Getting Sick

[Shupe]

I'll preface this thread by requesting that the LCHF/Paleo/Milk people need not reply with their wank, as it will be politely ignored. If you have something interesting to add, then I'm all ears. Now, onto the point of the thread…

I'm beginning to get sick a lot. I have always been a healthy person, very rarely getting sick and maybe only getting a cold once a year. Since I have started at my current job (August/September last year), the frequency of my sicknesses is unprecedented. Just general flu/cold like bugs. I also had a pretty bad throat infection.

I was just wondering (without bothering to google for myself) if there was any supplement/food/supplement food combo that is likely to boost my immune system? Something that I take/eat daily? I know this sounds relatively stupid, but it's obviously the nature of my work that is exposing me to these bugs and I'm thinking that surely there is a better way than just copping it. For the purpose of this thread - I work at a drop-in centre for the homeless, seeing around 150 people every day. Due to homelessness etc. these people obviously carry around all sorts of germs/bugs.

 

[Bazzar]

I'll preface this thread by requesting that the LCHF/Paleo/Milk people need not reply with their wank,

Ok.

 

[Shupe]

Ok.

It's more a matter of the fact that I'm not going to start buying grass-fed this/grass-fed that, so you may as well save your time.

 

[Training Mad]

Olive leaf extract

 

[Shupe]

Olive leaf extract

And how do you come to this conclusion?

 

[Kummerspeck]

I'll preface this thread by requesting that the LCHF/Paleo/Milk people need not reply with their wank

If it makes you feel better, I'm LCHF and I get colds all the time. I just take cold and flu tablets, drink my lemon and honey and ride it out. I'm in a high-transmission job and I gave up trying to fight a while ago.

 

[Training Mad]

And how do you come to this conclusion?

I use it if feel something coming on and it passes.

 

[Mofra]

Since I have started at my current job (August/September last year), the frequency of my sicknesses is unprecedented. Just general flu/cold like bugs. I also had a pretty bad throat infection.

Sounds like (sadly) just a timing issue - is your new job exposing you to more people (more sick people)?
Lifestyle factors are as big an influence as diet IMO.
I went through a period of almost never being sick - however in the past few years between two jobs, part time study, always being busy etc I can get run down and find myself getting sick 3-4 times per year, most notably when I've been short on sleep for weeks on end.

How are your sleeping patterns? It may actually be worth concentrating on sleep supplements if you aren't getting enough as that can have a big influence on immunity.

 

[Shupe]

Sounds like (sadly) just a timing issue - is your new job exposing you to more people (more sick people)?

Absolutely. As I said, I'm working with ~150 homeless every single day.

How are your sleeping patterns? It may actually be worth concentrating on sleep supplements if you aren't getting enough as that can have a big influence on immunity.

Very good actually. I wake up at 5am every weekday, and I'm in bed between 8-9pm each night. I'm pretty strict with this, as I've read many studies on the importance of sleep (coming from a psychology background myself).

 

[Mofra]

Absolutely. As I said, I'm working with ~150 homeless every single day.

Sheesh, there's your answer for the cause.

Apart from maintaining reasonable health there's no real magic cure, although regular GP tests will help to determine if you have any mineral/vitamin/functional deficiencies (just got all my bloods back, no deficiencies and organs in good function although vitamin D is at the low end of the scale).
I would expect in time your immune system will adapt to dealing with so many people.

 

[Damon_3388]

Many of us are bought up to believe that you get colds and flu because you're individually "sensitive to cold weather" or because you didn't "wear your jumper" in winter. Everyone's Mum probably told them this kind of stuff growing up (hell, my Mum still firmly believes it), and probably scolded them for "allowing" themselves to get sick in this manner.

The fact is though, putting yourself in situations or living a lifestyle that compromises your immune system, and being around people with germs, bugs and illnesses, are what causes illness. Yes, being in the cold weather for extended periods can be a factor in compromising your health, but it's not the cause of sickness.

If the OP is getting enough rest, is managing stress (can also be a factor in compromising your immune system) and eating well, then the obvious variable (as Mofra mentioned) is being around homeless people, who are probably suffering from illnesses or carrying germs and bugs themselves.

 

[Mofra]

There's always this to try:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifes...|heading|homepage|homepage&itmt=1431663936951

 

[Shupe]

It is without a doubt my exposure to the homeless that is causing it. The question is if there is something I can take/eat that will boost my immune system to cope with the extra germs etc.

 

[Bazzar]

It is without a doubt my exposure to the homeless that is causing it. The question is if there is something I can take/eat that will boost my immune system to cope with the extra germs etc.

Dont wash your hands after a poo (unless you are about to prepare food)

 

[cptkirk]

gluteamine is decent for immunity for memory, have a search though

you might just be going through an adjustment stage so keep up what you're doing normally (slid diet, manage stress etc) and hopefully as you build immunity the sickness bouts get more irregular

 

[Shupe]

Dont wash your hands after a poo (unless you are about to prepare food)

A soap company conspiracy, eh?

