SA Expiation Notice Help

[crazyman27]

Got done for 'possessing alcohol in a dry zone' at schoolies in Victor ($190 fine). Got the expiation notice a few weeks later. Then another week later I get a letter saying there was a 'clerical error' in the first expiation notice and that it had to be withdrawn and a new notice issued.

Anyway I get the new notice yesterday with a letter saying the reason the first notice had to be withdrawn was because of an incorrect due date. Now the date the first notice was issued was the 29th of November 2009, and the due date for payment was the 5th of January 2010. The date the second notice was issued was the 29th of December 2009 and the due date for payment is the 29th of January 2010.

It's my understanding that initially you are given 30 days to expiate an offence (however in never actually states this on the notice). With the first notice I was technically given 37 days to pay the fine, the reason for this notice being withdrawn. I only received the reissued notice on the 4th of January, hence only giving me 25 days to pay.

Now the reason I'm not happy is because it never actually says on the notice that you have 30 days to pay the fine, there is no timeframe to pay mentioned. So the original notice should never have been withdrawn because there was no error in the notice. On both the original and reissued notices my address (road and hometown) is spelt wrong, does that mean the notices should be withdrawn as they contain a 'clerical error'?

Anyway, I'm pissed off. Anybody else had a similiar experience?

 

[Strike Swiftly]

Im guessing the payment period is 30 days from issue. The time it takes in post doesnt count, cos the time it takes to arrive varies on a number of factors.

I wouldnt get too upset, If anything mate, youve had more time to pay the fine than you were supposed to. You have realistically had about 60 days to pay the bugger.

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Just pay the ****er and get over it.

 

[kaysee]

Just pay the ****er and get over it.

^ THIS... you did the crime, got busted... now 'man up' and do the time.

 

[omit]

or fight it like a bitch and still end up having to pay the fine

 

[Bert1]

Jump on the next flight out of the country.

 

[crazyman27]

^ THIS... you did the crime, got busted... now 'man up' and do the time.

Never said anything about not paying the fine...

Enforcing the dry zone law at Schoolies is just revenue raising anyway. Pretty poor considering most of the people at schoolies are fresh out of school, unemployed and just trying to have a good time.

 

[damochandler]

Just pay the fine .


if you don't, it will come back to hite you on the arse

 

[crazyman27]

Just pay the fine .


if you don't, it will come back to hite you on the arse

Again, when have I ever mentioned I intend to not pay the fine???

 

[Illinois Nazi]

Never said anything about not paying the fine...

Enforcing the dry zone law at Schoolies is just revenue raising anyway. Pretty poor considering most of the people at schoolies are fresh out of school, unemployed and just trying to have a good time.

As well as under the legal age for drinking...

None of those reasons are a good excuse for anyone else to break the law, what makes schoolies so special that they should be exempt?

 

[crazyman27]

As well as under the legal age for drinking...

None of those reasons are a good excuse for anyone else to break the law, what makes schoolies so special that they should be exempt?

I was 18 at schoolies.

I just think they could be a lot more lenient. I know two other guys who got straight up fines, could have just received a caution.

Considering most schoolies have been at school full time for 13 years, surely they deserve 3 days to let their hair down (and not be constantly under the scrutiny of the 'fun-police' - the police presence at schoolies was ridiculous).

The fact is I wasn't vandalising anything, wasn't starting fights, wasn't selling pills, never abused the cop and I get hit with a $190 fine.

 

[HollyLovesWCE]

All I got out of this thread was schoolies in Victor... can't wait til end of this year for my turn! Was it worth the fine anyway?

 

[Illinois Nazi]

I was 18 at schoolies.

I just think they could be a lot more lenient. I know two other guys who got straight up fines, could have just received a caution.

Considering most schoolies have been at school full time for 13 years, surely they deserve 3 days to let their hair down (and not be constantly under the scrutiny of the 'fun-police' - the police presence at schoolies was ridiculous).

The fact is I wasn't vandalising anything, wasn't starting fights, wasn't selling pills, never abused the cop and I get hit with a $190 fine.

Well, when you grow up you'll realise why the rest of the world doesn't feel it has to stop for schoolies.

 

[damochandler]

I was 18 at schoolies.

I just think they could be a lot more lenient. I know two other guys who got straight up fines, could have just received a caution.

Considering most schoolies have been at school full time for 13 years, surely they deserve 3 days to let their hair down (and not be constantly under the scrutiny of the 'fun-police' - the police presence at schoolies was ridiculous).

The fact is I wasn't vandalising anything, wasn't starting fights, wasn't selling pills, never abused the cop and I get hit with a $190 fine.

the question is

did you know that there was going to be non alcoholic areas?

was there signs posted saying this is a dry area?

 

[~TheScout~]

I was 18 at schoolies.

I just think they could be a lot more lenient. I know two other guys who got straight up fines, could have just received a caution.

