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Originally posted by zanzi
Anyway, since when has size mattered d/head Dasler? Isn’t the aim of the game to get the footy & properly dispose?

Quote from Dasler: HA HA HA no I wouldn't go that far because he does get his own ball…
You said it yourself, he can get that ball & that’s all that matters!

It's easier to snap a twig than a log......think about it.

When did I make mention about his size? I simply said he doesn't like physical confrontations.
 
Get off your high horse Dasler! I agree with Zanzi, Lukas Teague has unbelievable skills, using both sides of his body & great vision AND not to mention this kid will fill out, he more than likely will be the dark horse!
 
Quote:
“Drawback is he is so soft it isnt funny. Doesn't like physical game and very rarely gets involved in the tough hard stuff. His skills are too hard to ignore so someone may take a punt on him.”

Quote: “It's easier to snap a twig than a log......think about it.”


Of course, Dhead-Dasler, but like I said before, if you’re skills are good enough, all the other crap doesn’t matter! Every player could always be harder at the ball, but if you are only relying on your physical strength to get you through, you’re better off on the rugby field, because “physical” attributes are certainly not everything…think about it…
 
Originally posted by zanzi
Quote:
“Drawback is he is so soft it isnt funny. Doesn't like physical game and very rarely gets involved in the tough hard stuff. His skills are too hard to ignore so someone may take a punt on him.”

Quote: “It's easier to snap a twig than a log......think about it.”


Of course, Dhead-Dasler, but like I said before, if you’re skills are good enough, all the other crap doesn’t matter! Every player could always be harder at the ball, but if you are only relying on your physical strength to get you through, you’re better off on the rugby field, because “physical” attributes are certainly not everything…think about it…

I've said nothing but positive things about young Teague haven't I except he doesn't like physical, aggressive games yet. He needs to work on that aspect. It was an observation.

So it's ok for Farren Ray to be told he needs some meat on his bones but not Lukas Teague? You need your head checked out then........there's nothing derogatory about physical development being needed...FACT
 

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Interesting comments on draft prospects. A lot of expectation on some of these guys too. I think Dasler has confused AFL with Rugby, going by his descriptions of Adams and Teague. Skills are handy - to be able to get the ball and once you get the ball to dispose of it effectively,and it doesn't need to take a player built like Arnie Scwarzenegger to get a ball. You surely could not have played footy Dasler?

These lads are just learning the game and it is at this point in their careers whether someone with a chequebook can give them the opportunity to show their ability higher up. The hard and the soft aspects of different players is what balances the great game.
 
Originally posted by YAKUZA
Looks like you've got some new fans dasler.

Inevitable when you say things people don't want to hear. Simply observations directed at helping them improve to become better players being turned into negative connotations by others when not intended too.
 
Originally posted by zanzi

Of course, Dhead-Dasler, but like I said before, if you’re skills are good enough, all the other crap doesn’t matter!

One of the toughest things about our game is the combination of skills needed. Stamina, speed, strength, height and skills are just the start. Very few players will be able to build a career on one or two things unless they are exceptional.

The idea that if your skills are enough nothing else matters is a bit OTT. I think many footy fans have spent the past decade saying that skillful footballers are being passed over for athletes who have a 10th of the ability. If you were right Adam Houlihan would be a Brownlow medalist.
 
Originally posted by dasler
Inevitable when you say things people don't want to hear. Simply observations directed at helping them improve to become better players being turned into negative connotations by others when not intended too.

I think you gave Adams, Jovanovic and Teague all good wraps. Not sure if we would take them with our early picks but I would like to see us try and rookie list them some of them if they don't get picked up.
 
Originally posted by Sera
I think you gave Adams, Jovanovic and Teague all good wraps. Not sure if we would take them with our early picks but I would like to see us try and rookie list them some of them if they don't get picked up.

I thought so too.......I'm fans of Craig and Lukas in particular, but that doesn't matter to some because I said areas of improvement are.....
 
Originally posted by dasler
I thought so too.......I'm fans of Craig and Lukas in particular, but that doesn't matter to some because I said areas of improvement are.....

None of the kids need to improve or have any weaknesses. They are all cherry-ripe for the AFL and will come straight in and star straight away. Ignore the fact that Alex Gilmour is 10kg lighter than Aaron Fiora for example.
 
QUOTE’S FROM D/HEAD DASLER:
I've said nothing but positive things about young Teague haven't I except he doesn't like physical, aggressive games yet. He needs to work on that aspect. It was an observation.
“Inevitable when you say things people don't want to hear. Simply observations directed at helping them improve to become better players being turned into negative connotations by others when not intended too.”

