Dwayne Russell's comments tonight

[year of the cat]

I realise that Dwayne is not Bombers number one fan but tonight on 3AW he stated that he thinks that Bomber's time is up. Furthermore when quizzed by Gerard Healy and Gary Lyon as to whether there was any "smoke or sparks" going on at the club with regard to Thompson leaving, he said "more like flames".

It appears that Bombers days are numbered - whether he walks or is pushed seems inevitable. Bomber appeared post-match to be pretty relaxed I thought, almost the demeanour of someone who knew it was all about to end.....

 

[SJ]

Thank goodness.

He's had that appearance since about round 8 too I think.

 

[catdman]

To take a quote from another thread, we need to "Do Something", the curve is going downwards after '04...

Bomber being relaxed is half the problem, show some damm aggro 4 once !!!!

 

[purring]

very interesting...

 

[CF]

I will believe it when I see it I am afraid. This club has a History of disappointing us with stupid decisions. Nearly everyone wants him out, but the ones in control ie Kosta and the board are the only ones that can make that decision.

I wonder if Bombers only chance was to make the finals this year. Since we wont, then his position must be untenable.

Makes me wonder if some of the players haven't tanked it for that reason. I mean how could they play that bad?? Something isn't right. Bombers seemed to have lost alot of credibilty with the playing group on the sacking of Bertolacci. They were pretty close to him as you would expect for a fitness coach. I am only offering some conjecture there have no facts to back that up.

 

[SJ]

To take a quote from another thread, we need to "Do Something", the curve is going downwards after '04...

Bomber being relaxed is half the problem, show some damm aggro 4 once !!!!

I agree. And I love that quote.

 

[thegerman]

I will believe it when I see it I am afraid. This club has a History of disappointing us with stupid decisions. Nearly everyone wants him out, but the ones in control ie Kosta and the board are the only ones that can make that decision.

I wonder if Bombers only chance was to make the finals this year. Since we wont, then his position must be untenable.

Makes me wonder if some of the players haven't tanked it for that reason. I mean how could they play that bad?? Something isn't right. Bombers seemed to have lost alot of credibilty with the playing group on the sacking of Bertolacci. They were pretty close to him as you would expect for a fitness coach. I am only offering some conjecture there have no facts to back that up.

If the players have tanked it, they deserved to be suspended for life. Throwing games, and the thought of doing so should not be thrown about as a reason for this team losing.

The Chicago White Sox come to mind when we look at team who throw matches, don't make excuses for an average season by writing comments that they might have thrown/tanked games just because of their relationship with the coach. That is ridiculous.

They have hearts and passion, they tried to play that way. Would you like to come off the park at home and get boooed ??? That is what was facing them every home game during the year. Do you think they want that ??

You would have to have a few screws loose to believe this crap.

 

[thehoff]

I will believe it when I see it I am afraid. This club has a History of disappointing us with stupid decisions. Nearly everyone wants him out, but the ones in control ie Kosta and the board are the only ones that can make that decision.

I wonder if Bombers only chance was to make the finals this year. Since we wont, then his position must be untenable.

Makes me wonder if some of the players haven't tanked it for that reason. I mean how could they play that bad?? Something isn't right. Bombers seemed to have lost alot of credibilty with the playing group on the sacking of Bertolacci. They were pretty close to him as you would expect for a fitness coach. I am only offering some conjecture there have no facts to back that up.

I hear what you are saying, however i find it highly unlikely that the players would even consider tanking. I was speaking to one of the players last night and he advised me that they are trying their guts out and it's not the coaches fault. I did not want to ask too many questions but i was also advised that there is no inner fighting to his knowledge, nor have any of the players lost faith in Bomber or vice versa.

He has also advised me previously that Bomber does have some agro about him (behind closed doors) and is sometimes a little difficult to approach, yet is a very loyal person and will back his players no matter what (even if it means his job).

Bomber will be at the club next year because he has a contract and Frank Costa is a proud man who does as he says and will honour Thompson contract.

I don't think bomber is totally to blame. Kelly, Ling, S.Johnson and Co. have all had second rate seasons. Bomber cannot give the players form, nor can ge teach them the art of decision making.

Bomber has done very well to gain us 6 wins from the last 9 starts (even though the opposition have been poor). If we win 2 of the last 3, that will be 8 of the last 12 which is a pretty decent record considering we had wins over Brisbane at the Gabba and Fremantle at Subi.

