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Is this a joke? Did you really say that Cooldude? Surely not!
 
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With KP i wouldn't be surprised if he follows the trend of Clark

Starts off with a bang, everyone thinks his the new bradman, then his scores fall and he has to battle to re-establish himself again

DISCUSS??
 
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LIONS then DAYLIGHT said:
With KP i wouldn't be surprised if he follows the trend of Clark

Starts off with a bang, everyone thinks his the new bradman, then his scores fall and he has to battle to re-establish himself again

DISCUSS??
No
 
It's certainly more 'bad' than 'good'. Of the recognised english batsmen, he's definitely in the bottom half. I think a lot of it is the 'makeshift' one day shots/slogs coming out in his test innings occassionally. As everyone said though, great eye that makes up for it.
 

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LIONS then DAYLIGHT said:
With KP i wouldn't be surprised if he follows the trend of Clark

Starts off with a bang, everyone thinks his the new bradman, then his scores fall and he has to battle to re-establish himself again

DISCUSS??

No, because Clarkes is not an attitude problem, Clarke started off with a bang against India who are mostly spinners and the medium pace of NZ, when he faced true pace bowlers, thats where he is in trouble

Pietersen has faced the best leg spinner, the best fast bowler and the 2nd fastest bowler in the world and dispatched of them all showing no obvious weakness to any kind of bowling
 
Cooldude said:
Looser than Trescothick, my goodness, stop it, you're killing me :D

Pieterson was remarkably solid offensively and defensively against both of McGrath and Warne, he played both as well as anyone I've seen.

Trescothick, anyone who've seen him bat would know that he's one of the loosest opening bat going around, he loves giving slip catching practice, and quite frankly how he can average anything higher than the 30s is a damning assessment on the fast bowling stocks around the world

What do you term Pieterson as "loose"? You mean when he gets out hooking or trying to smack bowlers? Then that has nothing to do with technique, purely shot selection which even he would admit he's still yet to perfect. Other than that, the Aussies had little idea on where to bowl to him

OK if Piterson isnt loose lets see him open the batting. Opening the batting is the biggest test for a tight technique, and traditionally the openers have the tightest techniques in the team bar maybe the number 3 or 4 who is the often the best player in the side. If Pieterson opened the batting for England he wouldnt last a whole series, unlike Trescothick who averages around 44 opening the batting.

Pieterson is loose because he is one of the flickiest players in the world, by flicky i mean very wristy and very bottom handed. That is his technique not shot selection. Trescothick is not a super tight player, but is far tighter than Pieterson. End of story.
 
Don't throw stats around now, anyone who thinks Trescothick has a tight technique are delusional. The bloke's spot as an opener has been questioned for god knows how long, until the past year or so.

To say Trescothick is a tighter player than Pieterson is an absolute joke, you don't see Pieterson just fish at a ball outside off with no footwork and hit a slip catch like Trescothick does, as simple as that.

BTW, Bradman used to have a very strong bottom hand with a strange way to drive the ball as well (He flicks at balls with a full follow through of the bat), does that mean he's loose, too?

And btw, Pieterson's flick shots don't often get him out, if at all. Just because he's unorthodox and does it in a way that works for him, doesn't mean he has a bad technique. When it starts getting him out, then it is a technical flaw, but it hasn't

Some of you needs a new perception on "technique", and what makes a good technique
 
Cooldude said:
BTW, Bradman used to have a very strong bottom hand with a strange way to drive the ball as well (He flicks at balls with a full follow through of the bat), does that mean he's loose, too?

And btw, Pieterson's flick shots don't often get him out, if at all. Just because he's unorthodox and does it in a way that works for him, doesn't mean he has a bad technique. When it starts getting him out, then it is a technical flaw, but it hasn't

Some of you needs a new perception on "technique", and what makes a good technique
I like the way he got cleaned bowled by warne by having a cross bat slog :)

and cooldude 29-15 i win :)
 
wang said:
Poor technique, brilliant eye. You can park a truck between his bat and pad. Also has very hard hands that get a long way in front of pads, im suprised he doesnt present more opportunites close to the bat.

That's the way he planned to combat Warne: Hands right out in front of the pads to prevent bat-pads. It was a brillant ploy.

And anyone who did fair dinkum see him play defensive shots would never say there's massive gate between bat and pad.

Highest run scorer in a series where the bowlers dominated? Yet poor technique? I know some Aussies around here don't like the Skunk Head, but to term him as a slogger is as stupid as saying Gilly is a slogger.

It's only poor technique if it starts getting him out, and the one where Warnie bowled him through the gate was a brillant piece of bowling, and a ********ehouse bit of shot selection, he was hitting Warnie outta the park all day with that shot for 5 Tests until then
 

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