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE DASLER, IS YOUR CRITICISM AIN’T CONSTRUCTIVE! GET OVER THE NEED FOR PHYSICAL STRENGTH, BECAUSE AS Weaver POINTED OUT, THERE ARE CERTAINLY A WHOLE COMBINATION OF ATTRIBUTES REQUIRED, HENCE ALL COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME FROM YOU HAVE BEEN DEROGATORY RE: Physical Development!

KICK’S QUOTE IS SPOT ON:
“ Skills are handy - to be able to get the ball and once you get the ball to dispose of it effectively,and it doesn't need to take a player built like Arnie Scwarzenegger to get a ball.”

SPEAKING ABOUT FACTS, I RECALL YOU BAGGING EACH OF THE 3 BLOKES YOU MENTIONED DASLER…YOU MAY HAVE SAID SOMETHING REASONABLE ABOUT THEM TO BEGIN WITH, THEN TURNED IT ALL AROUND. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT b4 YOU SUMIT THEM! ALSO I DID NOT MENTION FARREN RAY AT ALL, PROBABLY BEAUSE HE AIN’T NOTHING SPECIAL, ONLY STOOD OUT BECAUSE ½ THE PEEL SIDE ARE LESS THAN AVERAGE! THE ORIGINAL QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE 3 SOUTH FREO BOY’S ANYWAY.

“ALL YOU CAN COME UP WITH ARE SAD COMMENTS, YOU DEFINITELY HAVE NEVER PLAYED THE GAME. SORRY TO DISAPPOINT YOU, BUT AFL IS REMARKABLY DIFFERENT FROM RUGBY OR SOCCER…”
 
Originally posted by zanzi
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE DASLER, IS YOUR CRITICISM AIN’T CONSTRUCTIVE! GET OVER THE NEED FOR PHYSICAL STRENGTH, BECAUSE AS Weaver POINTED OUT, THERE ARE CERTAINLY A WHOLE COMBINATION OF ATTRIBUTES REQUIRED, HENCE ALL COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME FROM YOU HAVE BEEN DEROGATORY RE: Physical Development!

:rolleyes: I'll leave this space open for Weaver...

And zanzi they aren't criticisms....they are my observations. That's all nothing more, nothing less.
 

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Zanzi just a few posts for you that I POSTED and was able to find using the search facet of the board......I shall leave that to your liberty. Feel free to Private Message me zanzi if you would like anything clarified.

Grand Final Review -
Lukas Teague - played an excellent game with superb skills. In the wet embaressed his opponets with a smoothness and velvet like game. Chipped in with a goal and ran very hard all day through the lines. An excellent effort.

Independent Quotes -
As for the boys, I'm not ashamed at all to speak up young Teague and Surjan as I do believe they are our best players talent wise this year, closely followed by Moody, Hall and Duffield.

Anyone notice the breath-taking display Lukas Teague put on for South Fremantle colts from the wing at all yesterday?? 33 touches and a goal from the wing and some unparalled skills. Absolutely awesome to watch.Anyone know much about him and could be a smokey come draft time with his unbelievable skills......

There seems to be a large proportion of these players eligible for draft and performing well now. The main 3 are almost certain but some other guys have impressed me alot this season and shown breath taking glimpses.
Lukas Teague.
Theo Adams.
Craig Jovanovic.
Paul Duffield.
Brent Bosustow.

Get one thing straight, I am a fan of Lukas Teague and how he goes about his football............
 
Originally posted by zanzi
QUOTE’S ALSO I DID NOT MENTION FARREN RAY AT ALL, PROBABLY BEAUSE HE AIN’T NOTHING SPECIAL, ONLY STOOD OUT BECAUSE ½ THE PEEL SIDE ARE LESS THAN AVERAGE!


Now that statement leads me to believe that you really don't have much of a clue at all zanzi!

Those who know something of the South boys would agree that dasler has a fairly good handle on them and his assessments are in the main fair and accurate. I get the impression that some of yours show a bit of parental bias.
 
Dasler - Your initial conmments are very good regarding the three boys in mention. You are obviously very close down at S.Freo colts. Teague has outstanding skills and is incredibly fast. I would rate him over the game as a quicker runner to Surjan throughout the 4 quarters. His one let down on the skills side is that he sometimes spears the ball too hard when a simple kick out in front would suffice. He is an outside player but I can think of many a great AFL/VFL player who was like that.

Weaver your initial comments about Adams is also on the money. As a tagger Theo did an excellent job. His main weapon is his explosive pace which is why he was used to tag. For S.Freo we didn't play him as a tag but as the player who busted packs to get first use of the pill and to break through lines with his pace. The fact that he is built like a brick outhouse is a bonus to the whole package. Unfortunately his skills might let him down during the draft pick, but he'll make a very good League player if he does miss out.
 
Michael Johnson has a very poor training ethic which is why clubs passed on him last year. he can certainly play and has exceptional skills for a big man and his ability to pick up the ball at pace on the ground is as good I have seen for a player of his size. The closest would be Adam Goodes or even Clem Michael before he did his knee.

