Draft mechanisms under review

[go_the_dockers]

Absolutely. That recent deal signing the GF in secret to the MCG for 50 years was peak AFL corruption. It isn't related to the theme of draft mechanisms but it is utter corruption.

Father son?
Nga favouring vic teams?
Percentage of home grown talent on list?
Percentage of home grown talent in draft?

 

[Caligo]

The entire first round should be open and totally clean. No compensation picks, academy, father son, assistance picks in the first round.

If you are good enough to be taken there, then you should be available to everyone.

That includes my own team. The whole system has become ridiculously compromised.

It would be a good solution. Sadly I think it won't ever happen. The best we can hope for is some balancing with stuff like the discounts.

 

[Caligo]

Yeah I didn't look into it, so because we develop better we get scrutinised more!

No. The opposite. Taking a pick 50 and making him an AA is elite development. Taking a pick 2 and making him ok is not.

It is the top 5 draft picks that make all the drama. As you saw this year with mckay compo.

 

[Swanssince91]

No. The opposite. Taking a pick 50 and making him an AA is elite development. Taking a pick 2 and making him ok is not.

It is the top 5 draft picks that make all the drama. As you saw this year with mckay compo.

Errol Gulden nearly won a brownlow from pick 33

 

[Caligo]

Errol Gulden nearly won a brownlow from pick 33

Now that is elite development.

 

[Freomaniac]

Omeara, Mitchell and Chad Wingard have put you where you are

that might be true. People will always talk about West coast eagles and the Tim Kelly trade.

 

[Swanssince91]

It would be a good solution. Sadly I think it won't ever happen. The best we can hope for is some balancing with stuff like the discounts.

I would like to go to state drafting with free agency
Interstate clubs can recruit players that miss state drafts, they would essentially be free agents

 

[Swanssince91]

that might be true. People will always talk about West coast eagles and the Tim Kelly trade.

2017 trade period
HAWTHORN

Who Left: Luke Hodge (Brisbane Lions)

Who Arrived: Jarman Impey (Port Adelaide)

Draft Picks: 43, 68, 75, 81, 99

Champion Data says: “They put themselves in a hole last year with that trade they did with St Kilda. They got Picks 10 and 68 and they gave up Picks 7, 23 and 36. Under the draft points system that’s about 1500 points worth of value to the Hawks and about 3000 points of value to the Saints. The Hawks cost themselves a crack at this year’s draft.”

Chris Pelchen says: “I’m still disappointed with what they did and what they didn’t do. They’ve had one top-20 pick since 2010. What I think they needed to do this year, they needed to be aggressive by bringing in extra draft picks. They’ve ended up with one pick inside 50 and it’s just not good enough. They’re going to put themselves under enormous pressure by the end of this decade with a lack of quality juniors.”

Grade: C-

 

[Caligo]

I would like to go to state drafting with free agency
Interstate clubs can recruit players that miss state drafts, they would essentially be free agents

I feel like that would be very imbalanced. A few good WA years and you would have a decade of WA flags.

 

[Swanssince91]

I feel like that would be very imbalanced. A few good WA years and you would have a decade of WA flags.

All players are UFA at 25 or 7 years.
Maybe you could have the first pick must be from your state, then the draft begins

 

[Caligo]

2017 trade period
HAWTHORN

Who Left: Luke Hodge (Brisbane Lions)

Who Arrived: Jarman Impey (Port Adelaide)

Draft Picks: 43, 68, 75, 81, 99

Champion Data says: “They put themselves in a hole last year with that trade they did with St Kilda. They got Picks 10 and 68 and they gave up Picks 7, 23 and 36. Under the draft points system that’s about 1500 points worth of value to the Hawks and about 3000 points of value to the Saints. The Hawks cost themselves a crack at this year’s draft.”

Chris Pelchen says: “I’m still disappointed with what they did and what they didn’t do. They’ve had one top-20 pick since 2010. What I think they needed to do this year, they needed to be aggressive by bringing in extra draft picks. They’ve ended up with one pick inside 50 and it’s just not good enough. They’re going to put themselves under enormous pressure by the end of this decade with a lack of quality juniors.”

Grade: C-

The very next year we were top 4. What lunacy is this?

 

[Swanssince91]

The very next year we were top 4. What lunacy is this?

