Everton Fans Thread

[Covvy]

First season really following Everton. Love how we play. Hatred building for Liverpool already after only watching a half, espeically after Suarez's celebration after getting a lucky deflection. What a flog!

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

I'm actually going to be sick, this game is killing me. So many emotions...

 

[____]

Great half of football, unlucky for us not to be ahead.

 

[Sheeds]

I thought it was game over. Great character to get back.
Lets go on with it!

Mirallas is causing them trouble but he is struggling after that foul by Suarez.

 

[Sheeds]

We dodged a bullet at the end.
But Suarez should not have been on the pitch.

 

[____]

Still can't believe we had a decision go our way in a Merseyside Derby!

 

[BotsMaster]

All I can say is that I'm relieved we didn't lose.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

****ing hell, we should have won that.

Liverpool are already straight back on the victim train, ignoring the fact that every single thing went there way up until that final decision. No doubt they'll gladly overlook the appalling state of their club and blame the mean old refs again, which I spose is good because they'll keep going nowhere.

We battered them tonight, should have taken all 3.

 

[____]

The rectum hurt on the redshite fans thread is hilarious. They conveniently ignore that Sterling and Suarez should've been sent off. They ignore that Suarez got Rodwell sent off last year when it clearly wasn't a red and changed the match and conveniently ignore the Clattenburg derby.

Yet those redshite sooks can't handle one decision going against them!

Having said that I'm pretty disappointed at the draw even if we did come from 2-0 down as we dominated most of that match.

 

[aNty]

Why did Moyes bring on Gueye for Mirallas? In his five minutes on the pitch Oviedo showed much more than Gueye did in a half of football.

 

[BotsMaster]

Why did Moyes bring on Gueye for Mirallas? In his five minutes on the pitch Oviedo showed much more than Gueye did in a half of football.

Gueye is a lazy footballer. It was a shame that Mirallas went off injured as we would have had the 3 points if he'd stayed on, he was unstoppable in the first half.

The redshite's 2nd goal was a crock of shit, they got a soft freekick when Sterling took a dive and Osman a yellow card. ****in bullshit.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

TBH I thought Gueye was pretty good on the left, certainly better than I thought he'd be. On the right though, he was horrible, and I could have killed him when he was faffing about with it on our own byline.

Having watched Suarez's tackle on Kev again, it is almost as bad as the one on Distin. How he got away with only one yellow from that game is pretty baffling, considering what Osman, Neville and Coleman were booked for.

 

[Sheeds]

Some Liverpool supporters claiming Suarez "slipped onto Distin"
He knew exactly what he was doing.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

Some Liverpool supporters claiming Suarez "slipped onto Distin"
He knew exactly what he was doing.

In that case the linesman just got a twitch in his arm, and accidentally put the flag up. Both of his tackles were very intentional, I'll see if I can find the gifs...

 

[Sheeds]

Both are here.
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/49930-The-Suarez-Stamps-Mirallas-amp-Distin

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

Both are here.
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/49930-The-Suarez-Stamps-Mirallas-amp-Distin

Yep, that's where I saw them

Shame nobody will every remember them or speak of them again.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

These are some of the excuses Liverpool fans have used in discussions with me about the game. I swear 100% of them are true:

- Suarez's goal was onside (fair enough).
- Our second goal came from a throw that should have been theirs.
- Baines should have been sent off for a tackle on Sterling in the lead up to their first goal.
- Jagielka should have been red carded instead of yellow for his mix up with Sterling.
- Suarez's tackle on Distin was accidental.
- Suarez's tackle on Mirallas was accidental.
- Sterling was correctly not sent off.
- Naismith was offside for his goal.
- Phil Neville is a diving cheat.
- Fellaini was impeding players all night and should have been reprimanded.

 

[Cooldude]

These are some of the excuses Liverpool fans have used in discussions with me about the game. I swear 100% of them are true:

- Suarez's goal was onside (fair enough).
- Our second goal came from a throw that should have been theirs.
- Phil Neville is a diving cheat.
- Fellaini was impeding players all night and should have been reprimanded.

These are true

 

[Sheeds]

These are some of the excuses Liverpool fans have used in discussions with me about the game. I swear 100% of them are true:

- Suarez's goal was onside (fair enough).
- Our second goal came from a throw that should have been theirs.
- Baines should have been sent off for a tackle on Sterling in the lead up to their first goal.
- Jagielka should have been red carded instead of yellow for his mix up with Sterling.
- Suarez's tackle on Distin was accidental.
- Suarez's tackle on Mirallas was accidental.
- Sterling was correctly not sent off.
- Naismith was offside for his goal.
- Phil Neville is a diving cheat.
- Fellaini was impeding players all night and should have been reprimanded.

It's magic isn't it.
The good thing about Phil Neville is it was an out of charater one off incident as his career shows. Straight after the game he apologises for his mistake as you would expect from a model professional. Just the polar opposite of Suarez in decency.

What I am surprised has flown under the radar is while Suarez was onside the goal why wasnt the whistle blown before that for the foul on Jagielka. He appeared to have Coates riding him like a horse.

You have to love analysis on Fellaini. He is not allowed to stand there while players do as they please to him, he is expected to pull out a blanket and prepare a picnic lunch for the Liverpool players.

