European Super League/Expanded Champions League Format Discussion

[BobbyMorri]

I wonder how Bayern/Real/Barca fans would go not winning every game and a title each year.

Part of me wishes the big clubs would hurry up and sort it out. I don't watch or care about the UCL and prefer the smaller euro comps. A lot more fun watching West Ham and Fiorentina trying to win a title for the first time in decades than someone doing a treble.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Only way they are doing that is if he has Saudi PIF money in his pocket. That's how they are working LIV golf broadcasting. It's unsustainable even with the "sponsorship" dollars.

 

[hawkman]

Given the UK aren't part of the EU anymore, would it have an impact on the PL? The PL wouldn't be bound by European law

 

[Bradesmaen]

Given the UK aren't part of the EU anymore, would it have impact on the PL? The PL wouldn't be bound by European law

There are some laws that still apply, it's a complicated divorce still going on.

 

[Magma]

without english teams it's still dead in the water. it's targeted to the fair weather fan, it's an impossible sell to people who enjoy traditional league formats and match going fans.

 

[Frank Bunn]

They clearly wanted permanent membership but faced pushback. The proposed system could be a Trojan Horse to bring that in down the track.

The promotion and relegation system could lead to some anomalies. A team could stay in the Super League but be relegated in their domestic league. It's proposed that the bottom 20 clubs drop out of the Super League each season. How do you work out which clubs from 50 domestic leagues replace them?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[moomba]

Interesting to see if there are any FFP implications coming from this.

 

[RPCB]

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Hope the super league begins and all the campaigner teams with campaigner owners * off. Might be the only thing that can save football in the UK for the fans.

 

[chef]

 

[chef]

 

[chef]

 

[moomba]

With the changes to the champions league I'm not sure if there is going to be too much difference between that and a proposed super league.

Hobsons choice between one set of arseholes running the comp and another set of arseholes wanting to run a different comp.

 

[chef]

 

[moomba]

CFG has a minority stake (20%) in Girona iirc. Thought that meant that there wouldn't be any issues.

Red Bull teams seem to have got around it.

 

[RPCB]

CFG has a minority stake (20%) in Girona iirc. Thought that meant that there wouldn't be any issues.

Red Bull teams seem to have got around it.

47% now, after buying a 44.3% stake in Girona in 2017..

 

[Frank Bunn]

47% now, after buying a 44.3% stake in Girona in 2017..

Pep's brother owns another 44.3%.

 

[moomba]

47% now, after buying a 44.3% stake in Girona in 2017..

Must have missed that.

Still a minority stake though.

 

[chef]

Must have missed that.

Still a minority stake though.

Who owns the rest?

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Who owns the rest?

Some Bolivian owns 35%

 

[Frank Bunn]

Who owns the rest?

See above. Pep's brother Pere owns 44.3%, through Girona Football Group.

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[Frank Bunn]

With the changes to the champions league I'm not sure if there is going to be too much difference between that and a proposed super league.

One big difference is the qualification process.

For the Champions League you have to finish near the top of your domestic league (or win the CL or EL).

For the Super League it's proposed that if you do OK in that comp but have a shithouse season at home but you keep your place. For example, Leicester came very close to CL qualification in 20-21 but got relegated two seasons later. They could have been playing in the Super League while also playing in the Championship.

There's also 3 tiers in the Super League - Star League, Gold League and Blue League. Only the 16 teams in the 'Star League' compete for the trophy. If Newcastle had won the PL last season they would have gone into the meh Blue League. While Chelsea, QF in CL but 12th in PL would have kept their place in the Star League.

Like I said, I reckon the proposed system for the Super League is a Trojan Horse for later switching it to permanent membership of clubs based on financials and politics rather than sporting merit.

 

[pantskyle]

Wonder just how watertight those contracts are that the clubs signed.

 

[jod23]

Liverpool released something similar too.