Bomber has taken us from no-where to a Premlim before and clearly has the right ingredients to have a successful team. Honour his contract, if 2007 fails, go after a big fish....

 

[Jack-Packenham]

Bomber has taken us from no-where to a Premlim before and clearly has the right ingredients to have a successful team. Honour his contract, if 2007 fails, go after a big fish....

Every team except Fremantle has made a preliminary final in the past 10 years.

Peter Schwab and Danny Frawley achieved this monumental feet also. It's not a big deal.

 

[Budda 230]

I realise that Dwayne is not Bombers number one fan but tonight on 3AW he stated that he thinks that Bomber's time is up. Furthermore when quizzed by Gerard Healy and Gary Lyon as to whether there was any "smoke or sparks" going on at the club with regard to Thompson leaving, he said "more like flames".

It appears that Bombers days are numbered - whether he walks or is pushed seems inevitable. Bomber appeared post-match to be pretty relaxed I thought, almost the demeanour of someone who knew it was all about to end.....

Dwayne Russell is the biggest dribbler in the media. Dribbles every time he commentates. He has had something against Geelong ever since he left the club. He loves to exaggerate any story to make himself look informative.

 

[CF]

I am not saying that I believe some players have tanked it...just offering a discussion piont based on all the recent drama at the club.

 

[year of the cat]

Dwayne Russell is the biggest dribbler in the media. Dribbles every time he commentates. He has had something against Geelong ever since he left the club. He loves to exaggerate any story to make himself look informative.

I can't stand him as well - very arrogant man - but he did appear have some "behind the scenes" knowledge. I think I heard recently that Gareth Andrews had requested a meeting with Costa regarding the status of the club. Maybe he is one of the board members pushing for change.

 

[purring]

I hear what you are saying, however i find it highly unlikely that the players would even consider tanking. I was speaking to one of the players last night and he advised me that they are trying their guts out and it's not the coaches fault. I did not want to ask too many questions but i was also advised that there is no inner fighting to his knowledge, nor have any of the players lost faith in Bomber or vice versa.

He has also advised me previously that Bomber does have some agro about him (behind closed doors) and is sometimes a little difficult to approach, yet is a very loyal person and will back his players no matter what (even if it means his job).

Bomber will be at the club next year because he has a contract and Frank Costa is a proud man who does as he says and will honour Thompson contract.

I don't think bomber is totally to blame. Kelly, Ling, S.Johnson and Co. have all had second rate seasons. Bomber cannot give the players form, nor can ge teach them the art of decision making.

Bomber has done very well to gain us 6 wins from the last 9 starts (even though the opposition have been poor). If we win 2 of the last 3, that will be 8 of the last 12 which is a pretty decent record considering we had wins over Brisbane at the Gabba and Fremantle at Subi.

Bomber has taken us from no-where to a Premlim before and clearly has the right ingredients to have a successful team. Honour his contract, if 2007 fails, go after a big fish....

That's not what I am hearing hoff. we will have to wait and see ey..

 

[malvern]

I hear what you are saying, however i find it highly unlikely that the players would even consider tanking. I was speaking to one of the players last night and he advised me that they are trying their guts out and it's not the coaches fault. I did not want to ask too many questions but i was also advised that there is no inner fighting to his knowledge, nor have any of the players lost faith in Bomber or vice versa.

He has also advised me previously that Bomber does have some agro about him (behind closed doors) and is sometimes a little difficult to approach, yet is a very loyal person and will back his players no matter what (even if it means his job).

Bomber will be at the club next year because he has a contract and Frank Costa is a proud man who does as he says and will honour Thompson contract.

I don't think bomber is totally to blame. Kelly, Ling, S.Johnson and Co. have all had second rate seasons. Bomber cannot give the players form, nor can ge teach them the art of decision making.

Bomber has done very well to gain us 6 wins from the last 9 starts (even though the opposition have been poor). If we win 2 of the last 3, that will be 8 of the last 12 which is a pretty decent record considering we had wins over Brisbane at the Gabba and Fremantle at Subi.

Bomber has taken us from no-where to a Premlim before and clearly has the right ingredients to have a successful team. Honour his contract, if 2007 fails, go after a big fish....

Well said.

I am as gutted as anyone about the performance against the Roo's and Saints however this sits squarely with the players - particularly some of the Senior players. Poor decision making, lazy, selfish and arrogant.

They need to get over themselves and show themselves worthy to wear the jumper.

