Does Bode Survive?

[WaynesWorld19]

Theres been a lrge cry of support for Bodes re-inclusion in the side.

Did he do enough to be retained in next weeks side.

Did he do enough to be retained on the list at the seasons end?

Personally I think 2 bad years out of 3 will see the demise of Bode.

Poor disposal, no pace, really a midfielder only, means he has to be at the top of his game to get a gurnsey.
Hasn't done enough, and the AFC will be targeting the midfield for regeneration.

 

[spindoctor]

He was OK, went in hard for it, but yes his disposal was poor.

He is a good in-and-under midfielder, and if he is able to get a handball out of packs he still has his use.

There are a lot of AFL midfielders running around with poor disposal, Bode is just another.

To me he offers a lot as a crumber in the forward line though, as he is good on the snap at goal and is able to crumb well.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by spindoctor
He was OK, went in hard for it, but yes his disposal was poor.

He is a good in-and-under midfielder, and if he is able to get a handball out of packs he still has his use.

There are a lot of AFL midfielders running around with poor disposal, Bode is just another.

To me he offers a lot as a crumber in the forward line though, as he is good on the snap at goal and is able to crumb well.

Problem as a crumber is he always goes to ground - how can you be an effective crumber if you can't hold your feet????

Ayres keeps refering to the poor disposal to the forwrds.
Bode is one of the culprits so we can't expect much grace unless
Wallace is appointed and Bode becomes the new liberatore

 

[maccas_no1]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Problem as a crumber is he always goes to ground - how can you be an effective crumber if you can't hold your feet????

Ayres keeps refering to the poor disposal to the forwrds.
Bode is one of the culprits so we can't expect much grace unless
Wallace is appointed and Bode becomes the new liberatore

Bode will have to grow his fingernails long then

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Theres been a lrge cry of support for Bodes re-inclusion in the side.

He's crap - cannot believe we gave up a first round pick for Port's sloppy seconds.

 

[MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl]

I actually feel really sorry for Matthew Bode.

He is always the first one droped when he has a bad game, where as others seem to be like cats with 9 lives. When he does get a game he gets the last 5 minutes of the quarter. Bodey has shown that he is a terrific little guy who always gives 100% to every contest. In my opinion he should be given more time on the ground. If he can get his confidence up then he can show us just how good he is.

I sure hope he gets another game this week.

k
xx

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
I actually feel really sorry for Matthew Bode.

Matthew Bode lives and dies by his own sword.

The club gave up a shedload for him - our 2000 first-round pick to Port (Shaun Burgoyne) and after the injury nightmare in his first year in which he only played one game, he came out, went gangbusters and had a sensational 2002.

But since that win over North at the Telstra Dome last year he's been absolutely woeful. Is it his skill? Is it his attitude? Is it his aptitude? Who knows.

But he deserves no pity from the average fan who is now suffering because he's clearly not the player we traded so very much for.

In fact I am sick and tired of all the excuses made for players who are woefully underperforming of late - there's a reason we're 3-9 right now and players like Bode, Ladhams and others are a (non?)-contributing factor. He's on a damn good wicket as an employee of the football club we pour our cash into and he's been giving back nothing for over a year now.

 

[MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl]

gee Dyertribe it seems we have differing opinions on this one.

k
xx

 

[kirky]

Doesn't run in a straight line, always needs to kick around his body. Honest? Yes. Will he survive? Probably, why? I reckon we already have 8 that will will be delisted come years end (including retirements) - retirements - Carey, Burns, Smart, Clarke and possibly Stevens then the delistings - Skipworth, Gallagher, Perrie. I don't think they will want to have too many other changes in the one year given we probably won't have any retirements for a few years after that.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by dyertribe
Matthew Bode lives and dies by his own sword.

The club gave up a shedload for him - our 2000 first-round pick to Port (Shaun Burgoyne) and after the injury nightmare in his first year in which he only played one game, he came out, went gangbusters and had a sensational 2002.

But since that win over North at the Telstra Dome last year he's been absolutely woeful. Is it his skill? Is it his attitude? Is it his aptitude? Who knows.

But he deserves no pity from the average fan who is now suffering because he's clearly not the player we traded so very much for.

In fact I am sick and tired of all the excuses made for players who are woefully underperforming of late - there's a reason we're 3-9 right now and players like Bode, Ladhams and others are a (non?)-contributing factor. He's on a damn good wicket as an employee of the football club we pour our cash into and he's been giving back nothing for over a year now.

Gotta say I agree completely.
When your 3-9 for the season you can't keep making excuses for players.
If we're going to climb the ladder again tough decisions must be made.

Mediocrity cannot and must not be excused or accepted anymore!!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by kirky
Doesn't run in a straight line, always needs to kick around his body. Honest? Yes. Will he survive? Probably, why? I reckon we already have 8 that will will be delisted come years end (including retirements) - retirements - Carey, Burns, Smart, Clarke and possibly Stevens then the delistings - Skipworth, Gallagher, Perrie. I don't think they will want to have too many other changes in the one year given we probably won't have any retirements for a few years after that.

Perrie I think is on a two year contract.
Yes I wouldn't be surprised if Stevens hangs up the boots, which makes Perries retention vital.

Gallagher started the season well, has fallen out of favour again, and will fight for his spot on the list in the 2nd half of the season.

But you can see 6-7 vacancies being created on the list at least.

 

[Port01]

Re: Re: Does Bode Survive?

Originally posted by dyertribe
He's crap - cannot believe we gave up a first round pick for Port's sloppy seconds.

Well, it was the pick you got for Rehn. I think you had pick 7 in the same draft so trading one off probably wasn't so bad. Picking Angwin with the other makes it 10 times worse though. You got another of our picks + Bode.