Considering most schoolies have been at school full time for 13 years, surely they deserve 3 days to let their hair down (and not be constantly under the scrutiny of the 'fun-police' - the police presence at schoolies was ridiculous).

The fact is I wasn't vandalising anything, wasn't starting fights, wasn't selling pills, never abused the cop and I get hit with a $190 fine.

Haha.
Yeah its a tough life. School is hard.
What you need to learn is that when you make a mistake in the real world, you need to negotiate the consequences.
All you have done in this thread is make excuses and question the system.

 

[crazyman27]

All I got out of this thread was schoolies in Victor... can't wait til end of this year for my turn! Was it worth the fine anyway?

Yea you'll have an awesome time, just watch out for the fun-police.

Well, when you grow up you'll realise why the rest of the world doesn't feel it has to stop for schoolies.

I didn't know the rest of the world did stop for schoolies?

Haha.
Yeah its a tough life. School is hard.
What you need to learn is that when you make a mistake in the real world, you need to negotiate the consequences.
All you have done in this thread is make excuses and question the system.

Making it sound like I murdered someone

I can't believe I'm getting so much grief about this. If you actually read the opening post you'll see I was actually complaining about the notice being reissued because of the original notice having the wrong due date. Can somebody tell me why the due date was wrong?

 

[craffles]

Making it sound like I murdered someone

I can't believe I'm getting so much grief about this. If you actually read the opening post you'll see I was actually complaining about the notice being reissued because of the original notice having the wrong due date. Can somebody tell me why the due date was wrong?

but then you implied that schoolies were above the law and that they should be exempt from public alcohol consumption laws because they had "worked hard for 13 years". That kind of attitude is typical of our "spoilt" generation (yes im not much older then you). I'm all for a celebratory time away with mates to conclude your studies, some drinks to celebrate etc but schoolies has become an alcohol/drug fuelled teen violence and vandalism rampage. Our government should in no way make any exemptions for any of these behaviors be it schoolies, toolies, general citizens, myself or bert f**king newton.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

It was probably an incorrect due date due to a typo, big deal. There is a thing in law called a statute of limitations, and if the offence is within it, which i bet it is, they can reissue the notice. Anyways, as i said, he realistically did you a favor. His typo allowed you another thirty odd days to pay it, so suck it up princess and be a little appreciative haha.

Get over it.

 

[crazyman27]

but then you implied that schoolies were above the law and that they should be exempt from public alcohol consumption laws because they had "worked hard for 13 years". That kind of attitude is typical of our "spoilt" generation (yes im not much older then you). I'm all for a celebratory time away with mates to conclude your studies, some drinks to celebrate etc but schoolies has become an alcohol/drug fuelled teen violence and vandalism rampage. Our government should in no way make any exemptions for any of these behaviors be it schoolies, toolies, general citizens, myself or bert f**king newton.

The only reason I did this is because people instantly assumed I was complaining about getting the fine in the first place (which I wasn't).

I didn't see any violence or vandalism happening, maybe because I was in the tents with all of the other schoolies most of the time enjoying the music and entertainment I paid $70 to see.

It was probably an incorrect due date due to a typo, big deal. There is a thing in law called a statute of limitations, and if the offence is within it, which i bet it is, they can reissue the notice. Anyways, as i said, he realistically did you a favor. His typo allowed you another thirty odd days to pay it, so suck it up princess and be a little appreciative haha.

Get over it.

I wanna know how it was a typo?? Seemed fine to me. I can only assume the first time it was issued, the person who issued it realized it would take a few days for the notice to reach me in the mail, so they allowed a few days for this when setting the due date. Hence I would actually have 30 days, from receiving the notice, to pay the fine.

 

[Macca19]

I can't believe I'm getting so much grief about this. If you actually read the opening post you'll see I was actually complaining about the notice being reissued because of the original notice having the wrong due date. Can somebody tell me why the due date was wrong?

Youre getting twice as long as everyone else in the country to pay a fine and youre complaining about it?

And laws are laws for a reason. Everyone knows its a dry zone there, you knowingly broke that and got caught. Bad luck, take it on the chin.

 

[crazyman27]

Youre getting twice as long as everyone else in the country to pay a fine and youre complaining about it?

And laws are laws for a reason. Everyone knows its a dry zone there, you knowingly broke that and got caught. Bad luck, take it on the chin.

Any chance of a caution instead of a straight up fine?

 

[Macca19]

Maybe the cop had given out 100 cautions already that day and was sick of giving em out.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

You need to take responsibility mate and stop whinging. You had longer to pay than you should have!

 

[craffles]

You need to take responsibility mate and stop whinging. You had longer to pay than you should have!

nah let him keep digging, its quite funny

but seriously, ive copped a few fines before and am actually sitting on a stupid feetn the seat of a train one right now ($172, fairly ridiculous). no point whinging, get on with it, pay it and shut up.

 

[flight23]

i love bigfooty on the moral high horse