Disabilities

[ben.carbonaro]

Hi,
Just wanted everyone's thought on disabilities from a social, cultural or political view point ?

Thanks

 

[MillerCHF]

Hi,
Just wanted everyone's thought on disabilities from a social, culturla or political view point ?

Thanks

Hi, I can't be bothered going and posting on the General board, but I saw your posts on the deaflympics, and wanted to tell you that I went to see some deaflympics action at the MSAC. I saw volleyball (Ukraine v. Russia) and handball (USA v. Denmark and Croatia v. Germany). And what I saw were some damn good sportsmen (much better than me anyway) playing in front of a very enthusiastic crowd. Made me proud that Melbourne could host such a great event.

Not sure what you're getting at with this question, but I'll say those who make fun of the disabled are immature and should be ignored. And I think there needs to be more public awareness about disabilities, especially in our school system. Too many people are unaware of the issues (including myself admittedly) and think disabled people are completely different, or something not even human. The truth is, disabled people are no different from everybody else, apart from the fact that they have a disability, be it deafness, spine diseases, etc. This isn't something to discriminate against or make fun of, it's a common thing and our society needs to learn to deal with it.

 

[- PC -]

Not sure what you're getting at with this question, but I'll say those who make fun of the disabled are immature and should be ignored. And I think there needs to be more public awareness about disabilities, especially in our school system. Too many people are unaware of the issues (including myself admittedly) and think disabled people are completely different, or something not even human. The truth is, disabled people are no different from everybody else, apart from the fact that they have a disability, be it deafness, spine diseases, etc. This isn't something to discriminate against or make fun of, it's a common thing and our society needs to learn to deal with it.

I will agree in general to most of your points here, but depending on the level of derision, humour can deflect and make more of a contribution to the understanding of disabilities than a condescending attitude.

I agree with your comment that people with disabilities are normal members of society , all be with some issues, and like any group there tend to be the ones who will use their disabilities to embarrass or harrass people into actions that in an otherwise healthy person would be frowned upon.

 

[dan warna]

when young, I was given an opportunity to visit a school for special needs children (then run by the now innappropriately named ******* society). we got to travel in the old blue busses.

one of the kids who was a tour guide for us said "make faces out the back it really freaks out the drivers" and it did.

It was a depressing day meeting kids who were teenagers and knew they were going to die in the next few years, or kids who were born with no limbs or vestigial limbs, or impairments of speach, hearing etc or others.

I don't think I could say I have the courage of those kids.

I remember being in the tram to work with another instructor who could sign and them telling me after we got off the tram that the deaf kids were taking the ******** out of some of the other passengers.

they are human as well. just have to work harder than some other people to achieve the same things.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

Hi, I can't be bothered going and posting on the General board, but I saw your posts on the deaflympics, and wanted to tell you that I went to see some deaflympics action at the MSAC. I saw volleyball (Ukraine v. Russia) and handball (USA v. Denmark and Croatia v. Germany). And what I saw were some damn good sportsmen (much better than me anyway) playing in front of a very enthusiastic crowd. Made me proud that Melbourne could host such a great event.

Not sure what you're getting at with this question, but I'll say those who make fun of the disabled are immature and should be ignored. And I think there needs to be more public awareness about disabilities, especially in our school system. Too many people are unaware of the issues (including myself admittedly) and think disabled people are completely different, or something not even human. The truth is, disabled people are no different from everybody else, apart from the fact that they have a disability, be it deafness, spine diseases, etc. This isn't something to discriminate against or make fun of, it's a common thing and our society needs to learn to deal with it.

Thanks for your worthwhile comments, much appreciated and it shows that tehre are some people out there who do have a genuine appreciation of and repsect for all people regardless of the fact that they have a disability. However, not everyone thinks this and it might be elimanted or minimised if education programs are introduced into schools as well as the wider community.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

when young, I was given an opportunity to visit a school for special needs children (then run by the now innappropriately named ******* society). we got to travel in the old blue busses.

one of the kids who was a tour guide for us said "make faces out the back it really freaks out the drivers" and it did.

