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brucetiki

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Just heard on Channel 10 that Torrens Transit (the company that's singlehandedly dragging our public transport system into its current decline, but that's another story) wants to scrap the Footy Express because it's unprofitable and too costly.

The SANFL in response has proposed that the Footy Express becomes a free service, with the cost to be covered by a levy (up to $5) to be added to season ticket prices (apparantly this is done in WA).

Personally, I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if it meant the service was free. If the levy was $5, then that's cheaper than one one-way ticket, so it's bargain basement prices for all. It may also boost numbers on the service - personally I don't touch the service currently because of the price but if a $5 levy was added and the service became free, I would consider using it.

The drawbacks would be that daily ticket holders would be freeloading off season ticket holder, and why should those that don't use pay to subsidise those that use it, but all up, I think the benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

Thoughts anybody?
 
In WA your match day ticket was also a transport ticket ie I caught 2 trains and never paid . Im sure I could have also used it for the buses.

They dont have a defined bus carrier to provide the service they just put on extra trains and buses. Its the carrier thats going broke and I have to ask why?

Most buses I see are full as.


This then begs the question how will this levy be applied? Will season ticket holders for AFC and PAFC pay...or will it be general ticket buyers?

Why dont the SANFL just buy out the carrier and run it themselves?
 
I go to AAMI every week, and have used the Footy Express once in 10+ years - it sucks, its slow and expensive, and the buses are crammed, and uncomfortable. I park at my Grandmas for free on Sportsmans Drive, and only drive every third week (we share the driving). Prefer comfort of my own car/someone elses, and music, stop at KFC get food etc. So no thanks. :thumbsdown:
 

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raikkonen said:
I go to AAMI every week, and have used the Footy Express once in 10+ years - it sucks, its slow and expensive, and the buses are crammed, and uncomfortable. I park at my Grandmas for free on Sportsmans Drive, and only drive every third week (we share the driving). Prefer comfort of my own car/someone elses, and music, stop at KFC get food etc. So no thanks. :thumbsdown:
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Yeah but if you drive you can't get toasted ;)
 
raikkonen said:
I very rarely drink :eek:. But your point is a very valid one. May I ask, if your toasted how do you find your way to the interchange in the 20 mins after the game finished?? ;)
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Crows shed, then cab to town :thumbsu: or on Saturday nights case, to Roosterlad's mates girlfriends place. Then town. I think. Help me out rooster!
 
I have always said - Should have extended the grange line across military road and into the west lakes car park.

Major coup for the Westfield West Lakes and they would sure as hell put money into it.

Then the service can run all week and not just be an eye sore. On the plus side, the trains go straight into town so anyone can catch their train to where they live. For those who dont live near the train line - Buses go to every suburb from town. With the new tram line being built, there is Sweet **** all walking to do through town so you cant use that excuse for family reasons.

There is much, much more room on trains than there is on buses.

This topic gets me so riled, as you can probably see.
 
I was suprised at the Kangaroos game when I went to purchase a bus ticket and was told it was included in the price of the ticket. Im not sure what the agreement is between whoever is involved but it worked well.

Im not sure how the Footy Express, packed with people, could be so unprofitable yet every 15 minutes an empty bus goes past my house in each direction. Most times you can go to the plaza/paradise with only one or two people on the bus.
 

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Just to play devil's advocate here, I have NEVER caught footy express to a footy match. We always drive and have a parking spot waiting for us so why should be pay extra $5 per membership for the service that we never use.

At the end of the day its pissy $15 which is couple of beers but for the sake of principle why?!
 
Seanason said:
Then the service can run all week and not just be an eye sore.
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Exactly what a train line is. Much more of an eye sore than a bus lane.

Secondly, I don't know where they would find the space presently to lay a new line. If you're talking about it going down WL Blvd, it wouldn't be able to be done unless the whole road was reconstructed, causing huge delays and millions of dollars. Also don't forget the soil down there is shit.

We have no water in our rivers, creeks and damns, and people want bloody tram extensions and train lines built so it's aparently easier for them to get to the footy. I don't see a huge of a heavy rail line as opposed to a bus lane.
 
brucetiki said:
Just heard on Channel 10 that Torrens Transit......wants to scrap the Footy Express because it's unprofitable and too costly.
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This is because now Torrens intergrate their FX runs into normal shifts, where as in years gone by(and as SL & TransitPlus still do) your shift would be a trip to AAMI, standby there while the match is on, do a trip back and sign off. Now they are worked so that you might sign on at, lets say St. Agnes, Do a first portion of up to 5 hours(Example 542 J3 J3 543 506 556 506 506). Have a meal break of anywhere between 31 & 115 minutes, then run Special(or empty) from the depot to AAMI, do an FX run from AAMI to Golden Grove and then back to depot. It's the "dead running" that is catching up with them. It's more costly to run a bus with no one on from St Agnes to AAMI, than it is to do a trip there, sit around for a couple of hours then do a trip back basically with a full load the whole time
 
Footy Express takes too long from the city. We almost had five or six burst kidneys last time I was over there.
 
Seanason said:
I have always said - Should have extended the grange line across military road and into the west lakes car park.

Major coup for the Westfield West Lakes and they would sure as hell put money into it.

Then the service can run all week and not just be an eye sore. On the plus side, the trains go straight into town so anyone can catch their train to where they live. For those who dont live near the train line - Buses go to every suburb from town. With the new tram line being built, there is Sweet **** all walking to do through town so you cant use that excuse for family reasons.

There is much, much more room on trains than there is on buses.

This topic gets me so riled, as you can probably see.
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totally agree!!

but when they convert the outer harbour line to a tram line, i believe they will spur the grange line to go down the middle of west lakes boulevard, and run trams into the city :thumbsu:

are we gunzeling?? ;)
 
Mr_Smooth said:
totally agree!!

but when they convert the outer harbour line to a tram line, i believe they will spur the grange line to go down the middle of west lakes boulevard, and run trams into the city :thumbsu:

are we gunzeling?? ;)
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That would work I think, they have it in Perth on the two trainlines I have been on/seen (Joondalup and the soon to be Mandurah line)), so why not here. Their public transport system is so much better and modern than ours it isnt funny. :eek:
 

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raikkonen said:
That would work I think, they have it in Perth on the two trainlines I have been on/seen (Joondalup and the soon to be Mandurah line)), so why not here. Their public transport system is so much better and modern than ours it isnt funny. :eek:
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perth is just a great example of what can happen when your govt is willing to spend money and not really worry about a aaa credit rating.... :rolleyes:
 
raikkonen said:
That would work I think, they have it in Perth on the two trainlines I have been on/seen (Joondalup and the soon to be Mandurah line)), so why not here. Their public transport system is so much better and modern than ours it isnt funny. :eek:
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But their mining boom has been going for a long time and therefore they have the money to pour into infrastructure.

Ours has bearly got under the ground as yet. ;)
 
the mighty adelaide crows said:
They should expand the Grange train line to AAMI Stadium or if Mr. Rann got off his bum and extended the tram line from the city to AAMI. That would have been great.:thumbsu:
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for starters....
 
I catch the footy express very often and I hate it. Just our luck the SANFL had to build a stadium on a swap in the middle of no where.

Just another reason for a new stadium :thumbsu:
 

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