Everton Fans Thread

[Teagueeee15]

Would they be playing the same position? I suspect Walcott would play more up front and Lookman wider.

I'd be happy for Lennon to stay as depth though he's good enough to go to a Championship side and do well to finish his career.

Walcott plays his best IMO in the front third, but if you look at Sam’s history, Walcott ain’t his type of front man. Kevin Davies, Benni McCarthy, Andy Carroll and Benteke are the sort of guys he’s had who can lead the line and get on the end of crosses into the box.

One thing Sam fancies is wingers who can put a ball in from a wide position for the front man to get on the end off. Tosun looks like he fits the mould from YouTube highlights of somebody who can get on the end of a cross and I just think Walcott fits the mould of a Big Sam guy who can get the ball into the box from a wide position.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I just don’t understand why Lookman isn’t getting minutes.

Why isn’t Vlasic even on the bench?

Yannick should be playing the U/23s, he’s nowhere near it. Feel for him.

Why take Cenk off when he was looking okay?

Why haven’t we signed a LB?

Why is Jagielka still a thing?

 

[ossie_21]

I just don’t understand why Lookman isn’t getting minutes.

Why isn’t Vlasic even on the bench?

Yannick should be playing the U/23s, he’s nowhere near it. Feel for him.

Why take Cenk off when he was looking okay?

Why haven’t we signed a LB?

Why is Jagielka still a thing?

Don’t think there’s much point following them for the rest of the season, we are still a shambles. No shot on target yet again. 3-0 down, bring on a mid more defensive than McCarthy instead of someone like Lookman to maybe give us some hope of looking like we showed up.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Woeful substitutions, all three of them.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Even with a supposed better striker, 0 on target. On my side yet? i may be slightly drunk from wembley

 

[ossie_21]

Some epl stats to depress you all further.
0 shots on target for the 3rd time in 5 games
4 shots on target in last 5 games
21 shots on target in last 9 games since Fat Sam was appointed, highest was 7 v Swansea
1 goal in last 5 games

For a quick comparison, Spurs had 10 on target alone last night & 23 in their last 3 games for 7 goals. Even West Ham have had 23 in their last 5 games for 12 goals

We are just a side lacking intent & afraid to take the game on. Was really looking forward to Barkley coming back in as at least he would drive at players with the ball, we don’t have anyone who does that regularly. Presuming we will get Walcott, our only hope is playing something like this:

Pickford

Kenny, Holgate, Keane, imaginary left back as Walsh is too incompetent

Gana

Walcott, Rooney, Bolasie

Sigurdsson

Tosun

Siggy in the #10 role, we play a man down from the start of isolated on the left. Lookman, Vlasic & Lennon able to rotate through with Bolasie etc. Rooney in his deeper role he automatically goes to wherever he’s meant to play, Gana protecting the back for on his own instead of someone next to him leaving us too light to go forward.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Some epl stats to depress you all further.
0 shots on target for the 3rd time in 5 games
4 shots on target in last 5 games
21 shots on target in last 9 games since Fat Sam was appointed, highest was 7 v Swansea
1 goal in last 5 games

For a quick comparison, Spurs had 10 on target alone last night & 23 in their last 3 games for 7 goals. Even West Ham have had 23 in their last 5 games for 12 goals

We are just a side lacking intent & afraid to take the game on. Was really looking forward to Barkley coming back in as at least he would drive at players with the ball, we don’t have anyone who does that regularly. Presuming we will get Walcott, our only hope is playing something like this:

Pickford

Kenny, Holgate, Keane, imaginary left back as Walsh is too incompetent

Gana

Walcott, Rooney, Bolasie

Sigurdsson

Tosun

Siggy in the #10 role, we play a man down from the start of isolated on the left. Lookman, Vlasic & Lennon able to rotate through with Bolasie etc. Rooney in his deeper role he automatically goes to wherever he’s meant to play, Gana protecting the back for on his own instead of someone next to him leaving us too light to go forward.

I think you're on the right track here.

Before the game this morning I was admittedly laughing at the idea of Everton picking up Walcott, I guess that's the goons anti bias at play but he has what you need and don't have. Pace and can score goals, he'd also have a point to prove with time running out for Russia 2018 squad selection.

Agree on Sigurdsson as well. Koeman and now Sam aren't learning from the failings of AVB and Sherwood. He was sold as he couldn't play wide left.
Play him centrally or you're wasting him.

Can't wait to see Coleman back btw, one of the better RB's in the league before his injury.

 

[Teagueeee15]

Some epl stats to depress you all further.
0 shots on target for the 3rd time in 5 games
4 shots on target in last 5 games
21 shots on target in last 9 games since Fat Sam was appointed, highest was 7 v Swansea
1 goal in last 5 games

For a quick comparison, Spurs had 10 on target alone last night & 23 in their last 3 games for 7 goals. Even West Ham have had 23 in their last 5 games for 12 goals

We are just a side lacking intent & afraid to take the game on. Was really looking forward to Barkley coming back in as at least he would drive at players with the ball, we don’t have anyone who does that regularly. Presuming we will get Walcott, our only hope is playing something like this:

Pickford

Kenny, Holgate, Keane, imaginary left back as Walsh is too incompetent

Gana

Walcott, Rooney, Bolasie

Sigurdsson

Tosun

Siggy in the #10 role, we play a man down from the start of isolated on the left. Lookman, Vlasic & Lennon able to rotate through with Bolasie etc. Rooney in his deeper role he automatically goes to wherever he’s meant to play, Gana protecting the back for on his own instead of someone next to him leaving us too light to go forward.

