Forged invoice.

[DrEvil]

As an Essendon supporter that still holds out strong hope that the club didn't actually cross any lines last year the piece of information that has worried me the most is that invoice from the hyperbaric centre and the story of "thymosin peptide". It is fairly well known that no one is going down for AOD so it is real performance enhancers that are I'm worried about. The invoice with "amino acids" could mean anything and "thymosin peptide" could be the dreaded beta 4.

Anyhow the word going around tonight is that the invoice was forged because the players never recieved that many injections, and Zaharakis was down as getting injected. There is also talk that the amount of injections across the whole program was no where near what the club was billed for.

Perhaps Fogdog's claims about this being more of a police investigation regards fraud and ASADA checking if evidence of any rogue behavior occurred is on the money.

Surely this is time for the anti-terror squad to step in? Surely?

 

[Sharks On A Plane]

 

[Laphroaig]

As an Essendon supporter that still holds out strong hope that the club didn't actually cross any lines last year the piece of information that has worried me the most is that invoice from the hyperbaric centre and the story of "thymosin peptide". It is fairly well known that no one is going down for AOD so it is real performance enhancers that are I'm worried about. The invoice with "amino acids" could mean anything and "thymosin peptide" could be the dreaded beta 4.

Anyhow the word going around tonight is that the invoice was forged because the players never recieved that many injections, and Zaharakis was down as getting injected. There is also talk that the amount of injections across the whole program was no where near what the club was billed for.

Perhaps Fogdog's claims about this being more of a police investigation regards fraud and ASADA checking if evidence of any rogue behavior occurred is on the money.

Its not fairly well known at all that nobody's going down for AOD. That's your hopeful assumption based on the unsubstantiated bullshit EFC have been spruking on the subject.

Apart from that, your post would have read better if it had started with "Once upon a time".

 

[jim boy]

The invoice was always likely to be ok.

If you are going to the effort of using untraceable drugs, etc you are hardly going to undo all that good work by producing a paper trail.

You are going to get everybody's story straight and consistent, along with the minimum amount of people in the know, you are also going to lay a legitimate and provable paper trail showing how everything you did was above board.

That's not to say that evidence of everything being above board and having your stories straight is any indication whatsoever of wrongdoing, just that it is wrong to accept everything at face value and that healthy degree of skepticism is good.

 

[questionable]

The amino acids in the invoice relate to essential amino acids, commonly used vitamins and commonly used minerals, all ASADA compliant.

commonly used vitamins and minerals in an unlabelled bottle from mexico, right?

and as for this claim...

EFC is aware

...baker and mckenzie disagree:

it is understood that no one at Essendon can state with certainty what the Mexican supplement contained.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...mystery-mexican-substance-20130814-2rx6m.html

perhaps they're mistaken. maybe you could fill us in?

 

[IanW]

The invoice was always likely to be ok.

Just when you think this entire process doesnt get any more bizarre, it does.

Drugs bought by someone else, in another jurisdiction, were apparently given at that very clinic.

I wonder if, rather than the 'amino acids' the invoice stated, it should have said 'administered drugs bought in Mexico for someone else' ?

 

[Satan]

Just when you think this entire process doesnt get any more bizarre, it does.

Drugs bought by someone else, in another jurisdiction, were apparently given at that very clinic.

I wonder if, rather than the 'amino acids' the invoice stated, it should have said 'administered drugs bought in Mexico for someone else' ?

you cynic

 

[questionable]

i thought i might repost this in a thread that isn't full of trolls making jokes about tacos. credible theory, or not? IanW ?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/201...-could-be-the-next-big-thing-in-sports-doping

(if you can't be bothered reading the link, it's about a new breed of drugs called myostatin inhibitors, that promote muscle growth and are being trialled for treating muscular dystrophy)

hypermed promote a myostatin inhibitor called 'myopep' on their website: http://www.hypermed.com.au/Conditions/Integrative Medicine.htm

and mexico seems to be the place to obtain it
http://www.terapiacelular-mexico.com.mx/myopep/
http://mf3mexico.com/

myostatin inhibitors are banned, of course

 

[Tiger71]

i thought i might repost this in a thread that isn't full of trolls making jokes about tacos. credible theory, or not? IanW ?



(if you can't be bothered reading the link, it's about a new breed of drugs called myostatin inhibitors, that promote muscle growth and are being trialled for treating muscular dystrophy)

hypermed promote a myostatin inhibitor called 'myopep' on their website: http://www.hypermed.com.au/Conditions/Integrative Medicine.htm

and mexico seems to be the place to obtain it
http://www.terapiacelular-mexico.com.mx/myopep/
http://mf3mexico.com/

myostatin inhibitors are banned, of course

Really good post


Tacos are crunchy!

 

[IanW]

i thought i might repost this in a thread that isn't full of trolls making jokes about tacos. credible theory, or not? IanW ?

Its a theory.

I have NFI what was in that bottle - but then again, Im not a professional sportsman in a code that has signed up with WADA, so I dont have to sign a form every so often certifying what drugs Ive taken recently.

I really hope someone at EFC knows either that (a) nothing in any brown bottle that may or may not of been in a hyperbaric chamber used by Essendon Football Club players was taken by any player, or (b) what was in it.

 

[tigerwill]

Just when you think this entire process doesnt get any more bizarre, it does.

Drugs bought by someone else, in another jurisdiction, were apparently given at that very clinic.

I wonder if, rather than the 'amino acids' the invoice stated, it should have said 'administered drugs bought in Mexico for someone else' ?

Why would they get there "amino acids" overseas anyway?

 

[Tiger71]

Why would they get there "amino acids" overseas anyway?

In Mexico, the amino acids are more spicy!

 

[IanW]

Why would they get there "amino acids" overseas anyway?

Charter hadnt made his shipment to Alavi ?

 

[KnaveyBlue]

Perhaps Fogdog's claims about this being more of a police investigation regards fraud and ASADA checking if evidence of any rogue behavior occurred is on the money.

100% correct.

This is definitely about a pharmaceutical mob overcharging, and not about an entire football club hierarchy pumping their players full of untested drugs.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Its not fairly well known at all that nobody's going down for AOD. That's your hopeful assumption based on the unsubstantiated bullshit EFC have been spruking on the subject.

Apart from that, your post would have read better if it had started with "Once upon a time".

Not at all. It was always well known that AOD was going nowhere. Some people just refused to acknowledge it, as it didn't suit their agenda.

ASADA obviously had no intention of pursuing it, passing that off as "unsubstantiated EFC bullshit" is just foamspeak

 

[fishardansin]

It looks like I set em up and you knock em down!