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little graham said:
With DMT, society is clearly paranoid.

If society banned DMT because it makes people serial killers or rapists, wife beaters and dangerous drivers, created cancer epidemics etc etc they would be banning it because they understand what happens. But if they have no idea what DMT does and they ban it, its can be nothing other than paranoia.
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Society hasn't banned it, countries governments have made it illegal. It's decriminalised in a few forward thinking countries.

Those that have made it illegal aren't paranoid, they just simply ban most drugs going round out of habit.
 
Yellow Feathers said:
GG is a straight laced, conservative hate-monger that is an "expert" on something he knows absolutely nothing about.

If it's not something you want to do? Fine. There's no reason to attack other people for living a life that is different to yours. I assume that you dress in woman's clothing and parade about the house in poorly applied lipstick... And you know what? Good for you, man. I'm happy you enjoy yourself.

Live and let live. If I take DMT it has no effect on your life whatsoever so mind your own business.

You have no idea how ridiculous you sound, by the way. The experience is so foreign that it really is like explaining colour to a blind man. Right now you're the blind man telling me that colours don't exist. You're literally that ignorant.
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And you're the self-proclaimed font of DMT knowledge. GG can't have an opinion because he's never tried it, scientists can't use thousands of studies on drugs of many varieties because they have never tried, Sydney Bloods is wrong because he doesn't know how to take it properly. I think the main concern people have is the reckless advocating of this drug as a safe and wonderful weekly addition to our lives. Great, you enjoy it and it does you no harm (that you know of yet, but you can't guarantee), but there may be impressionable people reading this thread who take you at your word and if they are vulnerable to the damage that can be caused by hallucinogenic drugs, they could end up in a world of pain.
But don't worry, I'll be the first one sucking up to you when the aliens attack and you are their BFF because of a psychotropic relationship you have built with them.
 

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JD11 said:
But everything we do messes with the brain!

Sitting on the computer all night? Messing with the brain. Going for a really long run? Messing with the brain. Taking a new stressful job? Messing with the brain. Banging your girlfriend? Messing with the brain. Dropping acid at a playground at 2am on a Tuesday? Messing with the brain.

Psychedelic drugs are anything but 'clear cut'...
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Untrue, the human body has been doing these thing for thousands of years and is perfectly adapted to them. The psychological benefits of exercise and sex are undeniable.
 
little graham said:
How many people do you think admit to using or preferring an illegal substance compared to those that do partake but deny because of the impact it could have on their work and social life? So I would like to know where you your get information on how popular pot is or is not.

I know coppers who smoke pot.
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Here is your best chance of getting some legitimate evidence rather than the old SWIM does A,B or C:
http://www.globaldrugsurvey.com/GDS2014/
 
little graham said:
With DMT, society is clearly paranoid.

If society banned DMT because it makes people serial killers or rapists, wife beaters and dangerous drivers, created cancer epidemics etc etc they would be banning it because they understand what happens. But if they have no idea what DMT does and they ban it, its can be nothing other than paranoia.

I'm scared of White sharks in the places I swim that they're known to feed for snapper at. That fear has lead me to understand where and when they feed, the time of year their food source is around and the appearance of certain birds and the behaviors of other sea life. That fear has lead me to work out when I can swim and spear fish there safety.

If i didn't have respect and knowledge for what I was scared of, i wouldn't and would be stuck in a paranoid state and that paranoia will lead me to hate, which will lead to suffering.

Bit of hate in here..
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No, as a civilised society we have an obligation to look after each other, otherwise there would be chaos. At times this appears as though we are creating a nanny state, but the fact is that drug use causes a s**tload of problems and sometimes the government needs to step in to protect people from themselves and to protect those are innocent bystanders. We don't know much about DMT, so lets study it and figure out it's level of safety or harm before we let it loose on society.
 
little graham said:
Which means that psychedelic drugs produce peaceful and enlightning societies exactly as the OP insinuated.:thumbsu:
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Who unfortunately fell foul of natural selection. FYI, none of those societies were peaceful. They all had numerous wars, they just weren't very good at it. Maybe there's a connection to the pyschadelic drugs. But hey, none of us can comment about it, because we haven't tried living in an ancient civilisation.
 

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Deliverance said:
No, as a civilised society we have an obligation to look after each other, otherwise there would be chaos.
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Show me how we look after eachother? i can't see how in any civilized society (if we did look after eachother) there would be need for lawyers (who only help people with money)
 
Thread was heading off the rails, now the train's completely flipped.

Reckon its time to close the thread.
 
little graham said:
so genocide is natural selection but drugs are bad?
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............ mmmmmkay..... o_O

What a disgusting mindset you have deliverance.

