Competitions Fantasy Elite Draft Game

[azza77]

And yes, just to confirm, draft at 7pm Adelaide time. So be ready with your game faces on!

 

[Mego Red]

Okay - I think that's 6.30 in Brisbane ...

 

[azza77]

THIS IS A MUST READ. PLEASE TRY TO READ THROUGH THIS THOROUGHLY BEFORE THE DRAFT.

arusso707 #VAN DangerSloane hdecure Allefgib Kristof Walker Texas Danger Danoz Geoffa32 Bacon8

As I am league commissioner and have almighty ruling powers, Just inbox me and if it's urgent I can give you my number. I try to check this thread and my BF inbox as much as possible, but if you feel the matter is urgent, then feel free to flick me a message.

I HIGHLY recommend you guys keep a very close eye on both this thread and the UF league as well throughout the season. Im looking at you Allefgib



Okay lads so....

- Draft time is at 7pm Adelaide time. Please be ready and adjust for your own time zones etc etc
- Fairly sure the life draft room opens 30 mins prior to the first pick taking place, so you can enter and make sure your auto pick selections and all those settings are set to what you want. PLEASEEEE make sure you read the fine print and have the right option selected. For most of you, it should be "off" for majority of the night. Im think this year there is also a chat box for some good ol' banter during the course of the draft.

- 22 players on a field with 4 emergencies and 4 bench players. DT scoring system as decided by the league.
- 6 backs
- 7 midfielders
- 2 rucks
- 6 forwards
- 1 utility (for those that still dont know, this slot on you're team sheet can be filled by a player of any position. Beware there is no emergency for this position so tread carefully). IF YOU WANT TO DISPUTE THIS TELL ME. I think it adds some spice to the league though, so please dont

- Every round will be played, including bye rounds.
- There will be 3 weeks of finals. The top 6 go through with 1st and 2nd getting the first week off, while the next 4 play off in an elimination final. Winners progress to a prelim vs 1st and 2nd, and the winners there obviously go through to the final.

- Captains ARE enabled. If you dont have Swan, Gary or Pendles then tough. Use your brain and find someone else.

- Player positions ARE LOCKED. What this means is that, during the season, if a player moves down back or plays a lot of time up forward, they can have dual position status given to them. For example last year, Kade Simpson went from being a C to a B/C. This system is updated every 3 rounds by UF and players are given extra positions as viewed by UF. No positional status is ever taken away.
I personally like to have this off as I think players should be locked in the positions they are drafted for. While you may have some small info on a player that you think will probably be given an extra position, it ruins the game imo and the negatives outweigh the positives. For example last year my friends league had it on, and stupid positional changes came up, like Dion Prestia who was averaging 95, all of a sudden randomly being given DEF eligibility and the player owning him striking gold by pure luck, even though he barely played there. For reasons like this, I think its best to keep it off and keep original positions. To be honest I think its a load of crap and really has the potential to ruin a league. PLEASE POST ASAP IF YOU WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CHANGE THIS.


- Trade reviews will be handled by the league commissioner (me i guess). Coaches vote can be selected as an option, but this can sometimes be very time consuming trying to get a vote from everyone. I think that all trades should be put through, if both parties think all is fair then they should have the right to trade. If anyone deems a trade to be unfair however and wishes to dispute it, please post it in here or contact me and we will discuss it as a league. Trade deadline is round 19, the very last round before finals begin. This is the latest it can be pushed back to as a league setting, so dont ask for it to be changed

- The team finalization will be exactly like dream team. Teams are locked out at the first bounce of the first game of every round. Rounds that have games on odd days such as Monday / Thursday will be rolling lockouts. Very similar to DT again, only some of your players will be locked away, and the rest of your team can be edited accordingly, so that you can still make changes when team selections come out. Tip to all players, this enables you to use both C/VC loopholes and sometimes emergency loop holes if you are smart.

- The waiver wire will be firstly determined by a reverse draft order. Therefore Walker Texas Danger has the first option on the waiver and hdecure having pick 10. This is rolling draft system, so once you use your pick, you move to the bottom of the list and receive 10th preference, while everyone else moves up 1 slot. Players that are in the free agency pool and not picked up by any manager going into the first game of each round will become restricted free agents over the weekend while fixtures take place. Free agents can be signed right up until the first bounce of the weekend as well. THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART: The free agency market opens up at MIDNIGHT MELBOURNE TIME THE DAY AFTER THE LAST GAME OF THE ROUND. This time cannot be changed. Therefore if the last game is on the Sunday, restricted free agents then become free agents again at 11:30pm Adelaide time on Monday night. THIS MEANS YOU HAVE A LITTLE OVER 24 HOURS TO PUT IN A WAIVER REQUEST FOR UNOWNED PLAYERS THAT HAVE ATTRACTED YOUR INTEREST OVER THE WEEKEND.

