Give The Bird The Boot

[AdelaideFan]

Maybe not a superstar or even a gun, but better than about 30 other blokes on the list. I still claim that WC only won the game because he left the ground.

Find this hard to believe still but you are allowed to air your opinion.

My point to this argument was that I feel Burton will be a lot better player spending some time in the SANFL. Feeling pressure to have to perform to get his position back. I think at the moment he is to relaxed and feels his mistakes are minor and that they don't matter and a lot of comments made by supporter's here make me think this is correct.

So thankyou

 

[Wood_Duck]

Find this hard to believe still but you are allowed to air your opinion.

I base it entirely on the fact that he was our best player and Adelaide were in front and had the momentum. He was knackered from running the ball out of the backline. There was not one other player on the ground that was still running to contests like he was and was clearly the dominant player on the ground in the last quater. As soon as he went off the ground the ball came into the WC forward line with minimal resistence and WC stole the momentum. The rest is history.

A couple of other blokes called Walls and Healey who apparently played footy a few years ago thought the same thing incidently.

 

[macca23]

I base it entirely on the fact that he was our best player and Adelaide were in front and had the momentum. He was knackered from running the ball out of the backline. There was not one other player on the ground that was still running to contests like he was and was clearly the dominant player on the ground in the last quater. As soon as he went off the ground the ball came into the WC forward line with minimal resistence and WC stole the momentum. The rest is history.

A couple of other blokes called Walls and Healey who apparently played footy a few years ago thought the same thing incidently.

It had a huge effect on the result.

I agree with you.

 

[AdelaideFan]

I base it entirely on the fact that he was our best player and Adelaide were in front and had the momentum. He was knackered from running the ball out of the backline. There was not one other player on the ground that was still running to contests like he was and was clearly the dominant player on the ground in the last quater. As soon as he went off the ground the ball came into the WC forward line with minimal resistence and WC stole the momentum. The rest is history.

A couple of other blokes called Walls and Healey who apparently played footy a few years ago thought the same thing incidently.

Thanks for your obviously educated opinion. Will take it on board. Will have to start listnening to Walls and Healey to getter a better understanding on football. Didn't realise they were the only ones that knew anything. (besides yourself of course)

 

[Wood_Duck]

Thanks for your obviously educated opinion. Will take it on board. Will have to start listnening to Walls and Healey to getter a better understanding on football. Didn't realise they were the only ones that knew anything. (besides yourself of course)

Great response. How old are you???

 

[Truck Rutten]

I base it entirely on the fact that he was our best player and Adelaide were in front and had the momentum. He was knackered from running the ball out of the backline. There was not one other player on the ground that was still running to contests like he was and was clearly the dominant player on the ground in the last quater. As soon as he went off the ground the ball came into the WC forward line with minimal resistence and WC stole the momentum. The rest is history.

A couple of other blokes called Walls and Healey who apparently played footy a few years ago thought the same thing incidently.

It definitely had an impact....hard to say with any certainty that we would have won had he not gone off injured. If we had played the rest of the game the way we started off, we would have won by miles. If Cousins and Kerr weren't allowed to torch us in the 3rd quarter we would have won. Lots of what ifs. The fact is we lost a game at home that we shouldn't have, and it certainly wasn't the Birdman's fault.

 

[Wood_Duck]

It definitely had an impact....hard to say with any certainty that we would have won had he not gone off injured. If we had played the rest of the game the way we started off, we would have won by miles. If Cousins and Kerr weren't allowed to torch us in the 3rd quarter we would have won. Lots of what ifs. The fact is we lost a game at home that we shouldn't have, and it certainly wasn't the Birdman's fault.

Truck you are absolutely right. I cant prove a thing and there is definately no certainty, its just what I reckon.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Find this hard to believe still but you are allowed to air your opinion.

My point to this argument was that I feel Burton will be a lot better player spending some time in the SANFL. Feeling pressure to have to perform to get his position back. I think at the moment he is to relaxed and feels his mistakes are minor and that they don't matter and a lot of comments made by supporter's here make me think this is correct.

So thankyou

what rubbish, why don't you just say
"I don't like him, and I'm not interested in hearing anymore about it"

crazy talk. with Burton still on the aprk in round one, we likely would have 3 - 0 right now.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Thanks for your obviously educated opinion. Will take it on board. Will have to start listnening to Walls and Healey to getter a better understanding on football. Didn't realise they were the only ones that knew anything. (besides yourself of course)

your opinion is only as good as your knowledge on a given subject. Recalcitrant stances like this one, don't serve to elevate the standing of your analysis.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Thanks for your obviously educated opinion. Will take it on board. Will have to start listnening to Walls and Healey to getter a better understanding on football. Didn't realise they were the only ones that knew anything. (besides yourself of course)

I agree with you to some extent, Burton on a wing is counter productive. However, Burton in the forward line could be a whole different story.

