Draft Lotto

[Portmanteau]

Haven't seen it on any official site yet, but another board reports:

1 - Orlando
2 - LA Clippers
3 - Chicago
4 - Charlotte
5 - Washington
6 - Atlanta
7 - Phoenix
8 - Toronto
9 - Philly
10 - Cleveland
11 - Golden State
12 - Seattle
13 - Portland
14 - Utah

 

[Portmanteau]

Results are official.

http://www.nba.com/features/lottery2004_index.html

 

[Portmanteau]

My immediate reaction is that Orlando will take Emeka Okafor.

The Clips could take anyone, but most likely Dwight Howard or Shaun Livingston. This is the pick that could most throw a spanner in the works.

Chicago will definitely take Luol Deng. Write it down.

Charlotte are heavily rumoured to be trading down for Josh Childress. Will most likely take Livingston, and trade him.

Washington will probably go best available big man in Andris Biedrins.

Atlanta's pick will probably be one of Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, Martynas Andriuskevicius or Josh Smith. Possibly Josh Childress if they're involved in the Charlotte deal.

Phoenix has promised Martynas Andriuskevicius that they will select him if he falls to them. Otherwise, best available player and if they don't fill a need, draft-day deal.

Toronto will get lucky and have either Ben Gordon or Devin Harris slip to them, in all likelihood.

Philadelphia needs Andre Igoudala.

Cleveland could easily go with Josh Smith to be the Pip to LBJ's MJ.

After that, anyone is fair game.

 

[jerry springer]

Atlanta got shafted again.poor bastards

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Watch Jerry West pull off a trade for one of picks 2, 6, or 7.

He will either land Elton Brand or one of those draft picks.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Originally posted by Bresh

Chicago will definitely take Luol Deng. Write it down.

Deng or Ray Borner.

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

So many possiblities... most likely the Bulls get Deng because I see Clippers and Hawks doing a deal where Clippers get # 6 and something, and the Hawks get Howard. But if clippers dont trade the pick they will definately take Deng IMO. They will let Q walk because he will get around 6-7 mil from the Hawks or Denver and the clippers are cheap. They re-signed Brand and Maggette and Sterling wont add a 3rd big contract. Deng is very marketable for the clipper$.

How are the Grizzlies going to get Brand, the clippers if they trade Brand will just start Wilcox and they would most likely want a SF/PG for Brand...unless you trade Brand for Gasol, and Gasol is better than Brand anyway.

I cant see you guys trading up with the Bulls because only one o your players are worth the # 3 pick, Atlanta want young players with long rookie deals, Washington are basically the same as the Grizzlies where they are stocked at SG/SF/PF.

I dont see a deal as the Grizzlies dont have a first rd pick.

Maybe you can show me some scenarios because I just dont see one.

Personally I think the Grizzlies have to trade 2 of your swingman for some role players because splitting 48 mins amongst 11-12 players every night wont cut it when you hit the playoffs.


MOCK DRAFT
1. Orlando - Okafor
2. Clippers - Howard - Trade with Atlanta
3. Bulls - Deng
4. Bobcats - Livington
5. Wizards - Andriuskevicius
6. Hawks - Harris ( To Clippers)
7. Pheonix - Biedrins
8. Toronto - Gordon
9. Philly - Iguodala
10. Cleveland - Childress
11. Golden State - Perovic
12. Seattle - Araujo
13. Portland - Podkolzine
14. Utah - Luke Jackson

Jackson is going to be a steal anywhere from 12- 17... hes a great player, will have a similar impact in his rookie year to someone like Kirk Hinrich.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony

How are the Grizzlies going to get Brand, the clippers if they trade Brand will just start Wilcox and they would most likely want a SF/PG for Brand...unless you trade Brand for Gasol, and Gasol is better than Brand anyway.

We have a PG and SF who we are willing to deal.

The Grizzlies have great depth, so unlike many teams, can afford to lose 2-3 quality players in such a deal.

Most teams are only offering up guys on mega contracts, something which Donald Sterling is never going to take on.

Jerry West will find a way to get what he wants, he always does.

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

Whos your point guard?? Jason Williams? Why would you want to deal him for. Unless you think Earl Watson and Troy Bell can get you a star.
Bonzi Wells, Mike Miller and Shane Battier if you trade one of them you could possibly get a pick 11-15, Bonzi has baggage, Miller is always injured and Battier is a decent role player.

I dont think the Clippers are going to give up their best player just because they are dealing with Jerry West.

Brand is overrated anyway, hes a bad defender (hes too slow so many quicker forwards blow pass him for easy lay ups), hes undersized, isnt a # 1 option on offence, overpaid.

 

[Borgsta]

Originally posted by jerry springer
Atlanta got shafted again.poor bastards

how exactly did they get shafted. They didnt move in the draft order.

