Apparently the Bulldogs would like Rawlings. We could end up with Brown afterall.
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If this is accurate, and the Bulldogs are after Rawlings, we could seriously end up with egg on our faces.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if the Bulldogs wanted Rawlings, could they not just pick him up in the draft as an uncontracted player. They could do this while still negotiating with other teams for Brown.
Of course, this is assumptive on the grounds that Hawthorn don't find a suitable deal with another club regarding Rawlings - but I think it's something we need to keep in mind..
Remember McPharlin - he was gone - and we essentially got nothing for him.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but if the Bulldogs wanted Rawlings, could they not just pick him up in the draft as an uncontracted player. They could do this while still negotiating with other teams for Brown.
Of course, this is assumptive on the grounds that Hawthorn don't find a suitable deal with another club regarding Rawlings - but I think it's something we need to keep in mind..
Remember McPharlin - he was gone - and we essentially got nothing for him.
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Yes you are right the Bulldogs could just pick up Rawlings and leave us with SFA. But hopefully Hawthorn can negotiate Rawlings and Brown if the Bulldogs are interested. We just have to keep our figures crossed.
Brown has expressed interest at being traded to Hawthorn. Most of the other clubs interested have no salary cap room.
Brown has expressed interest at being traded to Hawthorn. Most of the other clubs interested have no salary cap room.
The Dogs don't want to lose Brown for nothing so the straight swap will occur if Richmond and the Roos don't come up with suitable offers for each player. If Brown is traded to Richmond then Hawthorn will go ahead and trade Rawlings.
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It is gaining momentum.. This just up on the AFL site... Note the quote by John Hook at the bottom..
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Brown-for-Rawlings swap still a chance
12:18:55 PM Tue 14 October, 2003
PaulGough
afl.com.au
A direct swap between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn for Jade Rawlings and Nathan Brown respectively is still a possibility if Richmond and the Kangaroos fail to come up with suitable trades for the star pair.
Rawlings and Brown, along with Port’s Nick Stevens and Essendon’s Dean Solomon, are the big fish in this year’s trading period after declaring they want to leave the Hawks and the Bulldogs respectively.
Brown has already declared he wants to join Richmond while Rawlings wants to move to the Kangaroos, where he would be able to continue his AFL career alongside his younger brother Brady.
However the Tigers have been unable to satisfy the Bulldogs’ trade demands to date while the Kangaroos have already been accused by the Hawks of trying to get Rawlings – one of the most improved key position players in the competition – for a bargain.
Both the Bulldogs and the Hawks have demanded a “quality player” in exchange for Rawlings and Brown – something which they believe the Tigers and the Kangaroos are in short supply of.
However each club would certainly see Rawlings and Brown respectively as a quality replacement for each other, given the ability of both players to kick goals on a regular basis.
While a direct swap for Rawlings and Brown still appears a long-shot - given their stated preferences to play elsewhere - Western Bulldogs’ football manager Stephen Newport has refused to rule it out.
“Maybe by the end of the week who knows?” he said when asked if that direct swap was still a possibility.
“It’s really going to get down to what the best deal is on the table.”
“We’ll weigh that up and obviously the players have got to weigh that up as well – they have got to be involved in that as well.”
The Tigers have believed to have so far offered only back-up ruckman Ray Hall as a swap for either Brown or Essendon’s Dean Solomon – an offer that will not satisfy either the Bulldogs or Essendon.
“When you are losing a quality player, you want to replace him with a quality player so we want that as a minimum and draft picks as well,” Newport said when asked what the Bulldogs would accept for Brown.
However the Tigers’ problem is they have a shortage of players other clubs are interested in – given they have declared their big three of Matthew Richardson, Brad Ottens and Mark Coughlan are not available to be traded.
The Kangaroos are in a similar position with Hawthorn with their reported offer of goalsneak Corey Jones for Rawlings not interesting the Hawks.
Hawthorn football manager John Hook said the Hawks would see “what the alternatives are” if the Roos cannot come up with a suitable trade for Rawlings.
And like the Bulldogs with Brown, Hook said the Hawks priority was to secure a player capable of replacing Rawlings in the side.
And with the Roos unable to offer any player that fits that bill, it leaves the door open for Brown to come to the Hawks as a direct swap for Rawlings – if the Hawks’ big man can be convinced to join the battling Bulldogs.
“I don’t want to be locked into anything but of course Brown is a good player, no doubt about that,” Hook said when asked if a direct swap for Rawlings was still a possibility.
“We are looking for a bloke who can make an impact in our side because that’s what Rawlings did – he came third in our best and fairest this year.”
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Brown-for-Rawlings swap still a chance
12:18:55 PM Tue 14 October, 2003
PaulGough
afl.com.au
A direct swap between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn for Jade Rawlings and Nathan Brown respectively is still a possibility if Richmond and the Kangaroos fail to come up with suitable trades for the star pair.