If he improved his work ethic, he would be right up there.
 
I can also tell you that one of the Jones boys will go in the first two rounds from Claremont yet hardly anyone has them in their fantasy drafts...mark this space.
 

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What part of my last statement don't you understand Yakuza?

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m no relation to any of the boys mentioned. I’ve just watched them since junior’s, unlike some. Parental bias seems to circulate between you & Dasler, maybe you are the same person as no one else is stupid enough to back up the petty comments made…
 
Originally posted by zanzi
What part of my last statement don't you understand Yakuza?

Sorry to disappoint you, but I’m no relation to any of the boys mentioned. I’ve just watched them since junior’s, unlike some. Parental bias seems to circulate between you & Dasler, maybe you are the same person as no one else is stupid enough to back up the petty comments made…

Mate chill out....

I am sorry but you are being very aggressive...

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but there is no need to go over the top...

Please take a deap breath and count to five before you post next. Dasler, Yakuza and you are allowed to post their opinion without being attacked. For the record and a non biased perspective I think that neither Yakuza nor Dasler have not breached acceptable behavior and whilst you may disagree please try and be less emotional and less accusitory. It may help you to actually get you point accross more clearly.

This is just my opinion and you may (and probably will) tell me to f### of but I thought it was appropriate opinion to express.

Cheers
 
For those in other states other than W.A ther are some players of note and some not of note but maybe of lineage that could be regarded as smokies from W.A

S.Freo: Have a player named Clinton Jones who along with Teague could be suprises.
Perth: Johnson can play and might slip past peoples attention.
E.Freo Adrian Curley is an Aboriginal player with great skills and is very coachable.
Claremont: I don't know if Rory Walton has nominated but this kid can play. He is Claremont's best player and they made the Colts Grand Final this year.
Swans: Andrew Embley's brother may be one to look at. He is tall and athletic but hopefully doesn't take 4 -5 years to come to fruition.
East Perth: Adam Edwards would be the best possibility, but I don't think so.
Peel: None, except for the obvious
W.Perth: I would of said Burges but that is now out of the bag. I don't know if Adam Rowles has nominated but if not this year then next. ( i think its Adam)
Subiaco: Have an excellent player by the name of Matthew Priddis. This boy can play onball, he's robust and has great aerobic capacity. This guy is a real smoky!
 
Originally posted by southjoy
For those in other states other than W.A ther are some players of note and some not of note but maybe of lineage that could be regarded as smokies from W.A

S.Freo: Have a player named Clinton Jones who along with Teague could be suprises.
Perth: Johnson can play and might slip past peoples attention.
E.Freo Adrian Curley is an Aboriginal player with great skills and is very coachable.
Claremont: I don't know if Rory Walton has nominated but this kid can play. He is Claremont's best player and they made the Colts Grand Final this year.
Swans: Andrew Embley's brother may be one to look at. He is tall and athletic but hopefully doesn't take 4 -5 years to come to fruition.
East Perth: Adam Edwards would be the best possibility, but I don't think so.
Peel: None, except for the obvious
W.Perth: I would of said Burges but that is now out of the bag. I don't know if Adam Rowles has nominated but if not this year then next. ( i think its Adam)
Subiaco: Have an excellent player by the name of Matthew Priddis. This boy can play onball, he's robust and has great aerobic capacity. This guy is a real smoky!

Rory Walton........you must be joking? He's about 40 kgs :D. Don't see THAT happening at all I'm afraid.

Clint Jones is a very good WAFL player, hard running midfielder with lovely left foot but is an outside midfielder and only has one side to his body.

Matthew Priddis plods along all day in a canter, no real burst play to get excited about. Very very fit though, and based on his Beep test of 15.6 he could be a smokey I agree.

Adam Rowles is more likely for next year, hopefully he'll turn those massive possession counts into productive ones and he'll be an awesome player.
 
I'm fortunate to know Chris personally. He is a terrific player right throughout his junior career. Chris has only one problem and that is his body handling the rigours of sport.
I'm sure you would of heard more about him except for him breaking bones at least twice in the development days at East freo, OP just recently and some minor other ailments.
He is able to read the play as he has played the majority as an onballer, great capacity to run, listens to his coaches, a good teammate despite being the "star". Later in life he has grown considerably and can take a great mark. His foot skills are good without being exceptional, but in saying that he has missed a lot of football.
At the development level for the WAFL; 13's , 14's 15 and16's Jono was clearly regarded as one of the best in the state in comparison to his peers.
Cosidering that he is a young player and could play Colts again next year and play 18's again he would be regarded as a "Cooney, Walker, etc" for his year level.
Hope this gives you an insight into a great talent that you will be picking up.
 

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