"as a civilised society we have to look out for each other" ....... except for tribes in the amazon smoking DMT - go forth and use your "natural selection advantage" to annhilate them.
 
For those of you who smoke pot, try cooking your munchies in organic cold pressed coconut oil.It supplies your brain with clean energy. Its like the difference between lightning lighting up the sky compared to a spotlight from a coal powered generator when you replace the sugar/fast carbs brain food with it.

I had just fried up some organic kangaroo mince, with kale,carrot ,broccoli,chinese cabbage,cauliflower and crushed garlic cloves. Followed by a cincemella chaser.. Only unnatural ingredient was the tally ho rolly paper.
 
little graham said:
For those of you who smoke pot, try cooking your munchies in organic cold pressed coconut oil.It supplies your brain with clean energy. Its like the difference between lightning lighting up the sky compared to a spotlight from a coal powered generator when you replace the sugar/fast carbs brain food with it.

I had just fried up some organic kangaroo mince, with kale,carrot ,broccoli,chinese cabbage,cauliflower and crushed garlic cloves. Followed by a cincemella chaser.. Only unnatural ingredient was the tally ho rolly paper.
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LOLZAS

That is so funny.... I pretty much spend most of my time on BF on the health board reading paleo; Low carb high fat; intermittent fasting; etc threads and i honestly thought i'd popped into one of those, not the DMT one.

Don't know where your post came from but anyways....

..................try MCT oil ftw :thumbsu:
 

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little graham said:
Which means that psychedelic drugs produce peaceful and enlightning societies exactly as the OP insinuated.:thumbsu:
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All of my experiences are supremely positive and enlightening. I believe they make me better, more caring with more empathy for my fellow man.

I'm checking out of this thread. I refuse to argue with fools and thus give them recognition. The spirituality of this planet has been sucked dry, and we're left with empty shells of people. DMT is crazy eh? I guess the fact that we're hurtling through a limitless universe isn't. Neither is the fact that we evolved from a single celled bacteria hundreds of millions of years ago. Or the fact that the whole universe could be holigram. String theory. The fact that we're arguing through electronic signals, thousands of kilometres apart.

All that is completely normal. The idea that we're all connected though energy and that DMT is a medium for it is just nuts though.

I feel sorry for you people that have lost all sense of purpose, spirituality and the strength to challenge status quo ideas. There's more to our existance than you could posssibly know- yet somehow you're all experts on what life is.

Now some quotes from the great Einstein:

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds"

"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."
"We still do not know one thousandth of one percent of what nature has revealed to us"
 
K guys, I'm done with this thread. You guys are more closed minded than me. You won't even entertain the fact that this drug could be harmful. For the sake of society, I hope you do do this stuff quietly away from others and don't harm anyone in your family, circle of friends or the wider community.

PS. drugs are a part of natural selection. The only sad part is they wipe out innocent bystanders along the way.

PPS "as a civilised society we have to look out for each other" ....... except for tribes in the amazon smoking DMT - go forth and use your "natural selection advantage" to annhilate them."
I didn't develop natural selection (maybe Bhudda did), I didn't annihilate them nor am I advocating genocide, simply stating the facts of history. It's you who has a terrible attitude promoting behaviours that could potentially devastate a persons life or the lives of those around them.

I will leave you with this, because it's funny:
 
Yellow Feathers said:
All of my experiences are supremely positive and enlightening. I believe they make me better, more caring with more empathy for my fellow man.

I'm checking out of this thread. I refuse to argue with fools and thus give them recognition. The spirituality of this planet has been sucked dry, and we're left with empty shells of people. DMT is crazy eh? I guess the fact that we're hurtling through a limitless universe isn't. Neither is the fact that we evolved from a single celled bacteria hundreds of millions of years ago. Or the fact that the whole universe could be holigram. String theory. The fact that we're arguing through electronic signals, thousnds of kilometres apart.

All that is completely normal. The idea that we're all connected though energy and that DMT is a medium for it is just nuts though.

I feel sorry for you people that have lost all sense of purpose, spirituality and the strength to challenge status quo ideas. There's more to our existance than you could posssibly know- yet somehow you're all experts on what life is.

Now some quotes from the great Einstein:

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds"

"Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better."
"We still do not know one thousandth of one percent of what nature has revealed to us"
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I completely and utterly endorse every word, every sentence, every point. Gov and the media rely on keeping us in the small little world of fear and stress so we work for them as they plunder rape murder and pillage everything they can. Psychedelic drugs remove the user from that world they create and allows the user to see reality, the big picture,to feel for fellow humans. That is why they are banned.

Look at my sig, Lennon nailed it 5 decades ago when acid was purer than Himalayan spring water.
 

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