Hawthorn's first round picks have been good to us. S Burgoyne and Salopek both came from them.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Re: Re: Re: Does Bode Survive?

Originally posted by Port01
Well, it was the pick you got for Rehn. I think you had pick 7 in the same draft so trading one off probably wasn't so bad. Picking Angwin with the other makes it 10 times worse though. You got another of our picks + Bode.

Hawthorn's first round picks have been good to us. S Burgoyne and Salopek both came from them.

You didn't have to tell us that

 

[tribey]

Re: Re: Re: Does Bode Survive?

Originally posted by Port01
Well, it was the pick you got for Rehn. I think you had pick 7 in the same draft so trading one off probably wasn't so bad. Picking Angwin with the other makes it 10 times worse though. You got another of our picks + Bode.

Yeah I knew there was more to it - but to give so much for Bode was ridiculous - was never worth that much based on his form with you lot.

 

[Port01]

Well I checked up and Matthew Smith was part of the deal also (pick 48). Dunno if that helps. You also traded pick 23 (Drew Petrie) for Evan Hewitt. Man, that trading really sucked. (Yes I know we have our horror stories as well, all too well).

 

[macca23]

Bodey has to survive.

We lost hardness in the midfield with the loss of Johnson, and even more with the retirement of Bickley. bode is no start at the moment, but he does at least get in and under.

Dyertribe is right though. We aren't getting the value for what we gave up.

 

[DaveW]

So how many minutes did Bode get on the ground this week?

 

[maccas_no1]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
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Mediocrity cannot and must not be excused or accepted anymore!!!

Spot On some people on this board beleive if you have a go at the coach or the players then that is wrong, or even if you think what Ayres did Saturday night and to try and win a game, the only thing you can come up with is swap the back and forwardlines around, then you are a bandwagoner and they think you are jumping off True and loyal supporters are there through thick and thin but they will also not stand for mediocrity and there is far too much mediocrity at the AFC

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by macca23


We lost hardness in the midfield with the loss of Johnson, and even more with the retirement of Bickley. bode is no start at the moment, but he does at least get in and under.

Dyertribe is right though. We aren't getting the value for what we gave up.

Exactly, we have a desperate need in the midfield having lost MB and KJ. A need for hardness. We're 3-9 and 2nd last.

Yet Bode still can't get a game, or gametime?
I think his goose is cooked.

 

[Stiffy_18]

To all those Matthew Bode baggers out there mark my word he will NOT be delisted and nor should he. He is our only in and under midfielder who has been screwed around and crusified a hell of a lot more than other player who deserve just as much baking.

I am predicting that players like Bode will get more game time in the 2nd half of the year to prove their worth. If Gary Ayres stays, Bode will be traded. If we get new coach Bode might stay. He still might be traded but he will NOT be delisted.

Yes I agree we gave up a lot for him and yes we got robbed. We are not getting what we paid for but then again you can't show us anything if you get 20 minutes a game. When he gets his opportunity Bode generally does well. His confidence is down and I am really not surprised. No excuses just the facts.

 

[noddy]

Originally posted by Wayne's-World
Exactly, we have a desperate need in the midfield having lost MB and KJ. A need for hardness. We're 3-9 and 2nd last.

Yet Bode still can't get a game, or gametime?
I think his goose is cooked.

Have been a fan of Bodey from day 1 but to be honest his last 2 years have been disappointing, his main strengths were as you guys are saying the in & under & giving it out but for some reason he can't seem to dish the ball out when he is under.

Maybe he thinks he deserves a permanent spot in the mid-field & should be treated along the same lines as Roo & Macca ?? what ever is up with him if he could get back to what he does best on the footy field & maybe work on improving his disposal then i wouldn't look at delisting him.

Ball is now in his court in how his future develops & the same can be said of Ladhams, Doughty, Skipworth, Perrie, Welsh & even Kriss Massie should have a re-think on how he plays the game.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
To all those Matthew Bode baggers out there mark my word he will NOT be delisted and nor should he. He is our only in and under midfielder who has been screwed around and crusified a hell of a lot more than other player who deserve just as much baking.

I am predicting that players like Bode will get more game time in the 2nd half of the year to prove their worth. If Gary Ayres stays, Bode will be traded. If we get new coach Bode might stay. He still might be traded but he will NOT be delisted.

Yes I agree we gave up a lot for him and yes we got robbed. We are not getting what we paid for but then again you can't show us anything if you get 20 minutes a game. When he gets his opportunity Bode generally does well. His confidence is down and I am really not surprised. No excuses just the facts.

Stiffy, I wouldn't be so certain that Bode will stay on AFC's list in 2005. We do have other in & under players such as Stinger, but agree we lack tough nuts around the pack. Bode's kicking has been average for a long time (except for kicking at goals) & he has not been able to rectify this flaw. I would try & trade him & draft a talented youngster.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Stiffy, I wouldn't be so certain that Bode will stay on AFC's list in 2005. We do have other in & under players such as Stinger, but agree we lack tough nuts around the pack. Bode's kicking has been average for a long time (except for kicking at goals) & he has not been able to rectify this flaw. I would try & trade him & draft a talented youngster.

Adelaide has promised a clean out, and some tough decisions.

Mediocrity cannot be accepted, and Bode may surpisingly find himself a casualty of the splurge.

 

[tribey]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
To all those Matthew Bode baggers out there mark my word he will NOT be delisted and nor should he.

He's been rubbish for a good year and a half now. He deserves to be criticised. He won't be delisted but we'll get bugger all for him by way of trade - a third round pick at best.

So if we do keep him and we see more of the same we've got nothing but an overpaid lemon on our hands.