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This could be Sam Murray at the pies. He’s from New South Wales originally and came to the pies from the Swans. Wasn’t there a suggestion that he sought legal advice over the positive test on game day.

Could be him making a claim?
 

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so will go to court and instead of allowing the afl to treat him with a feather duster will expose himself to the law, potentially bringing on an assault charge?

Yeah that's not how the legal system works.

The DPP isn't going to suddenly consider an assault charge it previously couldn't be bothered with just because a player appeals an sporting organisation tribunal finding in the courts.

(Not that there's any chance Gaff is actually going to lodge an appeal).
 
Yeah that's not how the legal system works.

The DPP isn't going to suddenly consider an assault charge it previously couldn't be bothered with just because a player appeals an sporting organisation tribunal finding in the courts.

(Not that there's any chance Gaff is actually going to lodge an appeal).
The 'logic' of the police not charging afl players with assault, is that they allow the afl to hand out their own punishment. surely that approach changes if a player tries to use the law to avoid that punishment. if a player wants to use the law to avoid an in house punishment, then surely they should be subject to the rest of the law as well.

besides, the police could lay charges whenever they want so yes, that is how the law works.
 

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The 'logic' of the police not charging afl players with assault, is that they allow the afl to hand out their own punishment. surely that approach changes if a player tries to use the law to avoid that punishment. if a player wants to use the law to avoid an in house punishment, then surely they should be subject to the rest of the law as well.

That isn't the logic at all.

The reason players generally aren't charged with criminal assault is that the way the criminal law has developed, it is accepted that participants in contact sports are deemed to have consented to contact that occurs in the ordinary course of the game, including contact that is outside the rules of the sport but can generally be expected to occur from time to time. Where an assault occurs that is so far beyond the rules of the game that the player on the receiving end can't be deemed to have consented to it, then the police/DPP can step in and lay charges. That hasn't happened at VFL/AFL level since Leigh Matthews, although it's happened a fair bit at lower levels, for example that AFL staffer who belted someone in an ammos match in the last couple of years.

besides, the police could lay charges whenever they want so yes, that is how the law works.

If the police can lay charges whenever they want, why would a private legal suit between a player and the AFL make any difference as to whether they do so?
 
You can't just bash people in the head and expect to play in big finals... no chance for Gaffy here



































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Thanks for posting this visual evidence that he had eyes and hands on the ball. Don't look now, but you've embarrassed yourself champ.
 
As crazy as it seems, I think this might actually work. West Coast will wait until the week before the prelim. They will make an urgent application for orders that the suspension will be reduced. They won't get that, but they very well may get an order than the suspension be stayed until the court has time to hear the case properly. That would likely buy them enough time for the Prelim and Grand Final.
 
As crazy as it seems, I think this might actually work. West Coast will wait until the week before the prelim. They will make an urgent application for orders that the suspension will be reduced. They won't get that, but they very well may get an order than the suspension be stayed until the court has time to hear the case properly. That would likely buy them enough time for the Prelim and Grand Final.
It might work but we won't be doing it
 
As crazy as it seems, I think this might actually work. West Coast will wait until the week before the prelim. They will make an urgent application for orders that the suspension will be reduced. They won't get that, but they very well may get an order than the suspension be stayed until the court has time to hear the case properly. That would likely buy them enough time for the Prelim and Grand Final.

We'd have to show we had a bloody good reason for waiting six weeks from the Tribunal's decision before bringing an "urgent" application.
 

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This is fairly ridiculous. I also believe doc brown will be getting mark lecras from 2012 and bringing him to 2018 for the game sat night
 
Did we wait 6 weeks?
How long does it take to get your facts right before you bring in urgent application?

Also case of making sure gaff served some time.

Well, let's assume we got some info that justified an appeal around the time this thread was started. We've already taken two weeks. That's the sort of time that would have the judge asking questions.

If he/she gets the impression that we've delayed in order to maximise our chances of getting an interlocutory injunction at the most opportune time (i.e. before a prelim or the grand final), it will NOT go down well.
 

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