 

[Damp Squarie]

My first thought is that you have no idea.

Burton has played some blinders for us.

His positives far outweigh his negatives.

I would like to move him forward more.

Only get rid of him if we get a really really good trade.

Ditto

While he frustrates the salt outta me; he does provide the Crows best 22 with an "X" factor.

The fact that he's nearly impossible to match up on says play him if he's fit.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Matchwinner is a term like superstar, or the great man, which are used far too liberally in footy today in my opinion. Brett's a good player. A valuable contributor with fantastic aerobic capacity and a great work ethic. He's not a gun in my opinion, but others clearly think he is. We'll have to agree to disagree.

Burton is a proven matchwinner - has been in many games. However, I never made claim he was a gun or a superstar, which is another matter entirely! He would need more consistency to become a gun IMO.

 

[jackdidntdoit]

Birdman rocks!!!

 

[Wood_Duck]

I agree with you to some extent, Burton on a wing is counter productive. However, Burton in the forward line could be a whole different story.

Springy, I can only hope that the bit you agree with is not his shot at me. I've already been hurt enough.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Springy, I can only hope that the bit you agree with is not his shot at me. I've already been hurt enough.

No I wasn't agreeing with his shot at you, I was agreeing with his summation of Burton, to a certain extent. He must be played up forward IMHO.

 

[Wood_Duck]

No I wasn't agreeing with his shot at you, I was agreeing with his summation of Burton, to a certain extent. He must be played up forward IMHO.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

I agree with you to some extent, Burton on a wing is counter productive. However, Burton in the forward line could be a whole different story.

While I agree that he should be tried up the front end more, it would IMHO be a waste not to use his aerobic capacity at some point to get into the middle and burn off the opposition.

As already said he was burning in the first game and using the ball better than I had seen in a long time.

 

[NikkiNoo]

I agree with you to some extent, Burton on a wing is counter productive. However, Burton in the forward line could be a whole different story.

hmm i seem to remember certain people bagging him for flying at every ball that came into the forward lines and spoiling our own players. No matter where he goes he will be bagged. But I think there has been a marked improvement in the game that I saw against the weagles (maybe this little thing called confidence that if you make a mistake you are not gonna get crucified by the coach). I also believe that if he had of not been injured and taken off then they may have won the game as he was the man stopper in the midfield of preventing the weagles from delivering the ball cleanly into their forwards. When he went off the others did not step up to take his place at least this has been rectified at the moment.

 

[johnnypanther]

easily in my best 22 and a potential matchwinner

i rate him as a good 2nd tier player who could become a 1st tier player if he worked on his kicking skills - by that i mean he has to not just practice his kicking but to actually change the way he kicks - surely there is a coach that can teach him that!

 

[Stiffy_18]

Stiffy, if the Count who apparently rivals Burton in his athleticism, and who's composure, decision making and skills are arguably better at 18 than Burton's are at 26, went at 24 then do you really think Burton would be a top 20 pick as an 18 year old?

I've got no vendetta against him, and I really hope he comes back into the team and plays some great footy......primarily up forward.

But you are forgetting that VB was a very good chance to go @ 18 to Brisbane and their recruiting manager said they were going to pick him up but when Cameron Wood was there they just couldn't pass him up.

I honestly think Burton would go top 20 based purely on his athletic ability. Thats one of the main areas recruiters are looking at these days.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Matchwinner is a term like superstar, or the great man, which are used far too liberally in footy today in my opinion. Brett's a good player. A valuable contributor with fantastic aerobic capacity and a great work ethic. He's not a gun in my opinion, but others clearly think he is. We'll have to agree to disagree.

As I said before, when he comes back into the team I hope he plays some great footy......preferably up forward.

No match winner is a term used on a player that can turn in on and win a game off their own boot with a sensational burst. Burton is one of those players and he has done it a number of times in his career.

Match winner and superstar are completely different things IMHO. You can be a good player but still be a match winner ala Burton.

 

[- PC -]

I made a comment in another thread that in the Showdown we went more direct..and I mischeviously wondered if it was a result of Burtons absence. I stand by that a little..I wouldnt drop him..but I dont know if I would play him on the wing.. I do like the idea of him being in the forward line over Perrie