It was a depressing day meeting kids who were teenagers and knew they were going to die in the next few years, or kids who were born with no limbs or vestigial limbs, or impairments of speach, hearing etc or others.

I don't think I could say I have the courage of those kids.

I remember being in the tram to work with another instructor who could sign and them telling me after we got off the tram that the deaf kids were taking the ******** out of some of the other passengers.

they are human as well. just have to work harder than some other people to achieve the same things.

Thanks for your description of what most certainly must have been an interesting experience for you at such a young age in your life.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

I will agree in general to most of your points here, but depending on the level of derision, humour can deflect and make more of a contribution to the understanding of disabilities than a condescending attitude.

I agree with your comment that people with disabilities are normal members of society , all be with some issues, and like any group there tend to be the ones who will use their disabilities to embarrass or harrass people into actions that in an otherwise healthy person would be frowned upon.

Yeah, true. I have memories from primary and high school of being ordered to do something by fellow students so that they could laugh at me. If someone else were to have done it, it wouldn't have been funny at all but quite a serious bad behaviour.

One particular incident was when I was picked up by a certain bully who will remain nameless and he threw me over the fence. Pretty much fell flat on my face onto the road which was hot and sticky as well as being hard due to the weather conditions. Then he rounded up almost the entire year level to form a gate so I couldn't get back over. Becoming very frsutrated, I began to cry due ot my autism kicking in. What's more interesting is the fact that the guy who did it only received a very minor slap on the wrist.

Anyone here who has a disabilities got an experience of that ?

What are all of your thoughts on the social and cultural aspects of disabilities ?

Personally, have found that being involved in the Deaf community both directly and indirectly that has opened an entire new set of cultural and social aspects which I never knew even existed because having been bought up in a hearing world my entire life.

 

[goal_umpire]

Whenever you see somebody being bullied because of their disability it is best to alert a friend or even your parents or somebody higher up so that they can deal with those nasty ppl.

That's what I do whenever I see some person blocking the way for a person in a wheelchair to go through at SMB. I alert one of the teachers and they deal with the person who bullied the person in a wheelchair.

Hey Ben,

If I see you at the footy one day, (in Ballarat or at Sunbury) I will come past and say hi to you.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

Whenever you see somebody being bullied because of their disability it is best to alert a friend or even your parents or somebody higher up so that they can deal with those nasty ppl.

That's what I do whenever I see some person blocking the way for a person in a wheelchair to go through at SMB. I alert one of the teachers and they deal with the person who bullied the person in a wheelchair.

Hey Ben,

If I see you at the footy one day, (in Ballarat or at Sunbury) I will come past and say hi to you.

Yeah, but this was happening to me mate and something that was all tha easily resolved due to each person having a different perspective with regards to what actually happened.

However, what's annoying is the fact that a lot of teachers don't know how best tpo deal with these sorts of things. More promotion nedds to be done in the winder community and especially in schools so people know what exactly they can expect and that these people don't deserve to cop anything.

Am involved with Rupertswood FC in the VAFA, but am swtiching to Werribee in the VFL doing stats work. However, have read your posts before and they are always a good read.

Lastly, whats SMB ?

 

[goal_umpire]

Yeah, but this was happening to me mate and something that was all tha easily resolved due to each person having a different perspective with regards to what actually happened.

However, what's annoying is the fact that a lot of teachers don't know how best tpo deal with these sorts of things. More promotion nedds to be done in the winder community and especially in schools so people know what exactly they can expect and that these people don't deserve to cop anything.

Am involved with Rupertswood FC in the VAFA, but am swtiching to Werribee in the VFL doing stats work. However, have read your posts before and they are always a good read.

Lastly, whats SMB ?