- When a player is delisted by another manager, they enter the market as RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS and will maintain this status for exactly 2 days. This means coaches have 48 hours to put in a waiver request if they wish to sign this player to their team.

- So far, I have selected NO LIMIT on free agency/restricted free agency signings or trades. NOTE ULTIAMTE FOOTY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SIGN AND THEN DELIST MULTIPLE PLAYERS BEFORE LOCKOUT SO THAT OTHER MANAGERS CANNOT PICKUP THESE PLAYERS BEFORE THE FIXTURE FOR THE WEEKEND BEGINS. EVEN IF YOU DELIST THEM THEY WILL BECOME FREE AGENTS RATHER THAN RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS. So if you try to be a cheap **** Ultimate Footy is already one step ahead of you. You will also receive a slap on the hand from me

- There is a can't cut list, meaning that you cannot delist your 10 best players (from memory, dont quote me on that figure) based on average at any point during the season. If Injury or suspension strikers, UF will alter this and premium players will be able to be delisted accordingly. If the players also falls out of form and their average drops considerably, falling out of the top 10, they will be able to be delisted. This prevents that the bottom dwellers of our league being able to cut their whole team and creating a completely mad and utterly ridiculous scramble for players come finals time.

- Ladder tie breakers will be determined by percentage as per usual.

I think that's everything folks

 

[azza77]

SUGGESTION:

Would you guys like to put some money down on this and turn it into a cash league to really add some coals to the fire?

I'd be keen if others were. Entry fee doesn't have to be all that large. Some winnings are better than just bragging rights

This doesn't have to be sorted before draft night and can be done later on. Let me know what you guys think

 

[Vantz]

arusso707 maybe think about removing your number. You can always send those details in a Private Message. Remember this is the internet and no I won't be paying money to verse people I hardly know.

I think you're forgetting the majority of us have played a draft league together last year (8 out of 10) and you're a new inclusion to that group.

 

[Hank93]

SUGGESTION:

Would you guys like to put some money down on this and turn it into a cash league to really add some coals to the fire?

I'd be keen if others were. Entry fee doesn't have to be all that large. Some winnings are better than just bragging rights

This doesn't have to be sorted before draft night and can be done later on. Let me know what you guys think

Nope.

 

[Mego Red]

I thought captains ruined it last year. Disappointing. It will drastically change the first round, as you MUST get a captain then, instead of looking outside the midfielders to get value in other positions.

arusso707

 

[DangerSloane]

I thought captains ruined it last year. Disappointing. It will drastically change the first round, as you MUST get a captain then, instead of looking outside the midfielders to get value in other positions.

arusso707

Not true at all sorry to say.
I picked Goddard with my first pick in a very similar league last year and won it.

 

[DangerSloane]

Agree no money in this one.
I think the trades can be put to coaches vote. I think it only requires 3 or 4 votes for the trade to be veto'ed

 

[azza77]

Yeah took my number down. Was fairly tired last night and not thinking, forgot that anyone really could access this thread. If you need me then don't hesitate to contact me.


And geez boys don't get too offended by the money thing, was only a suggestion would definitely have let allefgib or someone a lot more trustworthy handle something like that if we did. Being new here and league commissioner already is enough. Was only thinking like a $25 dollar fee and winner takes all $250.

But I guess not and that's fine by me. I'm just happy we have this thing up and running in the first place

 

[azza77]

I thought captains ruined it last year. Disappointing. It will drastically change the first round, as you MUST get a captain then, instead of looking outside the midfielders to get value in other positions.

arusso707

As much as I encourage you guys to dispute any rules at all if you're not happy, have to agree with DangerSloane here. Captains certainly make the games more fun and strategic also. Don't worry, at pick 8 while you won't jag a set and forget captain, you can still pick up 2 very good captain options that I wouldn't even hesitate to captain if it was DT. In my league last year the teams that picked Swan and Gary finished 6th and 8th respectively.

Don't stress you'll be alright mate

 

[Allefgib]

Mate... you can barely trust me to read the thread and you want me to be in charge of money..

I'm a no on cash. If everyone else was keen I'd do it, but my opinion is I'd rather not.