Rawlings and Brown, along with Port’s Nick Stevens and Essendon’s Dean Solomon, are the big fish in this year’s trading period after declaring they want to leave the Hawks and the Bulldogs respectively.
Brown has already declared he wants to join Richmond while Rawlings wants to move to the Kangaroos, where he would be able to continue his AFL career alongside his younger brother Brady.
However the Tigers have been unable to satisfy the Bulldogs’ trade demands to date while the Kangaroos have already been accused by the Hawks of trying to get Rawlings – one of the most improved key position players in the competition – for a bargain.
Both the Bulldogs and the Hawks have demanded a “quality player” in exchange for Rawlings and Brown – something which they believe the Tigers and the Kangaroos are in short supply of.
However each club would certainly see Rawlings and Brown respectively as a quality replacement for each other, given the ability of both players to kick goals on a regular basis.
While a direct swap for Rawlings and Brown still appears a long-shot - given their stated preferences to play elsewhere - Western Bulldogs’ football manager Stephen Newport has refused to rule it out.
“Maybe by the end of the week who knows?” he said when asked if that direct swap was still a possibility.
“It’s really going to get down to what the best deal is on the table.”
“We’ll weigh that up and obviously the players have got to weigh that up as well – they have got to be involved in that as well.”
The Tigers have believed to have so far offered only back-up ruckman Ray Hall as a swap for either Brown or Essendon’s Dean Solomon – an offer that will not satisfy either the Bulldogs or Essendon.
“When you are losing a quality player, you want to replace him with a quality player so we want that as a minimum and draft picks as well,” Newport said when asked what the Bulldogs would accept for Brown.
However the Tigers’ problem is they have a shortage of players other clubs are interested in – given they have declared their big three of Matthew Richardson, Brad Ottens and Mark Coughlan are not available to be traded.
The Kangaroos are in a similar position with Hawthorn with their reported offer of goalsneak Corey Jones for Rawlings not interesting the Hawks.
Hawthorn football manager John Hook said the Hawks would see “what the alternatives are” if the Roos cannot come up with a suitable trade for Rawlings.
And like the Bulldogs with Brown, Hook said the Hawks priority was to secure a player capable of replacing Rawlings in the side.
And with the Roos unable to offer any player that fits that bill, it leaves the door open for Brown to come to the Hawks as a direct swap for Rawlings – if the Hawks’ big man can be convinced to join the battling Bulldogs.
“I don’t want to be locked into anything but of course Brown is a good player, no doubt about that,” Hook said when asked if a direct swap for Rawlings was still a possibility.
“We are looking for a bloke who can make an impact in our side because that’s what Rawlings did – he came third in our best and fairest this year.”
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Now that Brown has gone (we were screwed, greedy ****) we are offering pick 6 for Jade
SOLD but thats just my opinion i mean if we are getting Croad and Bolton etc we are pretty much set with talls take the pick get a decent kid for the future.
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If you end up getting Bolton it will have meant Jade's gone to Arden St, so I'm not sure how you could trade him to the Doggies too
Scenario's left.
1. We trade for pick 5 or 6 *hell maybe even 7* to either Dee's, Dog's or Cat's.
2. We trade for picks 9 and 24 to Roo's.
3. Rawlings walks and we get nothing.
4. Rawlings gets traded last minute as our bluff is called and we take a 'best offer left' be it pick 88 and Franchinna (or something akin to that) for him.
5. Straight swap, Stevens for Rawlings and everyone is stunned!!
That's it.
What happens after that is the worry. Do we then
a) *please God no* on-trade any pick for Bolton/Jacobs?
b) *letithappenletithappenletithappen* keep the pick/s and really try and get something that may become top shelf talent into the club.
c) *wouldnt surprise* trade Stevens to the Woods for McCoughup and Kinnear!?!
2pm seems so far away..
1. We trade for pick 5 or 6 *hell maybe even 7* to either Dee's, Dog's or Cat's.
2. We trade for picks 9 and 24 to Roo's.
3. Rawlings walks and we get nothing.
4. Rawlings gets traded last minute as our bluff is called and we take a 'best offer left' be it pick 88 and Franchinna (or something akin to that) for him.
5. Straight swap, Stevens for Rawlings and everyone is stunned!!
That's it.
What happens after that is the worry. Do we then
a) *please God no* on-trade any pick for Bolton/Jacobs?
b) *letithappenletithappenletithappen* keep the pick/s and really try and get something that may become top shelf talent into the club.
c) *wouldnt surprise* trade Stevens to the Woods for McCoughup and Kinnear!?!
2pm seems so far away..
I just wish we would hurry up and trade him.