 

[malvern]

Every team except Fremantle has made a preliminary final in the past 10 years.

Peter Schwab and Danny Frawley achieved this monumental feet also. It's not a big deal.

Not really much of a stat! 10 years is a long time in football!

In the past 30 years 11 clubs have won a flag! Also just as meaningless.

Surely a more meaningful assessment is based on where the club was when he took over and his performance to date.

 

[CF]

another thing I have noticed this year is that the players don't respond to Bomber as well as they did in the half and quarter-time huddles. In 02-05 if the team was getting over-run by the oposition it seemed that if they could hold out to the siren, the talk provided by Bomber was enough to refocus them and they'd come out firing again. This year it seems that is not the case. Maybe familiarity breeds contempt in this case????

 

[Waverley73]

Bomber appeared post-match to be pretty relaxed I thought, almost the demeanour of someone who knew it was all about to end.....

He's always relaxed - even when you'd reckon he shouldn't be. We need someone down there who doesn't mind actually getting stuck into his players and demanding nothing but the best from all of them.

 

[TheTimeCometh]

but it is a recent 'success' stat nontheless malvern. discounting it, requires you discount '04 as meaningless as well then.

 

[-Charlie-]

Just because Bomber looks relaxed doesn't mean anything.
Maybe that's just the way he is. You can't judge someone because they seem "relaxed" when their team is losing.

 

[Waverley73]

Just because Bomber looks relaxed doesn't mean anything.
Maybe that's just the way he is. You can't judge someone because they seem "relaxed" when their team is losing.

Yeah, I used to always defend Bomber because I thought he was directing us in the right direction. I just reckon if a coach comes out and really shows he's disappointed and actually plssed off this would show the players that they've clearly got to lift. I know he's got a real relaxed vibe thing going on but maybe the current playing group, who have a lack of leadership within themselves, need a real hard-ass guy to actually direct them with a bit of auth-o-ritie? I just reckon the time he's had the results have been well short given the talent we've supposedly got.

 

[thehoff]

He's always relaxed - even when you'd reckon he shouldn't be. We need someone down there who doesn't mind actually getting stuck into his players and demanding nothing but the best from all of them.

Correct, however there is not too many coaches out there that i would be happy to take over.

Leigh Matthews would be great but it will never happen due to the history between him and the club, Neil Craig is Adelaide born and Bread, Paul Roos will be coaching Sydney for a long time, Kevin Sheedy, Denis Pagan and Mick Malthouse have all lost the passion in my opinion.

That leaves us with one option.... BRING BACK BLIGHTY or as suggested, stick with Bomber for an additional season and evaluate at the completion of 2007 (hopefully with some silverware).

 

[thehoff]

Yeah, I used to always defend Bomber because I thought he was directing us in the right direction. I just reckon if a coach comes out and really shows he's disappointed and actually plssed off this would show the players that they've clearly got to lift. I know he's got a real relaxed vibe thing going on but maybe the current playing group, who have a lack of leadership within themselves, need a real hard-ass guy to actually direct them with a bit of auth-o-ritie? I just reckon the time he's had the results have been well short given the talent we've supposedly got.

He does this behind closed doors.

 

[Waverley73]

He does this behind closed doors.

Yeah, he probably does but how effective has that been? Maybe showing a bit of mongrel in public might make the players think - geez, he might actually mean it.

Whatever he does it ain't working..

 

[quartercat]

Not really much of a stat! 10 years is a long time in football!

In the past 30 years 11 clubs have won a flag! Also just as meaningless.

Surely a more meaningful assessment is based on where the club was when he took over and his performance to date.

Without comment

1999 - we finished 11th with 10 wins, 12 losses and 97.9%
2006 - we're currently 9th with 9 wins 10 losses and 100+%

Overall average over seven years - home and away

11 wins, 11 losses win loss/ratio 50%

Overall average over seven years - finals

2 wins, 4 losses win/loss ratio 33.3%

 

[Larakin15]

Very good stat - and add to that:

2004 - Prelim final
2005 - Semi Final
2006 - Miss finals

Are we going forward and backward? Also, Bomber and co. have had 7 years to build/implement a decent forward structure, and are we any better off now than before? Have our recent draft picks improved at all? (e.g Tenace, Lonergan, Spencer). Are our "top-line" players getting better or performing to an expected level? (e.g Ling, King, Scarlett, etc.)

The buck has to stop somewhere, something has to change...