I've read all your spiel above. Okay with most of it.
Captains - Happy to see them out. Will cope if they stay in. Please confirm by 6:30pm which it is as will obviously affect everyones first pick.
Locking positions - you're first sentence was a little confusing. My undertanding is that positions are LOCKED. We won't see position changes during the season with current settings. That sounds simplest. I am open to seeing that change if we have a few pushing for it to. I'm not pushing, just curious to see how that will change things.
On the waiver thing - sounds like its not early bird gets the worm? Where you end up on the drafting list (updated as you pick up FA?) determines who gets the player if multiple teams express an interest?

 

[Allefgib]

As much as I encourage you guys to dispute any rules at all if you're not happy, have to agree with DangerSloane here. Captains certainly make the games more fun and strategic also. Don't worry, at pick 8 while you won't jag a set and forget captain, you can still pick up 2 very good captain options that I wouldn't even hesitate to captain if it was DT. In my league last year the teams that picked Swan and Gary finished 6th and 8th respectively.

Don't stress you'll be alright mate

Should I take this as confirmation Captains are IN?

 

[DangerSloane]

Mate... you can barely trust me to read the thread and you want me to be in charge of money..

I'm a no on cash. If everyone else was keen I'd do it, but my opinion is I'd rather not.

I've read all your spiel above. Okay with most of it.
Captains - Happy to see them out. Will cope if they stay in. Please confirm by 6:30pm which it is as will obviously affect everyones first pick.
Locking positions - you're first sentence was a little confusing. My undertanding is that positions are LOCKED. We won't see position changes during the season with current settings. That sounds simplest. I am open to seeing that change if we have a few pushing for it to. I'm not pushing, just curious to see how that will change things.
On the waiver thing - sounds like its not early bird gets the worm? Where you end up on the drafting list (updated as you pick up FA?) determines who gets the player if multiple teams express an interest?

Waivers are only in play when someone drops a player or immediately after the draft.
After the 2 or 3 day period after the draft, every unpicked player becomes a FA and its first in best dressed.
All players will sit as a Free Agent unless someone had dropped them in the past 2 days.

 

[Bacon8]

I'm okay with captains, but would prefer the player positions to be open.

If you do grab a midfielder, who then plays in the backs, you want to be able to take advantage of that. If they arent a pure midfielder during the season, you become disadvantaged.

 

[DangerSloane]

I'm okay with captains, but would prefer the player positions to be open.

If you do grab a midfielder, who then plays in the backs, you want to be able to take advantage of that. If they arent a pure midfielder during the season, you become disadvantaged.

I'm not fussed on positions.
I generally agree with you Bacon8 that you should be rewarded if your player is playing antoher position.

 

[Mego Red]

Not true at all sorry to say.
I picked Goddard with my first pick in a very similar league last year and won it.

Then you must have been playing some idiots. ;-)

The difference between the fourth best mid and the seventh best mid is ten points. That becomes twenty points with captains.

Without the captaincy advantage, choosing between Beams and Goddard would be difficult - once you HAVE to get a captain, it's really not a choice at all. Those five extra points Beams gets are essential once they're doubled.

 

[DangerSloane]

Then you must have been playing some idiots. ;-)

The difference between the fourth best mid and the seventh best mid is ten points. That becomes twenty points with captains.

Without the captaincy advantage, choosing between Beams and Goddard would be difficult - once you HAVE to get a captain, it's really not a choice at all. Those five extra points Beams gets are essential once they're doubled.

And the difference between dangerfield and the next best forward will be 10 points also.
Remembering that your pick at number 10 also gets 11th pick
So you could get Dangerfield and Selwood vs the number 1 pick who gets Swan and then has to pick an average forward to fill that position.

 

[DangerSloane]

Then you must have been playing some idiots. ;-)

The difference between the fourth best mid and the seventh best mid is ten points. That becomes twenty points with captains.

Without the captaincy advantage, choosing between Beams and Goddard would be difficult - once you HAVE to get a captain, it's really not a choice at all. Those five extra points Beams gets are essential once they're doubled.

Fact is the 20th best mid is going to get you 100 a game anyway.
Any captain scoring 100 per week is fine.
Last year I had Goddard, Watson and Scott Selwood who rotated through depending on opponent.

 

[azza77]

Mate... you can barely trust me to read the thread and you want me to be in charge of money..

Haha very true

Locking positions - you're first sentence was a little confusing. My undertanding is that positions are LOCKED. We won't see position changes during the season with current settings. That sounds simplest. I am open to seeing that change if we have a few pushing for it to. I'm not pushing, just curious to see how that will change things.

