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Gia - 7th in B&F

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We'll see what Gia is made of in 2008, The new crop will be looking up to players like him and apparently he's a real leader on the training track, losing a fair bit of experience will certainly put him up in the leadership group.

I hope Grant, Darcy and Johnno can get him to where he needs to be.
I wouldn't mind if he was vice captain for a while to see how he handles the extra responsibility, It could help his game and unlock some potential.
 
It doesn't take much, does it?

He averaged 18 touches, 3 tackles, a goal and one assist a game this year. I'd say that's a pretty fair input for any player. There's no doubt he had a disappointing year considering the way he started off 2006. Criticism of his year is warranted, but nowhere near the scale of what's been seen on this board over the past 6 months.

The head hunting directed at him during the year was completely unwarranted. The criticism wasn't constructive. It was made clear early on in the year that he was our scapegoat in 2007. The team loses games, not the individual.

His fitness wasn't up to scratch this year, but the team as a whole failed to run out games. If Eade's true to his word, then the team as a whole, including Gia will be far more competitive in 2008.

The soft tag is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to watch Archer's 300th again. He laid the fourth most tackles for us this year, behind West, Cooney and Boyd. So what if he wasn't at the bottom of every pack? Different players have different roles. It's obvious he isn't an inside midfielder, so why are people expecting him to be one?

In every single game I saw this year, he was one of, if not the most vocal players on the park. To dismiss his leadership qualities as non existent is nothing short of ignorant.

It's well known he's immensley respected among the playing group. Respect has to be earnt.

As Gooka said, he's obviously done something right. It's a pity so many on this board can't accept it.

Fire away.
 

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Surely a leader must be able to inspire others. This has been what some of our best leaders at the club have been able to do.
Whitten
Grant
Wynd
etc.
The captain must be able to pull something out that will lift others to greater heights.
James Hird has arguably been the best leader of our generation.
Johno is our current leader and I see one of the younger blokes coming through being our next leader.
 
vandalay industries said:
7th in the B&F...........big deal!
He's exactly what's wrong with this club and it's culture! If 7th is a great result for an established player with very few injuries who has been around for about 6 or 7 years then we are praising mediocrity!
Remember we finished 13th not top 4, it's about time we started demanding more from our players but it seems to me that most people on here are quite content with this result............sorry but i don't agree and think he has under achieved and will no way be our next captain otherwise my money stays in my pocket!
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Taking away the fact that we finished bottom 4 compared to Geelong who were far and away the best team in the comp, but Cam Mooney who I rate as probably the most important player at Geelong finished 7th in there B&F.
 
You know the disappointing thing about all this?

The fact that i chose to put the number 13 on my guernsey instead of 17 :eek:

I honestly thought 3 years ago that Adam cooney will be heading back to SA but thats not the case :D
 
westy07 said:
It doesn't take much, does it?

He averaged 18 touches, 3 tackles, a goal and one assist a game this year. I'd say that's a pretty fair input for any player. There's no doubt he had a disappointing year considering the way he started off 2006. Criticism of his year is warranted, but nowhere near the scale of what's been seen on this board over the past 6 months.

The head hunting directed at him during the year was completely unwarranted. The criticism wasn't constructive. It was made clear early on in the year that he was our scapegoat in 2007. The team loses games, not the individual.

His fitness wasn't up to scratch this year, but the team as a whole failed to run out games. If Eade's true to his word, then the team as a whole, including Gia will be far more competitive in 2008.

The soft tag is ridiculous. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to watch Archer's 300th again. He laid the fourth most tackles for us this year, behind West, Cooney and Boyd. So what if he wasn't at the bottom of every pack? Different players have different roles. It's obvious he isn't an inside midfielder, so why are people expecting him to be one?

In every single game I saw this year, he was one of, if not the most vocal players on the park. To dismiss his leadership qualities as non existent is nothing short of ignorant.

It's well known he's immensley respected among the playing group. Respect has to be earnt.

As Gooka said, he's obviously done something right. It's a pity so many on this board can't accept it.

Fire away.
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Well said westy07, the other thing that tells me he is a leader and has the respect, of the other players is what Aker said about him when he first came to the club.

some one who sees that in a player only knowing him for that long, and coming from where Aker has come from, playing with Voss ect

Eade West and Johno have said over the years about Gia as a player and leader, i take these word with more Respect as they see him all the time and see what he is like.
 
Gooka said:
Half this board want him shipped out. He was obviously doing something right by the coaching staff, and obviously is a lot safer than many others in the side.
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Adam McPhee came 5th at Ess and he is a complete and utter a5se clown.
7th in a mediocre year is nothing.
If he and a few others had played better my local side might have finished a little higher.
 
mocco hill said:
Totally agree! Can someone explain to me what it is that he does so well?All i see is someone who hangs out,never kicks the ball more than 25 metres,never in the game early when it has to be won,and runs twice as hard forward as he does defencively!
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Don't tell me Gia is the new bogan scapegoat at the kennel.
He lead the team in assists, yet he is not team orientated?
 
