Review Do we need a new coach? Part 2

[Tango67]

Dimma can take Peggy and Gale with him they are as much to blame, all 3 have disrespected this great club

 

[Bachars Beard]

Exactly and even if we didn't that shouldn't be factored into the decision making. The bloke isn't up to the task.

 

[Tiger4Ever]

Yep he's breaking his own records now.

Someone better let him know that the curve is meant to be on an upward trend. Would love to know what his KPIs actually are, if indeed there are any?, we must have set the bar ridiculously low.

 

[Groupie_]

Dimma can take Peggy and Gale with him they are as much to blame, all 3 have disrespected this great club

we cant pay dimma out, dont have the funds. guess we are stuck with him

 

[Ned_Flanders]

so youre saying we DO NOT have the coin to pay him out so there is no chance he goes this year ? just dont have the funds ?

I'm saying if we spend $1m on this, plus the extras we are already spending for a new coaching and recruiting team, we will be a couple of million in debt AND we will pay the afl equalisation tax in 2017 (we are currently just below the threshold)

 

[Charlie Pannam]

we have more money than most clubs to pay out a coach

Maybe the Muppets that gave the contract extension the green light back in March can get out on Collins street traffic lights and start rattling the tins.

 

[Groupie_]

I'm saying if we spend $1m on this, plus the extras we are already spending for a new coaching and recruiting team, we will be a couple of million in debt AND we will pay the afl equalisation tax in 2017 (we are currently just below the threshold)

in this case debt will be a good thing

 

[Goldfrog]

I'm not here to bag him.
Done a great job getting us up and about but he has had his time.
Thanks Dimma but it's time, has been for a while.
My focus is on the type of coach we need.
Some coaches have an over inflated reputation by way of circumstance.
Ross Lyon is a great example of somebody who has walked into two clubs and just taken over what others had built up and failed. Yet I bet people would fall over themselves to have him coach us.
Not here. I think we need a coach who has had a taste of building something but then been denied by an early pull of the trigger yet hungers for more.
Guys like Knights and Ratten come to mind. They aren't damaged goods and still have much to prove.
They have both shown the maturity to take a step back to assistant coaching to improve their skills and capabilities.
I think their time is now these two blokes.
Completely understand those who disagree but that's my opinion.

I find it hard to disagree with anything you said. Therefore I won't. Pretty close to the mark, I reckon.

 

[I Rock]

I'm saying if we spend $1m on this, plus the extras we are already spending for a new coaching and recruiting team, we will be a couple of million in debt AND we will pay the afl equalisation tax in 2017 (we are currently just below the threshold)

Well now is as good as time as any for the Club to start to make Football decisions rather than penny pinching ones.

 

[TigerImposter]

Don't we run all these gymnasiums now?
We keep hearing about financial stability.
Even if things went pear shaped the afl will bale us out.
TV rights fund the afl they need 198 games a season.
Saints Dogs and lions have all sacked coaches with early pay outs.
If we are not financially stable after all the noise pen and Beg have been making then the review needs to be done with an audit into the books.
So we lose over 2 mil a year by keeping the Potato? Intelligent accounting methods. The Richmond way.

 

[Tiger4Ever]

Maybe the Muppets that gave the contract extension the green light back in March can get out on Collins street traffic lights and start rattling the tins.

Didn't the players have the losers of one of their own challenges out cleaning windscreens at the lights on Punt Rd/Swann St intersection? Rance or Newy from memory? That would be a good fit as well for "Penny". Two years of Dimma's salary to make up guys, that's a lot of squeegeeing!

 

[TigerImposter]

Someone better let him know that the curve is meant to be on an upward trend. Would love to know what his KPIs actually are, if indeed there are any?, we must have set the bar ridiculously low.

I believe they've set no bar and just allowed a walk through.

 

[Tiger4Ever]

I believe they've set no bar and just allowed a walk through.

Well I wish he would just keep walking!

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Well now is as good as time as any for the Club to start to make Football decisions rather than penny pinching ones.