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

These are true

In that case:

- Coates fouled Jagielka in squaring the ball up to Suarez.
- I'd be more inclined to blame whoever let Naismith and Jelavic both run unopposed into the 6 yard box than a linesman's call that nobody disputed.
- Don't pick on the handicapped like that. Phil Neville may be a lot of things, but a cheat he is not.
- Which would then imply that Joe Allen was consistently out muscling Fellaini. I think I know who was doing the scrapping.

I'm not saying that we weren't fortunate to have the goal disallowed. But the difference between us and all the Shite supporters I've encountered is that I'm prepared to admit that, while the others will all swear black and blue that everything went against them all game.

 

[Cooldude]

In that case:

- Coates fouled Jagielka in squaring the ball up to Suarez.
- I'd be more inclined to blame whoever let Naismith and Jelavic both run unopposed into the 6 yard box than a linesman's call that nobody disputed.
- Don't pick on the handicapped like that. Phil Neville may be a lot of things, but a cheat he is not.
- Which would then imply that Joe Allen was consistently out muscling Fellaini. I think I know who was doing the scrapping.

I'm not saying that we weren't fortunate to have the goal disallowed. But the difference between us and all the Shite supporters I've encountered is that I'm prepared to admit that, while the others will all swear black and blue that everything went against them all game.

1. Coates foul was borderline, but if many of your players' challenges weren't fouls in Marriner's eyes then I can see why that wasn't

2. The point is, if the throwin wasn't given wrongly the chance wouldn't even have happened

3. Phil ****ing Neville even came out after the game and admitted to taking a dive, yet you're the one trying to defend him

4. Fellaini and Allen was a mismatch in size, but that doesn't mean Fellaini didn't throw his weight around Allen. And never denied Allen was fouling Fellaini at times, but the foul calls were a little one sided

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

1. Coates foul was borderline, but if many of your players' challenges weren't fouls in Marriner's eyes then I can see why that wasn't

2. The point is, if the throwin wasn't given wrongly the chance wouldn't even have happened

3. Phil ******* Neville even came out after the game and admitted to taking a dive, yet you're the one trying to defend him

4. Fellaini and Allen was a mismatch in size, but that doesn't mean Fellaini didn't throw his weight around Allen. And never denied Allen was fouling Fellaini at times, but the foul calls were a little one sided

1. Fouls like the one Osman was booked for? Fouls like the one on Gerrard that led them to that final chance for Suarez?

2. I understand the point, but if you want to use that logic then you can't ignore the fact that you should have had 9 on the pitch.

3. Oh I'm not defending that dive. It was a shocker, everyone knows it, and he got the appropriate punishment. He's never once done it before in his 500 game career though, so I'm willing to let him off.

4. I'd say that every time Fellaini instigated the scrap, he was punished. Likewise Allen.

 

[Cooldude]

1. Fouls like the one Osman was booked for? Fouls like the one on Gerrard that led them to that final chance for Suarez?

2. I understand the point, but if you want to use that logic then you can't ignore the fact that you should have had 9 on the pitch.

3. Oh I'm not defending that dive. It was a shocker, everyone knows it, and he got the appropriate punishment. He's never once done it before in his 500 game career though, so I'm willing to let him off.

4. I'd say that every time Fellaini instigated the scrap, he was punished. Likewise Allen.

1 and 2: Plenty of fouls far worse were left unpunished, too. If you're gonna pick a few that were punished then complain about the specific ones that should've gotten someone sent off, then I'm afraid you'd have 9 men, too, if you think we'd have 9

3.

The guy's always been a cheat

4. Not everytime, Allen was deservedly punished, but couldn't say Fellaini was, but I'm not fuss over that, it happens, but if you're gonna say Coates fouled, then Fellaini did, too

 

[Toshowyouwhy]

1 and 2: Plenty of fouls far worse were left unpunished, too. If you're gonna pick a few that were punished then complain about the specific ones that should've gotten someone sent off, then I'm afraid you'd have 9 men, too, if you think we'd have 9

3.

The guy's always been a cheat

4. Not everytime, Allen was deservedly punished, but couldn't say Fellaini was, but I'm not fuss over that, it happens, but if you're gonna say Coates fouled, then Fellaini did, too

In what possible way can you say that we deserved to have two players sent off? Suarez was deliberate and vicious on two occasions, and Sterling committed at least two clear yellow card offences.

And it's funny that you'd stick a video of the Clattenburg derby up here.

 

[Cooldude]

In what possible way can you say that we deserved to have two players sent off? Suarez was deliberate and vicious on two occasions, and Sterling committed at least two clear yellow card offences.

And it's funny that you'd stick a video of the Clattenburg derby up here.

Oh don't pretend the likes of Jagielka, Osman and Coleman didn't have more bookable challenges than the ones they had. They were making a few all game

Suarez put his hands up before he put the foot down, some may construe it as accidental, but of course some are also gonna say it's his cynical "acting like I ain't stamping on him but I really am" thing. If the refs were letting things go all game, then he was being consistent by letting that go

Sterling, likewise. He hardly made a challenge 2nd half

You cannot complain about a couple of incidents of our players then go ignore your own players'. Marriner let things go all game, and fair play to him. Don't think Liverpool fans' complaints were with the ref but the lino, but the blueshite fans seem to be countering the obvious lino mistake by pointing out the ref's allegedly disgraceful performance, when he was just being consistent the whole way through