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

I thought the NBA was going to rig it so Orlando would get Okafor and Atlanta get Howard.

I still think Atlanta will get Howard.. but you gotta feel for the Hawks..apart from the Bulls, they have had the worst luck in the past 5 years regarding the draft.

Its a good draft anyway.

I think the college players are great this year, certain studs will be Emeka, Deng, Iguodala, Gordon, Harris and even Childress and Jameer Nelson will have good NBA careers.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Well, looks like Atlanta paid the price for being competitive.

Not even in the top three picks, while Orlando, the Clippers and even Chicago have far, far superior talent.

Them's the breaks I guess, would have liked to see Dwight go to Atlanta and build his legacy like Lebron is in his home state.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony

I dont think the Clippers are going to give up their best player just because they are dealing with Jerry West.

Because that's what i said............

 

[Thewlis Dish]

My mock as it stands, although I think it's clear there'll be changes in the draft order.

1. Emeka Okafor - Magic
2. Dwight Howard - Clippers
3. Luol Deng - Chicago
4. Shaun Livingston- Charlotte
5. Josh Smith - Washington
6. Andris Biedrins - Atlanta
7. Martynas Andriuskevicius - Phoenix
8. Devin Harris - Toronto
9. Andre Iguodala - Philadelphia
10. Ben Gordon - Cleveland
11. Josh Childress - Golden State
12. Kosta Perovic - Seattle
13. Kirk Snyder - Portland
14. Rafael Araujo - Utah

Golden State's pick is an interesting one. They need a point, but that's too high for Telfair - I see them either trading up for Devin Harris or down for Telfair. Doubt they'll take Childress, but I don't think he'll drop below that pick as it stands.

I think the Clips will trade too, whether that be out of the lottery or down (Atlanta with two first rounders comes to mind).

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

I like Kirk Snyder and I think if he has good workouts he might sneak into the lottery.

Another player whos stock will go up is Gomes, also if Duhon can have good workouts I think anyone picking from 25-29 might just pick safely and take him, hes a good floor general. Hes the type of guy that I think if you give him a guarneteed deal he will excel, but if hes under pressure being a second rounder he might just not get the most out of himself.

The second round looks brilliant this season, so many good college players will be pushed out of the first round thanks to internationals and high schoolers which makes it as good of a second round as ever i'd say.

 

[Booze Hound]

I think the Clipps will trade down or trade Wilcox, maybe both.

I think they'll end up with a pg, either throught the draft or FA.

 

[Hawka Deano]

Does anyone know what Pavel Podkylzine is like. I know he is 7'3 or 7'4, but is he as co-ordinated as Gheorge Murasean? Where does everyone think he will go? The 76ers could use a centre!

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

Pavel last year came to the USA as a nobody, and had 1 amazing workout. He was hitting jumpers and handling like a guard and he is 7'3, 7'4... they even considered him a lock to go #4 to Toronto... then he puleld out to everyones surprise and said he will stay in europe and be drafted #1 overall in the 04 draft.

Well now he isnt even considered a lottery pick.

Hes basically a big man that doesnt play like a big man, has no big man moves.

Big time project, but hes got talent.

 

[Portmanteau]

Originally posted by Hawka Deano
Does anyone know what Pavel Podkylzine is like. I know he is 7'3 or 7'4, but is he as co-ordinated as Gheorge Murasean? Where does everyone think he will go? The 76ers could use a centre!

I would think they are quite content with Samuel Dalembert.

 

[jod23]

Would love Deng but I thought he didnt even nominate for the draft? I heard he wanted to stay another year in college, obviously I was wrong which is good.

 

[jerry springer]

Originally posted by Borgsta
how exactly did they get shafted. They didnt move in the draft order.

i realise that.They just never sem to get any luck whatsoever when it comes to the draft(or anything basketball-related for that matter)

 

[Portmanteau]

Originally posted by jerry springer
i realise that.They just never sem to get any luck whatsoever when it comes to the draft(or anything basketball-related for that matter)

We saw at the end of last season that they are willing to create their own luck. Nothing like getting a winning attitude amongst the team.

 

[Borgsta]

What ever happened to the GM in Atlanta? The one that guaranteed playoffs last season.

 

[jerry springer]

Originally posted by Borgsta
What ever happened to the GM in Atlanta? The one that guaranteed playoffs last season.

i hear he is headed to richmond...

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony
also if Duhon can have good workouts I think anyone picking from 25-29 might just pick safely and take him, hes a good floor general. Hes the type of guy that I think if you give him a guarneteed deal he will excel, but if hes under pressure being a second rounder he might just not get the most out of himself.

I reckon Dallas. Got a couple of steals in Howard and Daniels last season, and with uncertainty over Nash's future, a tough, experienced floor leader like Duhon could be a godsend. I rated him the best point in college ball last year (with Jameer) based on what his role was, and I think he'll make an excellent pro.