School Of Mines, it's part of the Ballarat uni.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

School Of Mines, it's part of the Ballarat uni.

Alright, so like a speicalist faculty inside the uni ?

My one is School of Creative Media for my tafe course.

 

[goal_umpire]

No it is a tafe college and it used to be the old Ballarat Gaol.

It is the name of the tafe college.

 

[ben.carbonaro]

No it is a tafe college and it used to be the old Ballarat Gaol.

It is the name of the tafe college.

Alright ok, interesting venue for a tafe college.

Have you had any sort of experience with deaf people or the deaf community in general ?

 

[footyfreak]

Hi,
Just wanted everyone's thought on disabilities from a social, cultural or political view point ?

Thanks

What a strange question

I feel sorry for people with true disabilities and am blown away often by what they are able to accomplish. I wonder how i would handle things if i was in their situation.

But i despise people who use fake disabilities or issues that are so minor they shouldn't be called disabilities to get an easy ride through life. You know what i mean don't you Ben?

And then there are the people that appear to be mentally disabled but are just flat out F'ing stupid. These people annoy the shit out of me but provide many lulz.

Hope that answers part of your muti pronged question Ben.

p.s. Sorry for the delay too

 

[Wally Carter]

Hi,
Just wanted everyone's thought on disabilities from a social, cultural or political view point ?

Thanks

We need to breed out the genetic predispositions for disability in human beings.

All other disabilities should be handled according to the individual merits of each case.

 

[Ted38]

We need to breed out the genetic predispositions for disability in human beings.

All other disabilities should be handled according to the individual merits of each case.

Would be great Wally if we ever do reach that level of expertise, cant see it happening for a long time yet though regretably.

 

[Wally Carter]

Would be great Wally if we ever do reach that level of expertise, cant see it happening for a long time yet though regretably.

I know a moronic woman that has a genetic predisposition to cystic fibrosis bring a little girl in to the world born with the disease, who had to put up with horrible suffering before succumbing to the illness. The same woman, who could not control her maternal instinct, got pregnant again, and yep......brought another kid with cystic fibrosis in to the world.

There is no argument you can put forth to change my view that she should have been sterilized.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

I know a moronic woman that has a genetic predisposition to cystic fibrosis bring a little girl in to the world born with the disease, who had to put up with horrible suffering before succumbing to the illness. The same woman, who could not control her maternal instinct, got pregnant again, and yep......brought another kid with cystic fibrosis in to the world.

There is no argument you can put forth to change my view that she should have been sterilized.

Forced sterilisation is a big step and opens a rather ugly can of worms, although I can actually see what you're saying. That mother would have known her children would be born with cystic fibrosis - it borders on child abuse that she went ahead knowing the risks. That she had two born with the disease shows it wasn't a low-risk decision either.

 

[footyfreak]

Would be great Wally if we ever do reach that level of expertise, cant see it happening for a long time yet though regretably.

would be the norm if the Nazi's had of got up.

 

[Wally Carter]

would be the norm if the Nazi's had of got up.

They actually had a few good ideas.

 

[bit_pattern]

would be the norm if the Nazi's had of got up.

 

[LondonCalling]

I'd post, but my autism senses are tingling....must...control....rage.....turning...green....help...me......Lou.....Ferigno...

 

[campbell]

They actually had a few good ideas.

and what may they have been.

as for forced sterilisation and some poking fun at people with disabilities, you are a real disgrace imo.

 

[LondonCalling]

Would you care to elaborate on why forced sterilisation is such a disgrace in your eyes, especially in such a case as what the previous poster presented, or are you just getting on the moral high horse again?

Don't really have any particular strong opinions on it myself, but just wondering if there's anything more to this rather than just hurling morally outrated abuse?

 

[campbell]

CF, take 2 parents to be defective, not just the one.

The development of CF in the fetus requires each parent to pass on a mutated copy of the CFTR gene

So just because a mother has the mutation, why should she be sterilised?