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Movie Eternals

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Watched it last night

Have to agree with most of the assessments already posted

The only thing to take from this is -after introducing all the characters- that focussing on individual Eternals means a tighter movie
 
Contrary to popular belief, didn't mind it that much, sure a bit meh at times but hey, as I'm of opinion that Thor Ragnarok is hard trash due to pissing on planet hulk + world war hulk as a pisstake joke piece, this was infinitely better despite the issues it faced to me. I did also know who the characters were going in as I had largely read the multitudes of Eternal reboots over the years, so Sprites story was entirely ruined for me for example, still, can't fault the actual narrative in that character. They also seemed to handball Tiamuts deal to Ashema who retained his perk as listener to tiamuts dreamer (who changes mind on the destruction) for then Ashema to then listen to then decide on the destruction, so was always a celestial thing for me at the core and they did keep that in tune somewhat with the narrative.

Largely, I do think familiarity assisted in me liking this more compared to something like Ragnarok where it took characters and storylines I knew and liked and instead of deviating with them just basically went and straight "choice bro, lol"d it instead to irritate me to no end.
 
I mostly liked it. I don't take superhero movies at all seriously so I have the expectation that the tension will be built round the characters' powers being diminished or increased to suit the plot. Basically it's like two kids saying 'I can fly and I've got laser eyes' and the other one saying 'No, but now I've got magic bracelets'. Once you get past that you have to judge it whether it's entertaining and whether the story holds together.

I would say it was very entertaining but the story didn't always make sense.

eg (with weird new spoilers)

The Eternals weren't allowed to intervene in human affairs because world wars increased the population?



Thanos destroyed half of life in the Universe but no Eternals got involved?

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sorted said:
I mostly liked it. I don't take superhero movies at all seriously so I have the expectation that the tension will be built round the characters' powers be diminished or increased to suit the plot. Basically it's like two kids saying 'I can fly and I've got laser eyes' and the other one saying 'No, but now I've got magic bracelets'. Once you get past that you have to judge it whether it's entertaining and whether the story holds together.

I would say it was very entertaining but the story didn't always make sense.

eg (with weird new spoilers)

The Eternals weren't allowed to intervene in human affairs because world wars increased the population?



Thanos destroyed half of life in the Universe but no Eternals got involved?

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RE spoiler, I assume it's because of their history, that was the reason why they remained unaffected.

If they were basically grown Eternals from Celestials from what we assume is akin to the power cosmic in comics, they aren't exactly alive to then be killed off, which is part of why they do not age at all in any way shape or form. After all, you have to be alive to then die and they don't exactly die. As Ajax for example when drained, just turned to stone in effect, and the celestials could just grow another Ajax if they wanted. As the reveal intimated, Olympia doesn't exist, everything they know, they are, was manufactured. In the way that say Jarvis survived Thanos as he has no body, no soul, Ikarus mirrored that before he then found emotion and yeeted himself into the sun from the "beautiful isn't it? I'm Ikarus" comment at the very beginning to "I screwed up, I'm sorry, I'm going to kill myself now".

F4 wise, making the celestials core in Eternals sets up silver surfer being a herald of Galactus also. So bonus points for that link in that acquisition.

Smart choice that I assume they threw that in to both give gravitas to the characters and palm off really the "why didn't they help with "X" logic, given at the very end we also see that they have no control at all when a celestial says "come here bitch" to then have multiple ways they could just be elsewhere at any given time. Also given this, who is to say they weren't? Spoken word? Eternals, given they are constructed can basically resurrect willy nilly with same memories as factory built yeah? Thena also shows that memory reprinting is a thing and can be a bit shit as a character. Even that question brings a question to it of maybe they were but don't have the memory as not the same character?

If we assume there's also things like the living tribunal, the one above all and everything else that's wonderful and omnipotent as well, the stones would have limits also, as it's not like Thanos would be aware of say 16 celestials who were and likely are universal constructs to then halve them or have the combined ability to, when he generally has to exist within a vacuum and confined spaces.

It's why I went into it figuring it'd be an entry to space nonsense for baby steps, and why they then would play with comfort. I mean, we saw Knowhere, we know it's the head of a celestial, no one really asked, what killed a celestial to decapitate it to begin with? And what we see them do here in the movie, expands on that.
 

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sorted said:
I mostly liked it. I don't take superhero movies at all seriously so I have the expectation that the tension will be built round the characters' powers be diminished or increased to suit the plot. Basically it's like two kids saying 'I can fly and I've got laser eyes' and the other one saying 'No, but now I've got magic bracelets'. Once you get past that you have to judge it whether it's entertaining and whether the story holds together.

I would say it was very entertaining but the story didn't always make sense.

eg (with weird new spoilers)

The Eternals weren't allowed to intervene in human affairs because world wars increased the population?



Thanos destroyed half of life in the Universe but no Eternals got involved?

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They're charged with protecting the growth of the population of the planet they've been placed on, not thwarting intergalactic villains. Thanos was outside their remit, and I guess a cosmic consequence they just had to deal with.
 
Strapping Young Lad said:
They're charged with protecting the growth of the population of the planet they've been placed on, not thwarting intergalactic villains. Thanos was outside their remit, and I guess a cosmic consequence they just had to deal with.
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Yeh but that's a logic hole as he's pointed out.

Their mission is apparantly to keep the population growing, and they did this by fighting Deviants who could kill humans, but they don't do it for other villians that kill half the universe's population? Big flaw in the plan there.
 
juss said:
Yeh but that's a logic hole as he's pointed out.

Their mission is apparantly to keep the population growing, and they did this by fighting Deviants who could kill humans, but they don't do it for other villians that kill half the universe's population? Big flaw in the plan there.
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Because they don’t leave their planet to enter into intergalactic fights.


Like a cattle dog doesn’t leave it’s farm.
 
glenferry23 said:
They didn’t necessarily have to leave the planet though to assist.

Albeit getting into Wakanda is whole different challenge!
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I mean yeah, once he turned up in Wakanda he was in their jurisdiction, but how were they to know what was playing out until the snap had happened?

There’s no link between the Eternals and the avengers either, so it’s not like they could get a call on the bat-phone, or pager aka Carol.
Thanos was on and off world in a matter of minutes.
 

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I've been rewatching a few movies on my new TV and sound system. Eternals is impressive visually and the explosions through the subwoofer made my house shake (and freaked out my cat).

I don't mind this subgenre of Marvel. There's no time travel, mulitiverse or witchcraft. But there's a couple too many superheroes that we've never met before crammed into one movie. The Kingo character didn't add anything to it apart from trying to appeal to Indian audiences. It's not clear why Arishem created a permanent child Eternal. Or one that is deaf. It leads to some unnecessary scenes that drag it out to 2 hours 30, and causes it to lose focus. The credits reveal that the screenplay was written by four people, and at times it shows.

Gemma Chan in the main role was badly cast. She's beautiful to look at but her acting is wooden. It's probably a good thing that Selma Hayek's screen time was minimal.

All that said, I enjoyed it. There are two credits scenes featuring Harry Styles and Kit Harrington that strongly imply a sequel. But it seems that's not going to happen despite it fairing well at the box office and on streaming.
 
peternorth said:
what did the eternals cast do when the snap happened?
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They do mention the snap in the movie, but it didn't affect them because they weren't living creatures; they were machines/androids (built by Arishem) that ran on cosmic energy. (Not that most of them knew this apart from Ajay & Ikaris until Ikaris kills Ajay and Arishem reveals the truth to Sersi, who then tells all the others).
 

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