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The worlds richest two year old race is to be run this Saturday. To see the final field and barriers go to http://www.stc.com.au/verve/_resources/GoldenSlipper_Field_Post_Barrier_Draw__2.pdf

On TAB fixed odds Sebring (barrier 6) has come up $4.80 which I think is too short. I think the value runners are Reann from barrier 4 at $17, Stripper with Jeff Lloyd riding from barrier 5 at $21 and Hips Don't Lie with Beadman giving her an automatic 2 length start on the field from barrier 9 at $15.
 
On the same wavelength as you Master...

Despite its horrible performance in the Todman (which was won by Krupt) I am going to have a nibble at Reaan. He raced on the wrong leg to a point where C.Williams had to pull it up at the turn to straighten up. If you have access to video replay of the race, it's worth a look. Happy that D. Dunn is taking control, seems to bob up in the big ones... Reaan won a barrier trial by 10 on the weekend against what Hayes stated were a bunch of hacks. Still wobbled so it will be a risk, but at those odds, worth a nibble.

Stripper and Portillo are good chances with strong form around Sugar Babe (who has cost me plenty over the past 6 weeks :mad:). The babe will strip a lot fitter than Saturday when she had put on 24kgs since he 5th in the Millions.

Happy to risk Sebring, She's Meaner & Augusta Proud.
 

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Really tough without knowing how the track will play.
Forecast says slow at best so 85% of them will be seeing it for the 1st time.

As usual,most of them look like they need 1400m at least.
If I bet Ill have something on Related,should have won clearly last start.

seth
 
Anyone else see Augusta Proud's trial at Rosehill? Looked to be struggling a bit... Few of the guys on sky don't think she can win with that type of preperation form; McDonald seems to think she is still alright. This race will be won by the horse that gets a good split at the right time.
 
Christ, this race looks like a dead set raffle!!!

Most of the good chances have drawn wide and the track is likely to be significantly rain effected.

I was keen on All American and Related but it will be tough to win from their wide draws.

I'm sure I'll have a bet but I dont think I'll be putting the house on anything.
 
By the way, Amelias Dream would beat this field by 6 lengths, regardless of track condition or barrier.
 
First round of local footy starts this week so will be relying on my brother yelling the results to me over the fence.

Not a fan of Golden Slipper punting so will leave it be

For what its worth will have something small on princess coup into the hussler
 
Well I'm going to have to go with the form horses Sebring, Portillo, or Augusta Proud.

Probably the hardest slipper for a long time.
Good luck to you all. If you get the winner you will be a happy man
 
I have on good authority that John Singleton has purchased 50% of Sugar Babe for $1 million.

With Singo owning the mother of Sugar Babe it is believed that he was interested in her once she qualified for the Slipper. He estimates that if she wins, she will be worth in excess of $3 million.

My source who is a family member of a part owner who has 10% share (was 20%) but has an extra $200k to pay of recent purchases at MM Sales. Given the cheque for the winner I'd be happy with 10% :cool:
 
I just watched Related's run again, it was absolutely amazing and its changed my mind. In an even year with lots of them looking good 3y.o types but not star 2's I think if he gets a good enough run he will be good enough to beat them. Amelia's Dream was the other horse that looked a special two year old but it's out so I think Related will win. It has gate speed and with the possibility of others from the wide gate dropping back - like Portillo, Von Costa De Hero, Sugar Babe and Burgeis it could get a nice sit from around midfield.
 

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Glad someone started this thread. I havent had a descent look at the field, so I'll wait till tommorow to have a good study. Just joined with IASbet and have got a $150 free bet on the Slipper, ill be sure to have a big each way bet and am already looking towards some of the lesser names for some good value.

All American will have to go close and at its odds im getting excited. Keep the chatting going I need all the help I can get, turning this 150 into lots lots more!!! Fingers crossed
 
Lots of luck with the freebie although I doubt they'll let you bet E/W.

Apparently Stripper is a likely scratching with a hoof problem.

seth
 
Related has drawn off track

If you have a look at the slipper relays from the last 20 years, not too many have ripped down the outside.

Related isn't good enough to do that. If he was a freak he would have won the 2yo race last weekend.

In such an open field you have to go with a horse that has drawn in the first 8 barriers.
 
Theres two ways to look at this IMO.
Historically we know the best horse doesnt always win the Slipper,often its the horse who simply stays out of trouble.
Many would argue that history is less important this year as the qualifying conditions have been changed due to EI.
Does that make it stronger or weaker.....only time will tell.

If we look at barrier history anyway,lets take as a sample any winner whose broken 1.10.....
Ive included Luskin Star who ran 1.10 & many say was the most dominant Slipper winner.
17 horses fit the category,8 winners drew barrier 10 or worse including 2 from barrier 14.
Of the last 8 winners,3 have drawn barrier 11 or worse.

Im not confident inside barriers will be such an advantage on a slow track.

I dont know Related's racing pattern well enough after 1 start to say he's a backmarker.
I do know that he should have won his 1st start clearly & Im not sure he needs to be a freak to win this.
Whatever happens Id rather be on him than the fave who is $4.8 & hasnt raced for 6 weeks.

seth
 
I like Over The Wicket e.w at good odds... Has drawn nicely and should get a nice run off the speed, has handled a wet track in the past and should be strong at the end of the 1200m.
 

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Related looks a real good horse but if New Atlantis couldn't win from an extreme outside barrier, then Related can't.
I really like Krupt but being by Flying Spur, I don't reckon he'll handle the heavy but he may handle slow because his dam is by Hennessy whose stock generally love mud.
Dangers are Sugar Babe and Over The Wicket and if Augusta proud is fit and well, watch out !
 
Krupt is in real doubt,has a stone bruise & will be vetted tomorrow.

New Atlantis? Am I missing some relevance here?
Theres a lot of posters here who seem to know an awful lot about Related based on one run.

seth
 
sethlad said:
Krupt is in real doubt,has a stone bruise & will be vetted tomorrow.

New Atlantis? Am I missing some relevance here?
Theres a lot of posters here who seem to know an awful lot about Related based on one run.

seth
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One run, four runs, wet track, we're all guessing really. Just thought he looked a class above an even lot and so might get a little bit of my money.

Also it hasn't been mentioned here but I heard John Singleton on SEN pretty much say he is looking at buying Krupt as one of his raters thinks its one of the top horses in the race and will most likely win the Sires, and he's looking for a sun of Flying Spur becuase he rates FS as highly as Redoutes and doesn't think there are many quality sons of FS heading for stud in the future. This injury could stuff all those plans up.
He also likes Tinkler and among a few examples liked how he went in there and brought Casino Prince, now he's got a group 1 winner.
 
I wasnt meaning you MB,I actually agree that he should have won.
We are all guessing & everyone is entitled to an opinion.

Lets look at the widely varying opinions of Related
So far it has been stated that Related is:

-A backmarker who isnt good enough to win from the back
-Not a freak
-A good horse but not as good as New Atlantis (1985)

How could anyone know any of this based on one run?

My memory of New Atlantis is that he was a brilliant 2yo but never really went on as an older horse,certainly never won at Gp1.

seth
 

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