Increase our annual cost by $2m a year (once afl tax and interest are added in) how long do you think we will solvent losing $1-2m every single year?

 

[Goldfrog]

It appears Hardwick got his iceberg metaphor confused and we are in fact the Titanic. What’s worse is him prancing around like the captain of the Costa Concordia.

The rabble against the Swans was the product of 7 years with Hardwick at the helm. Instead of building our list from 4 years ago at the start of our finals run it has deteriorated to a shambles. We are left looking for answers in B grade depth players.

The lack of development and future options was on display for all to see.

Do we wait another 2 years to see if Hardwick is capable of change and addressing his own failures as a coach? Why would we want to take that gamble after 7 years?

We can only go off the evidence available. And the definition of insanity is “to continue repeating the same thing expecting a different result”.

Can we fix all our list problems in one trade period? NO
Will sacking Hardwick fix all our problems overnight? NO
Will keeping Hardwick fix all our problems? NO

Will a new coach offer an opportunity for change? YES
Will a new coach address recruiting priorities, weekly selections, player positions, skill development, tackling and game plan differently? YES
Is that good for Richmond? YES

I want to see a Richmond team ferocious at the contest, tackling, shepherding and able to execute any game plan on the day with confidence, skill and precision.

Premierships and finals are one thing. But it’s a long season and as a Richmond supporter I at least expect to be able to enjoy most of the 22 games, win or lose. And I expect not to be embarrassed in any of them.

I don’t want the club to wait until mid 2017 to save face. I want Hardwick gone before the trade/draft period and the preseason, to inject fresh ideas and a new mind set for 2017 and the future. We need to be stronger after the next 2 years. A period while our current elite players will still be in their prime (for Lids it may even be too late). He won't be gone though and that's why the executive also gets criticised.

Calling for a new coach is not personal. It’s a business decision required to achieve on field success (not a financial one) and it’s not a knee jerk reaction. Patience and perseverance with Hardwick was provided and did not pay off.

Anyone expecting calls for Hardwick’s sacking to go away, is out of luck.

 

[Tiges1229]

Well when we are 3 - 8 next season then maybe just maybe the board might realise something should have been done about the coach at the end of the 2016 season.

 

[tigs2010]

we cant pay dimma out, dont have the funds. guess we are stuck with him

Stability in everything except finances

 

[tigs2010]

Increase our annual cost by $2m a year (once afl tax and interest are added in) how long do you think we will solvent losing $1-2m every single year?

Do you honestly think the AFL will tax us if it was going to kill the club?

 

[SunshineBoy]

Increase our annual cost by $2m a year (once afl tax and interest are added in) how long do you think we will solvent losing $1-2m every single year?

But we have a gun board we have sponsors lining up we are managing health centres

 

[SunshineBoy]

Well when we are 3 - 8 next season then maybe just maybe the board might realise something should have been done about the coach at the end of the 2016 season.

2 and 6

 

[I Rock]

Increase our annual cost by $2m a year (once afl tax and interest are added in) how long do you think we will solvent losing $1-2m every single year?

We could ask some of the other Clubs how they survived all those years of debt or alternatively and this is just a wild idea. Maybe just maybe the Richmond Board can do their jobs and find ways to increase revenue.....

I support the Richmond Football Club, you can wave your scarf at every time a black pen is used. However that doesn't interest me. I want Football to be the priority for a change.

 

[tigs2010]

We are investing in public dunnies and charging Wayne Carey & Boomer's missus a fee to use them.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Well when we are 3 - 8 next season then maybe just maybe the board might realise something should have been done about the coach at the end of the 2016 season.

its so difficult to predict how itll turn out though.

We might rise up and be back in finals.

We might finish bottom 4

who knows?

 

[I Rock]

But we have a gun board we have sponsors lining up we are managing health centres

It's a amazing, sticks up for the Board saying they are doing a great job. Then argues that the Board can't fire the Coach because they haven't made any money.

 

[duzzy]