Ever since Moshiri came with his money, there doesn’t seem to have been any sort of plan from Walsh nor any of the managers about building a squad that can achieve something.

What I would have done in the early days was to use the money to build the foundations by signing younger players who would grow into something and then about 24 months into the plan, spend the money to bring in older more experienced players to fill in the holes that you have. This is what SOS is doing at Carlton and is a blueprint that would have Everton in a much better situation than they are now.

Instead what Koeman did was bring in a bunch of experienced players right away that would provide a short term boost in results compared to Martinez, allowing him to move onto a better job, which he stuffed up by pissing off Lukaku with his average signings and pissing Barkley off by trying to show him whose boss. The end result is we are pretty much where we are when Martinez left (the difference being we could score then but not defend, so we’ve gone full circle now).

 

[Bradesmaen]

Sig-turd-sson was at his uninfluential best again. He's literally just a dead ball man. Look at Wilshere for Arsenal at the moment, hes what we need in the middle.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Sig-turd-sson was at his uninfluential best again. He's literally just a dead ball man. Look at Wilshere for Arsenal at the moment, hes what we need in the middle.

He gets wasted by not playing centrally and having to cover Cuco.

 

[Bradesmaen]

He gets wasted by not playing centrally and having to cover Cuco.

He still has to have an influence. Cenk had 5 less touches than Sigurdsson last night and was on for 30 mins less.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

He still has to have an influence. Cenk had 5 less touches than Sigurdsson last night and was on for 30 mins less.

He’s not even close to the biggest issue we have in the squad. We really need a LB, as much as I’d welcome Walcott if we’re not working on defensive support then I question the sanity of those in charge.

 

[Bradesmaen]

He’s not even close to the biggest issue we have in the squad. We really need a LB, as much as I’d welcome Walcott if we’re not working on defensive support then I question the sanity of those in charge.

We have many issues because they made the wrong targets, yes. But however, he is an issue. He cost too much, is slow and does not know how to control a game. If he could do that, we wouldn't desperately need a LB because we'd actually have the ball. Walcott would add nothing to this team. It would be yet again us buying average players for expensive amounts. I mean ffs he can't get a game ahead of Iwobi.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

We have many issues because they made the wrong targets, yes. But however, he is an issue. He cost too much, is slow and does not know how to control a game. If he could do that, we wouldn't desperately need a LB because we'd actually have the ball. Walcott would add nothing to this team. It would be yet again us buying average players for expensive amounts. I mean ffs he can't get a game ahead of Iwobi.

I don't mind Walcott, but I agree - he is way overpriced for what he is

And absolutely - if the midfield were better at retaining possession, our defence - and indeed our keeper - would be tested less than they are now and we'd be conceding fewer goals and probably getting more points. I still would prefer better depth at the back for LB and CB - as Jags/Williams aren't long term then focus on who's in front of them. Gueye is solid but aside from him in terms of defensive mids we don't have much else - Besic has shown glimpses but can't get on the pitch for a number of reasons & McCarthy is the same - though doesn't strike me as the same mould as Gueye who has been a shining light in this dark period for the club

 

[Jozzy]

We have many issues because they made the wrong targets, yes. But however, he is an issue. He cost too much, is slow

. WalcottIt would be yet again us buying average players for expensive amounts. .

Walcott is not slow mate...

I don't mind Walcott, but I agree - he is way overpriced for what he is

£20m in the current market really isn't much in that much.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Walcott is not slow mate...



£20m in the current market really isn't much in that much.

I think you need to re-read what I wrote. Lookman is as good as Walcott and we already own him

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Lookman as good as a bloke who scored 19 goals last season?

Ademola is very exciting but only produces in bursts at this stage.

 

[ossie_21]

Walcott should be done within the next 24-48 hours. Get a left back in, Klassen & likely Sandro shipped off & bring in an attacking midfielder and that should do until the end of the season

 

[Bradesmaen]

Lookman as good as a bloke who scored 19 goals last season?

Ademola is very exciting but only produces in bursts at this stage.

Walcott has been shit this season whenever he has played. He's over the hill.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Welcome Theo!

 

[Jozzy]

Walcott has been shit this season whenever he has played. He's over the hill.

Has played a whole 63 minutes in the Prem this season, how can you get a gauge from that?

Has 5 assists and scored 3 goals from 5 apps in Europe for Arsenal this season.

Obviously we've had far our exciting transfers but this one I'm happy with, welcome Theo!

 

[ossie_21]

Welcome Theo!

For someone not an out & out striker with an average better than goal every 4 games, he seems to cop a lot of shit.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Has played a whole 63 minutes in the Prem this season, how can you get a gauge from that?

Has 5 assists and scored 3 goals from 5 apps in Europe for Arsenal this season.

Obviously we've had far our exciting transfers but this one I'm happy with, welcome Theo!

His league cup play and FA Cup.

 

[Norfolk & Clew]

God I wish Sandro and Klaasen were given an opportunity to find some form, even if it was on loan or in the U23's. Playing U23's seemed to work wonders for Niasse, as did playing for Hull on loan.
Bloody hard to find form when you're not playing, I don't think we should look to sell either of them after 6 months, especially Sandro.

 

[ossie_21]

http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/everton-fc/25136-allardyce-rules-out-further-everton-signings/

Lol, surely taking the piss.