're a reasonable judge Macca.

If it was Ottens, should the Crows chase him??

If so, what should they be preared to give up to get him??
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I reckon Ottens has been a major dissapointment so far over his career. He had that excellent season but has been fairly dissapointing since, even allowing for his major injury.

He is still young (24) and therefore is Richmonds future ruck for the next 6+ years. They dont have any young ruckmen pushing thru so would have to rely on the 30 year old Stafford and the dud Marsh until they trade/recruit a reasonable replacement.

Therefore they would want ask for a top 15 pick and regular AFL player i reckon. Dunno what sorta player they would be after but your first pick in the draft would definately have to be given up. Biglands + first round pick maybe.

If its French, i dont believe the Crows would go after him. Why bother? Hes getting on, hes not a first string ruckmen, hes average around the ground. 3-4th round draft pick at most. Theres more chance of the Crows trying to get Ben Marsh back than going after French i reckon.
 
If Ottens did want to go to Adelaide, and not just bumping his contract up, then if I was the AFC I would almost move Heaven and Earth to get him.
Given his recent form it will be a bit of a gamble and you may end up paying too much for him, but a worthwhile gamble nevertheless.
He is still young, the type of player that you lack (forward come Ruckman) and has shown that he can produce a big season.

Your cost would be a good player plus first rounder.
Having said that, who would you be willing to part with?
Burtons name has been thrown around, but I would keep him at all cost as well.
He can be as good for you in your forward line as Hamill is to St Kilda. Different players, but same type of results.
Who else is there?
 
Originally posted by Macca19

Therefore they would want ask for a top 15 pick and regular AFL player i reckon. Dunno what sorta player they would be after but your first pick in the draft would definately have to be given up. Biglands + first round pick maybe.

If its French, i dont believe the Crows would go after him. Why bother? Hes getting on, hes not a first string ruckmen, hes average around the ground. 3-4th round draft pick at most. Theres more chance of the Crows trying to get Ben Marsh back than going after French i reckon.
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Biglands plus first round sounds about right.

I'd do that trade if it were available, but sadly I've never heard any whispers of Ottens wanting to come home.

I was told by a fairly reliable source last night that it's Barnaby French who does want to come back to Adelaide, and specifically the Crows. I hope he's wrong on this one.

Everything you've said about French is true. It would be one of the most unexciting trades of all time if it happened, because it wouldn't add very much, if anything to the squad.

You've got his value pegged spot on, but I'd rather trade an average player for him, because that's what we would be getting in return
 
I would say it's Brad Ottens seeings jars has said the player would be our number one target.Not to many other tall players originally from S.A would be worth the effort IMO.
 
If AFC trade a 1st round pick for the next 3 years they deserve to be shot and the premises burnt down :mad:

That would be the dumbest decision they could possibly make. 1st round draft pick should be untouchable unless you are getting another one in return.

As for French, why the hell would we need him??????:confused: The way Clarke is going he will probably play another year, we would still have Biglands and Hudson, and if Andrews continues his good form then he would be promoted. I would rather give Andrews a go than get French.

If we trade for French then it would be another one of those David Gallagher - Ben Nelson, dud for dud trades. Iw ould stay as far away from French as possible.
 

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Originally posted by PAfolwr
Burtons name has been thrown around, but I would keep him at all cost as well.
He can be as good for you in your forward line as Hamill is to St Kilda. Different players, but same type of results.
Who else is there?
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I would like to keep him as a forward but not at all costs. If we were getting someone like Ottens in return I would give him up without a second thought. Burton is really one dimesional. Even his marking is a mixed bag. He flies for everything in his area but how many times does he complete a mark he gets his hands on?????? Lets not even start on his field kicking.:(
 
Reading the article my first thought was Ottens. But didn't Jars mention something about wanting to be with his family? I'm pretty sure Ottens has his mum and brother leaving in Melbourne at the momment.
 
Originally posted by kretchy
Reading the article my first thought was Ottens. But didn't Jars mention something about wanting to be with his family? I'm pretty sure Ottens has his mum and brother leaving in Melbourne at the momment.
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They are living in Adelaide ATM but a little while ago Ottens was on 5AA and he said his brother and his family or sister and her family are comng back to Adelaide.

I highly doubt that it is Ottens
 
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I would like to keep him as a forward but not at all costs. If we were getting someone like Ottens in return I would give him up without a second thought. Burton is really one dimesional. Even his marking is a mixed bag. He flies for everything in his area but how many times does he complete a mark he gets his hands on?????? Lets not even start on his field kicking.:(
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If Mark Williams wasn't the coach I'd have him at Port in an instant as the third tall.
With Williams though he would probably be played at HBF or wing, in which case ... no thanks.
 

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Originally posted by PAfolwr
If Mark Williams wasn't the coach I'd have him at Port in an instant as the third tall.
With Williams though he would probably be played at HBF or wing, in which case ... no thanks.
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Same crap happening at Crows. :(

Burton would make a very good forward especially if given time to roam around inside 50 and run his man into the ground BUT coaching staff and some of the supporters think he is better as a wingman. I wonder where would someone like Matthews play the Birdman.
 
Its definitely Barnaby French!!!

Given that he will be 29 yo this year, and as "good" marking around the ground as Clarke - i would at best trade our number 57 or lower draft pick for him - or trade Shirley - i dont think i would even trade Smith for him :D

As Stiffy has already stated - Clarke can go another year, Biglands and Hudson are still ok, and i too would rather see Andrews thrown into the deep end than waste a top 50 draft pick on French.

As for Jars saying he is AFC's number 1 target - then

(1) either the AFC recruiting team have got rocks in their heads - and i dont think thats the case (last year's recruiting(Watts, Krueger, Hudson, Andrews, Stephens) was imo on the right track apart from the rookie listings exc Andrews)

or (2) Jars himself has got rocks in his head (no comment on that) if he thinks French would be a number 1 priority target

or (3) perhaps the AFC is using their top 50 or so picks to actually draft some youngsters thus leaving something like no 57 as our highest pick available for trade - i.e. in which case French can be said to be our no 1 target (at no 57 or lower! :)
 
Clarke can go another year, he has said he doesn't want to.

French would be a good player for another 3 years or so, enough time to blood and develop our young bigs.

if he didn't cost much, I could see him as a clever pick up.
 
Originally posted by jc67
Negotiation ploy
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bull****.

Clarke has said for a long time that 2004 will be his last season.
He could probably make more money in a vet practice than what he is on now.

I'll bet anyone a lunch that Clarke won't play next year.
Any takers?
 
Originally posted by naughty monkey
bull****.

Clarke has said for a long time that 2004 will be his last season.
He could probably make more money in a vet practice than what he is on now.

I'll bet anyone a lunch that Clarke won't play next year.
Any takers?
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Won't get me betting you NM, as I agree with what you have said. Going after French would be a huge mistake, unless we get him for bugger all. Wouldn't swap any of our 1st 4 picks for him.
 

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