If you do grab a midfielder, who then plays in the backs, you want to be able to take advantage of that. If they arent a pure midfielder during the season, you become disadvantaged.

Player positions are locked yes. What Bacon8 mentioned is one the strongest points for, however im just speaking from experience here. Last year while some people did benefit from the rule, there were a lot of questionable changes to the system and it really toyed with the league. There seemed to be more disadvantages to players than advantages. Also for example, last year there was a situation where my friend traded Kade Simpson who was a simple 85 averaging midfielder, and he then became a B and the other player struck gold. Like I said, in my experience, keeping player positions locked is a fairer system overall, but Im happy to do what others want.

On the waiver thing - sounds like its not early bird gets the worm? Where you end up on the drafting list (updated as you pick up FA?) determines who gets the player if multiple teams express an interest?

Like I said come round 1 the Waiver system is almost like a mini draft, with a reverse draft order and Texas Danger having pick 10 in the draft getting pick 1 on the waiver wire. During the week, all unowned players will be listed as free agents and it is first in, first serve. However, on weekends when scoring takes place, OR if a player is delisted, they become restricted free agents. Managers can put in requests for these players, and the person with the highest waiver pick at the time wins out. Like i said, when you use your waiver pick, you then drop down to 10 and everyone else moves up.

 

[azza77]

Should I take this as confirmation Captains are IN?

No no no certainly not. Im more than happy to change this option based on the opinion of the league.

Then you must have been playing some idiots. ;-)

The difference between the fourth best mid and the seventh best mid is ten points. That becomes twenty points with captains.

Without the captaincy advantage, choosing between Beams and Goddard would be difficult - once you HAVE to get a captain, it's really not a choice at all. Those five extra points Beams gets are essential once they're doubled.

Fact is the 20th best mid is going to get you 100 a game anyway.
Any captain scoring 100 per week is fine.
Last year I had Goddard, Watson and Scott Selwood who rotated through depending on opponent.

You both raise very good points and I will put this option down to a vote since it seems to be casting a bit of dispute. Again, I have played 3 years of Ultimate Footy and speaking from experience we have never really noticed a dominance from captaincy and the issue has never been raised to be completely honest. You're forgetting there are 21 other players playing, and it more often than not comes down to your bottom 6-8 players that decide the fixture rather than your captaincy. That is reliant on a lot of factors though, and I will happily admit I've used the captaincy option to jag a win out from underneath my opponent.

Like Dangersloane said, while having an early pick nets you a week in, week out captain, a later pick in the draft gets you a solid 100-110 captain option, while also having the chance to grab one of the rare premium forwards/defenders in the game where you make up points lost from captaincy here. Ive also found captains in certain weeks can really act as a strategical game changer if you play your cards right.

Similar to DangerSloane, last year with pick 6 I selected Cotchin, Cox, Scott Selwood. Ended up trading Cotchin and getting Barlow luckily enough for me. Going into each week I have 2 midfielders averaging 105-110 as captaincy options, as well as Cox who is a very solid option depending on opposition. Each week i rotated mostly between these 3 depending on form, scoring history and opponents they were playing. I had no trouble really and ended up finishing 3rd. Given that I may have been a tad fortunate getting a player like Scooter in the 3rd round, if you draft well then you shouldn't have a problem.


But again, I am more than willing to put this down to a vote. Do agree that if captains are off, it will make the first round very interesting indeed and change things completely.

 

[Hank93]

Better be quick cause my first pick could drastically change on this captain vote

 

[azza77]

Better be quick cause my first pick could drastically change on this captain vote

What should we do if we dont get votes from all 10 coaches in time, or its split down the middle? Keep it as captains on?

Im saying now, this poll closes at 6pm to give managers enough time to adjust their strategies.





CAPTAIN OPTION VOTE:

Yes to captains:
-


No to captains
-

Please copy, edit and re-post this with your vote.

 

[Hank93]

What should we do if we dont get votes from all 10 coaches in time, or its split down the middle? Keep it as captains on?

Im saying now, this poll closes at 6pm to give managers enough time to adjust their strategies.





CAPTAIN OPTION VOTE:

Yes to captains:
- hdecure


No to captains
-

Please copy, edit and re-post this with your vote.

 

[DangerSloane]

What should we do if we dont get votes from all 10 coaches in time, or its split down the middle? Keep it as captains on?

Im saying now, this poll closes at 6pm to give managers enough time to adjust their strategies.





CAPTAIN OPTION VOTE:

Yes to captains:
- hdecure
- DangerSloane


No to captains
-

Please copy, edit and re-post this with your vote.