 

[Bazzar]

A soap company conspiracy, eh?

You did ask for some (non LCHF/Paleo) input.

No conspiracy at all as we all want to and should live in a clean environment, but some scientists and especially microbiologists are adamant we are to hygenic and the toilet is the best place we can get the best bacteria for a healthier immune system. Scrubbing the toilet and surounding area once a month instead of once a week and not washing hands (except for food, before sex etc) is one way they recommend getting a daily dose of "good' healthy bacteria.

FMT fecal microbiota transplantation has been used for hundreds of years in various forms but its only now science is taking it more serious and conducting more trials. Microbiome and gut health is probably the most interesting science taking place at the moment.

Add to the above, Magnesium, Zink, Vitamin D3, Plus 2 tablespoons of sauerkraut (real, not supermarket) everyday is the best way (apart from FMT) we can feed our gut good quality live bacteria.

Ps, if you don't like sauerkraut just mix it in with some warm mashed spuds.


My favorite blog for all this stuff is http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com.au/

 

[vonn]

Shupey Shupe Shupe why don't you just hit up the RDM for this? I'm the go-to for natural remedies.

My one true love is raw garlic. As you would know by how often I go on about it.

I have a clove or two once a week - It's a natural antibiotic, lowers cholesterol, pretty much anti-everything. Even lowers the chance of lung cancer. I don't care how many people will post articles showing otherwise, I do this and I don't think I've been sick for at least a year+. Even when I do get sick, I just ramp up on the garlic and it works.

It's terrible for your breath but we both know you aren't getting any so that's not an issue.

Also of course chop up raw ginger for tea for the throat. Works a treat. I don't think I've had regular Western medication for years.

 

[Shupe]

**** you, I had a date this morning

 

[vonn]

**** you, I had a date this morning

Exactly. A date this morning. Clearly you aren't getting any or you would be texting 'I had a date from last night that just ended this morning.'

 

[Shupe]

I hate you

 

[mcuzzy]

Kiss the homeless people so your body gets used to it

 

[DapperJong]

I'll preface this thread by requesting that the LCHF/Paleo/Milk people need not reply with their wank, as it will be politely ignored. If you have something interesting to add, then I'm all ears. Now, onto the point of the thread…

I'm beginning to get sick a lot. I have always been a healthy person, very rarely getting sick and maybe only getting a cold once a year. Since I have started at my current job (August/September last year), the frequency of my sicknesses is unprecedented. Just general flu/cold like bugs. I also had a pretty bad throat infection.

I was just wondering (without bothering to google for myself) if there was any supplement/food/supplement food combo that is likely to boost my immune system? Something that I take/eat daily? I know this sounds relatively stupid, but it's obviously the nature of my work that is exposing me to these bugs and I'm thinking that surely there is a better way than just copping it. For the purpose of this thread - I work at a drop-in centre for the homeless, seeing around 150 people every day. Due to homelessness etc. these people obviously carry around all sorts of germs/bugs.

Along with the normal difficulties of training and eating a lot, I also have Crohn's disease. Which means I have to take immune system suppressors to keep it at bay. It's imperative to me that I'm strict with all the basic supps/vitamins otherwise I would have no hope.

I keep a steady supply of multi, zinc, magnesium (!), vit d, vit c.

But, I was also put onto HCI powder which is a really good digestive aid. basically meaning I get the most out of the food and supps that I take and that I'm not fluro pissing them out all the time. I highly recommend this one:

http://main.poliquinstore.com/ultra-hcl-4-0-225-ct

You may need to do an HCI test to determine how mch you need but most people need a lot.

Hope this helps.

 

[Bazzar]

Along with the normal difficulties of training and eating a lot, I also have Crohn's disease. Which means I have to take immune system suppressors to keep it at bay. It's imperative to me that I'm strict with all the basic supps/vitamins otherwise I would have no hope.

I keep a steady supply of multi, zinc, magnesium (!), vit d, vit c.

But, I was also put onto HCI powder which is a really good digestive aid. basically meaning I get the most out of the food and supps that I take and that I'm not fluro pissing them out all the time. I highly recommend this one:

http://main.poliquinstore.com/ultra-hcl-4-0-225-ct

You may need to do an HCI test to determine how mch you need but most people need a lot.

Hope this helps.

How much D3 do you take? Current guidelines have it at 800IU but new research is suggesting that's way to low and 1000IU-1500IU should be the range for a healthy adult, but some researchers are now saying 10,000IU maybe safe. I take 5000IU daily.

 

[DapperJong]

How much D3 do you take? Current guidelines have it at 800IU but new research is suggesting that's way to low and 1000IU-1500IU should be the range for a healthy adult, but some researchers are now saying 10,000IU maybe safe. I take 5000IU daily.

5000IU is good for people who train.

When I first got sick and I had blood tests, I was pretty low. So my specialist suggested two servings of D3 a week at 35000IU each for an initial boost. Apparently it works better than a steady amount of a 7 day period. It seemed to work for me. I did that for two months.