Gia has some crucial flaws:

1 - Doesn't have a cool head in a crisis - He panics in the backline and often turns the ball over
2 - He doesn't stick enough tackles, opposition continually break his tackles with apparent ease or able to dispose effectively of the ball to advantage if he does manage to hang on to a tackle
3 - He doesn't run hard enough

That is why its surprising he was 7th in the B&F and why he should not be captain - particularly points 1 and 2.
 

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Don't tell me Gia is the new bogan scapegoat at the kennel.
He lead the team in assists, yet he is not team orientated?
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Mofra scapegoat is referring to someone who is blamed for misfortunes, generally as a way of distracting attention from the real causes. I believe most people are simply stating his performances didn't relate to the overall heights of assessment that lead to finishing 7th.
 
mocco hill said:
Totally agree! Can someone explain to me what it is that he does so well?All i see is someone who hangs out,never kicks the ball more than 25 metres,never in the game early when it has to be won,and runs twice as hard forward as he does defencively!
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What a bazaar interpretation of what he does.
My read on Gia is that he is injected in the midfield early when the game is hot, spends himself then gets sent down forward in the second half when after his legs are slightly gone he becomes a reasonable small forward option.
 
lindsay_bulldogs said:
Mofra scapegoat is referring to someone who is blamed for misfortunes, generally as a way of distracting attention from the real causes. I believe most people are simply stating his performances didn't relate to the overall heights of assessment that lead to finishing 7th.
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Name 10 players who did better than him this season?
 
Borgsta said:
you sure you arent talking about Farren Ray there Batman?

Gia in the backline.
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Yeah I'm sure, let me rephrase, he doesn't play as a backman, but as a mid he drops back and that is where he gets into trouble.

No probs with his forward work - except his lack of pressure to keep the ball in...
 

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Batman said:
Yeah I'm sure, let me rephrase, he doesn't play as a backman, but as a mid he drops back and that is where he gets into trouble.

No probs with his forward work - except his lack of pressure to keep the ball in...
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Yeah ... but have you noticed until about half time he is usualy up the stats board, until the older slower players find their legs when the game slows down.
Then because he usualy has ran out of legs he becomes a small forward option after half time.
 
To all those going on about how 'bad' Gia is, how he will never be captain, and how we're accepting mediocrity by suggesting because Gia finished 7th in the B&F he's pretty safe come trade week...you do realise this is the B&F we're talking about? The award given by coaches, and coaches know what has been asked of the player, and judge them on how well they've acheived that.

The fact that Harris and Morris finished so highly up the list also should show that being a game breaker has absolutely nothing to do with doing well in the B&F, it's about doing what the coach wants, and the coach wants guys to do what's best for the team. Obviously Gia did that better than most this season.

Say all you want about it being a crap year, no one is saying that we had a good year, or even that Gia had a great year, but more that what we as supporters see and judge a player on is not necessarily what the coach does or even what the coach expects of the player.

Of course the guy, and the team has weaknesses.
 
Gooka said:
The fact that Harris and Morris finished so highly up the list also should show that being a game breaker has absolutely nothing to do with doing well in the B&F, it's about doing what the coach wants, and the coach wants guys to do what's best for the team.
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I think we played 75% of our game in 2007 in defense.
 
With his potential Gia shud be finishing higher then 7th in our B&F. He is a classy player, and correct me if im wrong but a couple of years ago he was #1 in tackles for the Dogs and top couple in the league? Can't say hes a bad tackler but agree he needs work on his fitness.
 
Bulldogs_6 said:
With his potential Gia shud be finishing higher then 7th in our B&F. He is a classy player, and correct me if im wrong but a couple of years ago he was #1 in tackles for the Dogs and top couple in the league? Can't say hes a bad tackler but agree he needs work on his fitness.
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I disagree
He tends to collect more stats earlier when it is "game on" than West, Eagle, Boyd and very unfortunately Cooney.
We seem to have to many midfeilders who require the game to slow down to their tempo early.. fortunately "Gia" is one of the few who can run with the game early when the pace is white hot.
Then after the tempo drops back and he has ran his legs off he can become a dangerous small forward.
 
acker said:
I disagree
He tends to collect more stats earlier when it is "game on" than West, Eagle, Boyd and very unfortunately Cooney.
We seem to have to many midfeilders who require the game to slow down to their tempo early.. fortunately "Gia" is one of the few who can run with the game early when the pace is white hot.
Then after the tempo drops back and he has ran his legs off he can become a dangerous small forward.
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When did i say he wasnt harder working when it is "game on". And, when he is "white hot" at the beginning of the game, if he were to improve his fitness he could run with the pace of the game all day, yeah? We should definitely give him short stints in the middle, and as you said, use him up as a small forward where he can be very dangerous.
 

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