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Ron The Bear said:
Really? He's effectively telling RA his principles aren't for sale. You can disagree with the principles but you have to give him credit for stoicism.
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Hitler was principled, and Bin Laden too if you need another example. Do you cheer them on for holding onto their principles in the face of widespread condemnation?

The strength in which Folau holds onto his principles and faith far exceeds his intelligence, and I give no credit to people who steadfastly hold onto stupidity.

If I were to argue with you for weeks on end about a belief that 1+1=11, would you give me credit for being strong in my faith?
 
iameviljez said:
I should add to that, that there is of course no alternate universe where such a person is nonreligious, that you can make comparison to ;)
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Well played.

The so-called 'alternate Universe' I speak of is from the time before they became religious. I know of people who became religious; some were unchanged, some changed for the worse, but none changed for the better afaict.

If you have evidence of people changing for the better because of their belief in things that have no objective evidence to warrant said belief, now is the time to show it. :)
 
Ron The Bear said:
Really? He's effectively telling RA his principles aren't for sale. You can disagree with the principles but you have to give him credit for stoicism.
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No no credit at all.
He could have been principled and still play rugby.
What was the driving need to get up and grandstand homosexuals are going to hell, what did this achieve?? It would not have changed anybody who was gay to stop feeling that way.
It was a self indulgent act which just showed his beliefs.
It was a destrecutive comment to make for the LGBIT community .
It was a comment that compromised the commitment he had already made to rugby to not make discriminative comments regarding sexuality.
After last year and the sponsors concerns he was always going to be sacked for doing it again, stupidity .
 
Evolved1 said:
Hitler was principled, and Bin Laden too if you need another example. Do you cheer them on for holding onto their principles in the face of widespread condemnation?
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Don't know much about their principles. Their deeds speak much louder.
The strength in which Folau holds onto his principles and faith far exceeds his intelligence, and I give no credit to people who steadfastly hold onto stupidity.
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When younger I might've agreed that religion is useless. But whilst remaining strictly agnostic I've come to appreciate the foundation it provides for wholesome living and the comfort found in it by people dealing with life's curveballs. Even Islam has many positive traits.

Of course there are gigantic black marks like pedo's and terrorism, but those things aren't the workings of true adherents. You can admire the adherence of people to their faith without subscribing to that faith. It isn't the easiest of times to be a Christian.
If I were to argue with you for weeks on end about a belief that 1+1=11, would you give me credit for being strong in my faith?
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Doubt I'd waste my time on something so easily disproven.
 
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RUNVS said:
Probably been discussed but I read on reddit that Gary Ablett and Matt Kennedy (from Carlton) "liked" Israel Folau's homophobic post. Is this true?
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Hun seem to be going with it.
 
As an atheist - I find this sort of religious fanaticism unfathomable

But we live in a free society - all the best to him. As far as I can tell he’s not encouraging criminal behaviour - just preaching his word

It’s not like he is asking others to bash drunks or atheists

His pay packets about to be lighter - and if he’s fine with that - good luck to him
 
Adz said:
Correct.
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I already knew Ablett was a piece of shit but now I know Matthew Kennedy is as well. A person can be religious, I have no issue there, but I have no time at all for homophobes. Geelong and Carlton players should make both men as uncomfortable as possible by wandering around naked in the locker rooms with temporary tattoos of Ablett and Kennedy on their penises.
 
Slartibartfast said:
Churches will still be able to have the right to say it opposes homosexuality.
It’s members once they have signed an employment contract which is inclusive and does not allow for discrimination based on sexuality can rightfully be sacked if they do.

This where Issy was silly , his deliberate ploy to be provocative is what has got him in trouble.
If he had posted “my personal opinion is i am against homosexuality” he may have got away with it as it is just that, personal opinion and that in itself is not discrimatory IMO. It does not imply homosexuality is wrong or evil but just says i don’t approve of it myself .
To come out and list it as one of the things which get a free ticket to hell was plain stupid, especially when you consider he had been warned about saying these things the previous years.
His freedom of speech has not been impaired. His decision to make a statement as fact is what has got him in strife.
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If he posted it as his personal opinion it would have made it worse. It leaves him nowhere to go.

