Getting references from current employers

[raskolnikov]

I'm not really happy in my present job and am looking around for a new one. I need to supply referees for my job applications. The catch is that I don't really want my boss to know that I'm leaving until it is definite. I have heard from others that she can be a real bitch if she knows you want to leave. What to do?

 

[RustyHawk]

In writing. Just say you need a certificate of service or similiar for a loan application. That way proves to any potential employer you are currently working.

Or

Just show any potential employer your pay slips..again proving you work at XYZ.

Or

Ask for a character reference because you are applying to become a bail justice/Army Reserve/Gay Pride March organiser or similiar......

Personally I would think as long as you can prove you are employed at XYZ corp and have been since the year dot..should suffice.

 

[Barwick17]

Assuming you are talking about referee's for your resume

Having been on interview panels - it would probably give you no chance of getting the job. All it leaves is questions in the employers head of why wouldn't they put them down or why can't they be honest with their employer.

People want to employ good people - and if can't be honest with your employer then it means there is a breakdown somewhere and it reflects on yourself. When you have to shortlist, would you choose someone with a thorough resume or someone who is trying to hide something?

Unless you are an outstanding employee in your profession which people can see, you will struggle to 'stand-out' and get employed when you are hiding something or having trouble with your employer

 

[raskolnikov]

I was referring to referees. My current employer and I get along fine. It's just that she is bipolar and has been known to be a bitch to people who are thinking of leaving as she takes it as personal criticism. One person gave her two weeks notice and she said, "No. Leave now". I'm afraid that if a possible new employer called for a reference and I didn't get the job she would make life hard for me.

 

[greenred]

Just note that referees are available on request. Most employers won't contact your referee unless they are going to offer you the position. There is no need for them to have the information until this point and if you reach a point that someone wants your referee details, you should hopefully be out of your current job soon enough anyway.

 

[Hawk Dork]

You shouldnt need one
Your history is your reference
I have interviewed heaps of people and have never read a reference.
Just looked at their CV and asked questions.
People understand you leave jobs for other jobs. and know they cant ring your current boss

 

[krusden]

I'm not really happy in my present job and am looking around for a new one. I need to supply referees for my job applications. The catch is that I don't really want my boss to know that I'm leaving until it is definite. I have heard from others that she can be a real bitch if she knows you want to leave. What to do?

Stuff your boss. Any other workmates you can convince to be a referee?

that's the way i would go.

 

[bigpapagman]

Ask Middle Managment as opposed to the boss.

 

[campbell]

Yep, get another employee to be your reference. I am that for a few people at the moment.
as said they only ring IF you basically are going to get the job.


and most wont ring a current employer. They obviously ask you why you are leaving anyways, be upfront, but not too honest. ie you cant say they are a bunch of w***ers, per say.

 

[PowerKat]

Use other people you have worked for (such as a previous employer); use others who know you well and have some credibility (like family friends who own a business, not your 'best mate'); other senior people in your workplace - they may not be your direct line manager, but they can give feedback on you as an employee.

Ask them first to ensure they are happy to do it.

 

[krusden]

Yep, get another employee to be your reference. I am that for a few people at the moment.
as said they only ring IF you basically are going to get the job.


and most wont ring a current employer. They obviously ask you why you are leaving anyways, be upfront, but not too honest. ie you cant say they are a bunch of w***ers, per say.

and many will ask if you have a problem with them calling your referees as well.

 

[campbell]

some even ask for email addressess, so they can get specific forms filled out on job applicants by referees.

 

[Rohan25]

Just get a friend at the workplace to be your referee and pose as your boss. A girl I worked with years ago and I did that for each other for years. We always put each other down as referees when we were looking for jobs, and we both would pretend to have been the others manager. It worked well.

 

[The Cranium]

Assuming you are talking about referee's for your resume

Having been on interview panels - it would probably give you no chance of getting the job. All it leaves is questions in the employers head of why wouldn't they put them down or why can't they be honest with their employer.

People want to employ good people - and if can't be honest with your employer then it means there is a breakdown somewhere and it reflects on yourself. When you have to shortlist, would you choose someone with a thorough resume or someone who is trying to hide something?

Unless you are an outstanding employee in your profession which people can see, you will struggle to 'stand-out' and get employed when you are hiding something or having trouble with your employer

LOL - Does McDonald's get this in depth with their recruitment...

I put on my CV- References / Referees In Confidence. Their contact details remain confidential as they should be until you get to the final stages.

I also tell the prospective employer that there is no reason to disenfranchise my current employer until I make the final cut.

Using the above, I have never had a problem.

Lastly, written references are a load of bollocks, no one will provide them...why, litigation, you say they are great and they turn to be an out right douche...

I generally reply to two questions when giving verbal references.

Yes he / she worked here.

Yes / No I would employ them again....