But it hurts you now, you had no juniors

 

[Caligo]

All players are UFA at 25 or 7 years.
Maybe you could have the first pick must be from your state, then the draft begins

The level of imbalance of that system would be bonkers. The team who comes 18th might end up with the 15th best player, or worse.

 

[Swanssince91]

The level of imbalance of that system would be bonkers. The team who comes 18th might end up with the 15th best player, or worse.

Imagine the efforts clubs would go to to develop their own states

 

[Freomaniac]

All players are UFA at 25 or 7 years.
Maybe you could have the first pick must be from your state, then the draft begins

I would change the Rules and have restricted free agency go from 8 seasons to 6 or even 5 seasons.

you dont get to choose what club you want to be drafted. But if you are 18 or 19, you spend 6 seasons at a club, you are 24 or 25 years old. if your side doesnt play finals for 6 seasons, then you have the right to leave as you stuck it out for 6 years.

 

[Swanssince91]

I would change the Rules and have restricted free agency go from 8 seasons to 6 or even 5 seasons.

you dont get to choose what club you want to be drafted. But if you are 18 or 19, you spend 6 seasons at a club, you are 24 or 25 years old. if your side doesnt play finals for 6 seasons, then you have the right to leave as you stuck it out for 6 years.

Not big on the nba but is it similar?

 

[sr36]

Father son?
Nga favouring vic teams?
Percentage of home grown talent on list?
Percentage of home grown talent in draft?

Should the AFL shift a heap of Vic families to WA and SA to sort out the biased population distribution in Australia?

 

[Pies No 1]

Not big on the nba but is it similar?

Not sure if having a system like the NBA is a good thing..

I would change the Rules and have restricted free agency go from 8 seasons to 6 or even 5 seasons.

you dont get to choose what club you want to be drafted. But if you are 18 or 19, you spend 6 seasons at a club, you are 24 or 25 years old. if your side doesnt play finals for 6 seasons, then you have the right to leave as you stuck it out for 6 years.

If you follow the NBA, you might come to the conclusion that this may not be the best idea. You are going to be moving to a player mindset of playing for a premiership for themselves, and not for the club.

In the NBA players move teams to win rings, and it creates imbalance.. because you have essentially super teams full of superstars just wanting to win medals.

The reason this system is bad for the AFL is that players will swarm to the BIG clubs, and particularly the ones on top.. and these teams will remain on top, with teams like GC, GWS, North, etc... never being able to retain players.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Should the AFL shift a heap of Vic families to WA and SA to sort out the biased population distribution in Australia?

When they introduce the nga for vic teams, they should ensure wa and sa teams get it as well , in the same year for all of wa and sa.

 

[Caligo]

When they introduce the nga for vic teams, they should ensure wa and sa teams get it as well , in the same year for all of wa and sa.

I get what you mean, but you are also one of the few clubs to have gotten a top 10 NGA, and nobody ever will again. Not sure NGA is something Fremantle ever get to complain about.

My club has a really promising NGA this year, we won't get him.

 

[sr36]

When they introduce the nga for vic teams, they should ensure wa and sa teams get it as well , in the same year for all of wa and sa.

Yeah they should have.

 

[go_the_dockers]

I get what you mean, but you are also one of the few clubs to have gotten a top 10 NGA, and nobody ever will again. Not sure NGA is something Fremantle ever get to complain about.

My club has a really promising NGA this year, we won't get him.

And you get another father son this year.

Percentage of home grown talent is a big advantage for vic teams. We are always fighting against them heading home for 80 percent of draftees

 

[go_the_dockers]

Yeah they should have.

This is my big frustration. This and a few others should be easy decisions, but they find a way to favour the vic clubs more

 

[Caligo]

And you get another father son this year.

Percentage of home grown talent is a big advantage for vic teams. We are always fighting against them heading home for 80 percent of draftees

We do. Maybe for the first time in history we might get a 1st round f/s. I doubt it though.

A top 10 though? No chance.

You say you are fighting against players heading home, but haven't most of your lost players been Westerners?

 

[go_the_dockers]

We do. Maybe for the first time in history we might get a 1st round f/s. I doubt it though.

A top 10 though? No chance.

We have had one father son in our history. I wouldn't complain.