Right now he's repeated teachings from his religion.
 

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Not sure the extent of Gary jr's religiosity but it's fairly devout due to his old man. Is it that talking in tongues born again stuff?

Would be interesting how that goes down in the rooms. IIrc he has a small bunch of players do a prayer before each game.
 
Socrates2 said:
If you want to be homophobic then suffer the consequences. It's bad enough that in a supposed secular society, that religions get tax breaks and government school funding more than other schools. Religions are now causing more harm than good in society if you consider all the homophobia, paedophilia, refugee bashing by Christians, anti science on climate change, denial of evolution, attacking people who get an abortion, Andrew Bolt, The Australian newspaper Christians ,women's rights ect. Folou is an example of the NRL not clamping down earlier and pandering to moronic religious beliefs.
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wot?!? does anyone take this guy seriously here?!? 'Refugee bashing by Christians'?!? 'anti science'?!? OPEN YOUR EYES! I think this comment in itself is
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pandering to moronic
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Fuzzy Wuzzy Bear said:
Not sure the extent of Gary jr's religiosity but it's fairly devout due to his old man. Is it that talking in tongues born again stuff?

Would be interesting how that goes down in the rooms. IIrc he has a small bunch of players do a prayer before each game.
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I remember a few years back he refused to take anti-inflammatory drugs due to religious reasons. That's a Christian Science thing.
 
Man0gwaR74 said:
wot?!? does anyone take this guy seriously here?!? 'Refugee bashing by Christians'?!? 'anti science'?!? OPEN YOUR EYES! I think this comment in itself is
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The liberal party christians are the ones demonizing refugees mate.What do you not understand about that? Morrison ,Dutton ect are all christians and have successfully convinced people that terrorists are coming to Australia as refugees.They have also got children living in camps for 7 years.Open your eyes .Bringing in a lump of coal into parliament that's called anti science ,what do you not fet about that? George Pell was a climate change skeptic just like Tony Abbott . The Christian jounalists in the Murdoch papers such as Bolt are anti-science refugee bashers.Your head is in the sand dude.
 

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Fuzzy Wuzzy Bear said:
Not sure the extent of Gary jr's religiosity but it's fairly devout due to his old man.
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With his old man being a model of piety.

I'm backing a number of horses in Israel's field - I don't believe in hell so I do find it pretty amusing. And sad at the same time. He's probably stuffed up a career due to his lack of intelligence. I think he's a sucker that's being used by his church to further their propaganda. That being said, he totally deserves to be called out on it and face the consequences. So do those that support the comments.

From my point of view, what I find galling is the selective use of the Bible to discriminate. If you're going to have a go at homosexuals or whoever, you should also be having a go at:

  • Those who are divorced (Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery - Luke 16:18) )

  • Those who eat pork (The pig, because it has a split hoof but doesn't chew the cud, is unclean to you: of their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch - Deuteronomy 14:18)

  • Those that have suffered testicular cancer (He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord - Deuteronomy 23:1)

  • Those who have looked at a woman with a view to a bit of rumpy-pumpy (But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. -Matthew 5:28)

  • Anyone wearing cotton and linen at the same time (Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material - Leviticus 19:19)
That's just for starters. I've got no problems with people being religious. Believe whatever you want to. But the moment you use to try to impose those beliefs on how I (or anyone else) lives their life, then I have problems with you.
 
The Falcon Strike said:
As an atheist - I find this sort of religious fanaticism unfathomable

But we live in a free society - all the best to him. As far as I can tell he’s not encouraging criminal behaviour - just preaching his word

It’s not like he is asking others to bash drunks or atheists

His pay packets about to be lighter - and if he’s fine with that - good luck to him
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I get your point but what he is posting is hatefull....
thats the issue.
 

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