Ethics/Morals

[Dan Baker]

wife or girlfriend is fine
partner sounds cold and impersonal

Partner is when not married or transgender contract

 

[Scotland]

Partner makes you sound like you work at a legal/accounting firm or you are a cop. Or cowboy.

It's also pretty common with same sex couples because of the stigma of saying girlfriend/boyfriend when they are of the same gender. Not sure how much said stigma still exists and not really sure it makes a difference to be honest. If someone is going to have a problem with it they're going to have a problem with it, regardless of how someone is introduced. That and people are unlikely to attend a social event with a business partner. 'Oh you two are together?' 'No we do real estate development, I'm actually married but thought I'd leave the wife at home and bring Bill instead'.

Long term hetero couples into their 20s and 30s that don't get married tend to use partner, too. I think mainly because they've just run out of terms. When you're 35 and have been with someone for a decade are they still a girlfriend? What do people who start dating in their 40s and 50s or older say? Womanfriend and manfriend?

What are the ethics when it comes to religion for the non-religious/atheists among us? If someone asks you to be a Godparent is the polite thing to do to accept knowing that it doesn't actually mean anything or decline because you hate what the church stands for? That sort of thing.

 

[Firestarter]

Partner is the safe option when conservative nutjobs raise a stink about boyfriend or girlfriend.

 

[Firestarter]

Partner makes you sound like you work at a legal/accounting firm or you are a cop. Or cowboy.

It's also pretty common with same sex couples because of the stigma of saying girlfriend/boyfriend when they are of the same gender. Not sure how much said stigma still exists and not really sure it makes a difference to be honest. If someone is going to have a problem with it they're going to have a problem with it, regardless of how someone is introduced. That and people are unlikely to attend a social event with a business partner. 'Oh you two are together?' 'No we do real estate development, I'm actually married but thought I'd leave the wife at home and bring Bill instead'.

Long term hetero couples into their 20s and 30s that don't get married tend to use partner, too. I think mainly because they've just run out of terms. When you're 35 and have been with someone for a decade are they still a girlfriend? What do people who start dating in their 40s and 50s or older say? Womanfriend and manfriend?

What are the ethics when it comes to religion for the non-religious/atheists among us? If someone asks you to be a Godparent is the polite thing to do to accept knowing that it doesn't actually mean anything or decline because you hate what the church stands for? That sort of thing.

Godparent is just a name to me. The roles and duties within (or the prestige) are what matter.

 

[perthblue]

What are the ethics when it comes to religion for the non-religious/atheists among us? If someone asks you to be a Godparent is the polite thing to do to accept knowing that it doesn't actually mean anything or decline because you hate what the church stands for? That sort of thing.

make 'em and offer they can't refuse

 

[Scotland]

Partner is the safe option when conservative nutjobs raise a stink about boyfriend or girlfriend.

I don't see it.

'This is my girlfriend'
'But you are a girl, and she is a girl. The Bible says this is sin'
'OK, this is my partner'
'Better, my rage has eased'

 

[Firestarter]

I don't see it.

'This is my girlfriend'
'But you are a girl, and she is a girl. The Bible says this is sin'
'OK, this is my partner'
'Better, my rage has eased'

Well in their world same sex couples would burn in Hell. This is their "compromise" in polite society.

 

[craigos]

I don't see it.

'This is my girlfriend'
'But you are a girl, and she is a girl. The Bible says this is sin'
'OK, this is my partner'
'Better, my rage has eased'

I'd go with scissor sister and let them figure it out

 

[Admiral Byng]

On the double delivery, I would let the company know and ask them if they want to arrange collection and return of the items. Sometimes it would be easier for them to just tell you to keep them.

I had a case where I was sent two items, but they did send me a text message each time advising delivery today. So the second time I rang them and said I already got it a day or two earlier. They said to refuse delivery when the driver turned up. So I did. Thought I was being a pain but he said it happens all the time, so he took the item back to the depot.

 

[kickazz]

If you get extra things by mistake, too much change, etc I believe the ethical thing to do is let the other party know.
Too much change - the ethical thing is to alert them and give it back.
If it's delivered goods, you should feel no obligation to send them back, but holding them (for a reasonable time if doing so is not too burdensome) and allowing the sender to arrange retrieval is reasonable.

It's not yours, keeping it is not ethical.

Now if its a small amount, you don't like the company, etc etc you might choose to keep what's not rightfully yours.
That's fine, I've done that before - we've all done it.

Doesn't make you a necessarily bad person, but don't kid yourself into thinking you are being ethical in that moment.

 

[kickazz]

What are the ethics when it comes to religion for the non-religious/atheists among us? If someone asks you to be a Godparent is the polite thing to do to accept knowing that it doesn't actually mean anything or decline because you hate what the church stands for? That sort of thing.

I'd ask the parent what is expected of you as a godparent, from them.

If they expect you to uphold what the church expects from a godparent (such as providing religious / spiritual guidance), you should probably decline, because you are not fit for the job and may ultimately disappoint.

If they don't really care about that, but think you could be good as a general spiritual guide (whatever that means) you can decide to accept.

Atheists / non-religious can still be godparents. But if you also actually hate the church its probably best to decline, saying you aren't comfortable with religious type stuff.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Self checkout thread makes a neat summary.

Yep. As I pointed out, corporations do not act ethically, so there should be no compunction to act ethically towards them. Their supposed ethics are either just PR to maximise profits - or power trips by their execs to use their inflated influence to push their personal agendas. They'll happily play look at moi, look at moi about climate change, marriage equality and diversity while offshoring thousands of Australian jobs and awarding themselves huge pay rises.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

After moving into my first home I connected gas and electricity up with the same company. I always received electricity bill promptly, but never received a gas bill. I tried calling them a number of times during the first year, as I was skint at the time and did not want to be hit with a massive bill. I had heard from someone that they can only backdate 12 months, so after a year I did not bother pursuing it further. 8 years later I disconnected services, I have leased the property for the past 4 years, still no bill.

 

[kickazz]

After moving into my first home I connected gas and electricity up with the same company. I always received electricity bill promptly, but never received a gas bill. I tried calling them a number of times during the first year, as I was skint at the time and did not want to be hit with a massive bill. I had heard from someone that they can only backdate 12 months, so after a year I did not bother pursuing it further. 8 years later I disconnected services, I have leased the property for the past 4 years, still no bill.

So it's your fault there's a current gas shortage then.

 

[worbod]

Ethics?
I theem to recall Gwaham Gooch pwayed cwicket for Ethics.