Forward Line

[Hong Kong Phooey]

Just wondering whats everyones thoughts of our Forward line.We had 5 goal kickers who reached into double figures ,with one being delisted.

I just cant see how we are going to apply score board pressure with the current set up of forwards.

I actually rate morton/nahas/ and riewoldt but just cant see how they will beable to step up week in and out.

 

[sante]

Should have kept Pettifer...

 

[Spluff]

Next years forwardline will be pretty bad. No doubt about it - but we've got a bunch of developing KPF in the bank so the future will be much better.

 

[WA Tiger]

Just wondering whats everyones thoughts of our Forward line.We had 5 goal kickers who reached into double figures ,with one being delisted.

I just cant see how we are going to apply score board pressure with the current set up of forwards.

I actually rate morton/nahas/ and riewoldt but just cant see how they will beable to step up week in and out.

Remember we have just picked up Griffiths, we also have Post, Vickery (although more ruck for mine), Tuck, Deledio, Simmonds and a couple of others that can pinch hit in the forward line. So put them together with Riewoldt, Morton, Nahas and maybe a Gilligan or another one or two of our new recruits and our forward line is not that bad really!!

 

[2powers]

Just wondering whats everyones thoughts of our Forward line.We had 5 goal kickers who reached into double figures ,with one being delisted.

I just cant see how we are going to apply score board pressure with the current set up of forwards.

I actually rate morton/nahas/ and riewoldt but just cant see how they will beable to step up week in and out.

should have picked up big butcher good reports coming out of port he is flying at training

 

[Prem87]

Your future forward line, a nice blend of agile talls and smalls.

HF: Cotchin Post Riewoldt
F: Morton Griffiths Nahas

 

[Rancid_Beasties]

Its not all doom and gloom guys. We have a tonne of forward options developing. Finally we aren't covering up our weaknesses with Richo, they are there to be seen and addressed.

Going into 2010 the only established forwards we have are Nahas, Riewoldt and Morton. But Vickery, Gourdis and Post will be physically ready to hold down a key position up forward next year. I expect King, Edwards, Hislop, Simmonds, Deledio, Cotchin, Cousins and Tuck to rotate through their during the year aswell.

Taylor (who is approx 190cm and has a good leap on him...3rd tall option), Astbury (who is 195cm and should fill out to 90-95kgs eventually) and Griffiths (who is a whopping 199cm and will be a massive unit around 100-105 kgs eventually) are three guys we have picked up in this draft who are all very talented. They have replaced Richo, Brown, Pattison, Schulz, Hughes, Pettifer and Putt...all outgoing forwards/potential forwards in 2009. Its a huge ask, but none of the outgoing players had any real impact in 2010 which means that surely it can only get better than 2009.

2010 Forwardline:

Hislop/Tuck Riewoldt Morton
Nahas Vickery Edwards/King

Future Forwardline:

Morton Riewoldt Taylor
Nahas Griffiths Edwards (I really think with a bit more weight he can be a long term defensive forward pocket)

 

[WA Tiger]

Not really sure Edwards wil ever fill out..

 

[Goldust]

Your future forward line, a nice blend of agile talls and smalls.

HF: Cotchin Post Riewoldt
F: Morton Griffiths Nahas

INDEED, the future does look bright.

Will take a little while getting there, no doubt, but that line-up in two to three years time looks the goods.

The day Riewoldt becomes a flanker is the day we'll have it right - capable of causing plenty of damage as the third tall!!

 

[Morro]

Its not all doom and gloom guys. We have a tonne of forward options developing. Finally we aren't covering up our weaknesses with Richo, they are there to be seen and addressed.

Going into 2010 the only established forwards we have are Nahas, Riewoldt and Morton. But Vickery, Gourdis and Post will be physically ready to hold down a key position up forward next year. I expect King, Edwards, Hislop, Simmonds, Deledio, Cotchin, Cousins and Tuck to rotate through their during the year aswell.

Taylor (who is approx 190cm and has a good leap on him...3rd tall option), Astbury (who is 195cm and should fill out to 90-95kgs eventually) and Griffiths (who is a whopping 199cm and will be a massive unit around 100-105 kgs eventually) are three guys we have picked up in this draft who are all very talented. They have replaced Richo, Brown, Pattison, Schulz, Hughes, Pettifer and Putt...all outgoing forwards/potential forwards in 2009. Its a huge ask, but none of the outgoing players had any real impact in 2010 which means that surely it can only get better than 2009.

2010 Forwardline:

Hislop/Tuck Riewoldt Morton
Nahas Vickery Edwards/King

Future Forwardline:

Morton Riewoldt Taylor
Nahas Griffiths Edwards (I really think with a bit more weight he can be a long term defensive forward pocket)

hey rancid, interesting you have Edwards in the forward pocket???

This is where he started his career with us and I always thought it was his best position.

is there any reason as to why you think he will return to the forward line as I am led to believe he is still being groomed to HBF where he did seem to play his best footy.

 

[coke_zero]

Gus will probably get more time floating around in the forward line next year. just to try and give Jack and Morton some space and free them up a bit.

 

[juss]

Can't see why we need Hislop in the 22 at all.
Supposedly he's tough and applies pressure but hopefully under Hardwick all players will put their head over the ball and apply pressure so its not enough for him to do that. He doesn't win the ball enough and doesn't do much when he gets it. Hasn't really done anything worth mentioning.

Our future forward line I think will look like this.

(Resting Mid) Post Morton
Riewoldt Griffiths Nahas

The flank will be a resting mid.

For 2010 I'd play

Morton Riewoldt Cousins
Nahas Post Vickery

Vickery down there while resting, his height will expose the second or tall defenders as Riewoldt will get the number 1 defender.
Rotating through will be guys like Deledio, Collins, Cotchin, Martin and possibly Tambling at half forward. Don't think Griffiths will play much in 2010 but he might get a few games towards the end of the year.

20-30 goals each from Nahas and Morton, Riewoldt could kick anything from 40-60, 10-20 each if Post or Vickery rotate through plus Cousins, Deledio, Cotchin, Collins can all kick above 10 goals each for the season and there is enough goals. An even spread of goals has made Geelong the best team of the last 3 years.

 

[Spluff]

I'd be expecting Morton to kick more than 20-30 goals next season, considering how many he's kicked in his last few seasons. If he gets some decent delivery I could see him kicking 50.

 

[Almighty tigers]

Our future forward line I think will look like this.

(Resting Mid) Post Morton
Riewoldt Griffiths Nahas

The flank will be a resting mid.
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I think Riewoldt will play the flank and troy taylor will play the pocket

 

[Madtiger2006]

We have a promising forward line. It would be too early to play most of the new draft picks, so I think our best forward line early in the season would be:

HF: Cousins Post King
FF: Nahas Reiwoldt Morton

 

[LuKe2428]

I really think Post would be better up forward and running the wing when he gets a bigger tank. Looks to be a good size and tall enough to hold down a CHF spot, with Griffiths at FF and Riewoldt on the flank. I would like our forward to look like this.....
HF: Polo - Post - Riewoldt
FF: Morton - Griffiths - Nahas

People will ask about my reasoning for Polo, I think he has skills and some hight to play down forward. I dont like him in the backline because of his bad decision-making but with some work i think he could be a good forward flanker.

 

[TheProwler]

Just wondering whats everyones thoughts of our Forward line.We had 5 goal kickers who reached into double figures ,with one being delisted.

I just cant see how we are going to apply score board pressure with the current set up of forwards.

I actually rate morton/nahas/ and riewoldt but just cant see how they will beable to step up week in and out.

Well we could have chased Fev or Big bad bustling if we wanted immediate results.

We are on the right track, if we finish last next year then so be it. If we continue to recruit well over the next few years we will eventually reap the rewards. If we change next year or the one after to appease the media etc and start recruiting the Kent Kingsleys and Mark Grahams then all this pain will be for nothing and continue for eternity.

With big Griffiths and Reiwoldt, Astbury, Dea, Taylor, Morton all 22 or under our future is brighter than some.

 

[folester41]

for the future i can see:

HF: morton roo/astbury collins
FF: nahas griffiths taylor

 

[leighroy]

i like

CHF Nahas Post Lids/ Cotchin/ Martin


FF Morton Griffiths Riewoldt


we all know lids is pretty unstoppable in the forward line as he is so quick of the mark and such a good mark, along with cotchin , we could rest one down there, while the other has a run on the ball.

 

[WA Tiger]

i like

CHF Nahas Post Lids/ Cotchin/ Martin


FF Morton Griffiths Riewoldt


we all know lids is pretty unstoppable in the forward line as he is so quick of the mark and such a good mark, along with cotchin , we could rest one down there, while the other has a run on the ball.

Lids is a midfield player that should only rest at FF on odd occasions, Wallace tried to leave him there full time and it did not work. Cotchin is also a midfielder as is Martin.

Griffiths, Morton and Riewoldt fair enough, with Nahas, Post, Simmonds maybe Gilligan, Dea, Vickery (resting there) and Gus could be used but leave the midfielders where they belong.... IMO.

 

[Rancid_Beasties]

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hey rancid, interesting you have Edwards in the forward pocket???

This is where he started his career with us and I always thought it was his best position.

is there any reason as to why you think he will return to the forward line as I am led to believe he is still being groomed to HBF where he did seem to play his best footy.

He shouldn't be a half back IMO for the following reasons

1. Not a good decision maker down back/in the midfield, tries to take too many people on and fails.
2. Not accountable enough.
3. Below average overhead, even for his height.
4. Physically weak...we would struggle to find a forward weak enough for him to match up on.
5. Not a great field kick, very little distance in his kicking.
6. Doesn't have a huge tank.

Compare that to the reasons that I believe he can be a usefull forward pocket

1. Technically a fantastic tackler (although still not strong enough).
2. Has a good eye for the goals (good snap/running shot, reasonable set shot).
3. Agile and able to get around players. Down back his attempts to take opponents on can result in direct goals against us. Up forward, if Edwards takes 1 too many people on and fails at least the ball is in our half!
4. Good pace off the first few steps.

If Edwards is going to make it, and I think he will, he will make it as a defensive forward. Add 5-10kgs to his frame, put him on the oppositions designated kicker and he will get 20 goals a year from holding the ball free kicks alone. Nahas is even smaller (5cm and 10kg smaller to be precise) and yet he managed to achieve this last year. We are going to need at least 2 small crumbers if, long term, we are going to have a very tall forwardline of Vickery, Post, Griffin and Astbury (all over 194cm) and a direct style of play (as indicated by hardwick).

 

[one eyedtiger]

I agree 100% with you Rancid.
Edwards is much better when he plays up forward, for all the reasons you metioned.
He's quick, can kick goals and is a good tackler (given his size)
We saw in 08 what he can do. He had a fairly solid year and he had a purple patch and kicked 4.4 or something against the bombers and had a few other good games following.

Seeing Griffiths will probably not play next year I would like to see this.

HF: Cotchin Riewoldt Edwards
FF: Morton Post Nahas

We are all expecting Griffiths to come in and play as our FF.
This will release Post and Jack to lead up the ground.
I see Post playing as our CHF and Jack as the third tall.

 

[WA Tiger]

I agree 100% with you Rancid.
Edwards is much better when he plays up forward, for all the reasons you metioned.
He's quick, can kick goals and is a good tackler (given his size)
We saw in 08 what he can do. He had a fairly solid year and he had a purple patch and kicked 4.4 or something against the bombers and had a few other good games following.

Seeing Griffiths will probably not play next year I would like to see this.

HF: Cotchin Riewoldt Edwards
FF: Morton Post Nahas

We are all expecting Griffiths to come in and play as our FF.
This will release Post and Jack to lead up the ground.
I see Post playing as our CHF and Jack as the third tall.

Just 2 questions, why is Cotchin better in the forward line than the centre and why will Griffiths not play next year when he is training? Just asking thats all?

 

[deliberate!!]

Relax....they'll all kick goals. At least most of them. They'll run hard at the sticks, enforced by Hardwick, and they'll all be given a license to have a ping. This will make us less predictable and more productive.

And we have to get over the Wallace/Rawlings brain clamp that for so long has indoctrinated us into thinking goals can only go through the dedicated key forwards.

Exciting times start now!

 

[Jhzz]

The amount of players we have that are developing, our forward line is sweet. 2010 willl be the year for all our draft picks & 2008 draft picks to get games under their belt. 2011 is the year i can see us pushing past 9th position. Backline is full of young & soon-to-be experienced players. Midfield is great as we all know, Martin, Cotchin, Collins, Jackson, Foley, Deledio, Cousins & Tambling (maybe preferebly HB). Forward line is futuristicly excellent with Griffeths, Riewodlt, Post, Morton, Vickery, Astbury & Nahas.