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birdmanptr

birdmanptr

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Aug 10, 2004
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GOOD
Trent bloody good
Sloane excellent debut
Comming back from 5 goals down
Mcleod
Tackling

BAD
Giving away 5 goal start

UGLY
Watching Symes having a set shot in the 2nd term
 
Good-
Hentchel's whole game - should have a place in the squad next year, fitness permitting
Sloane - tackle machine. Agree with Commetti's comment "looks like he's straight out of the orphanage"
Everything after half time
The pressure from everyone after quarter time
McLeod in vintage form

Bad-
First quarter

Ugly-
First quarter
 
birdmanptr said:
UGLY
Watching Symes having a set shot in the 2nd term
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GOOD
Hentchel
Winning without Bock
Rutten- thought he did ok, only conceded 3 goals on Franklin
Maric - good around the ground 17 HO
Sloane - promising, show some faith Craig, play him more during a game
Thompson - good as usual
Vince - needs to kick more, much more damaging.
Mcleod was good

BAD/UGLY
Umpiring was a farce, they had 12 more free kicks than we did
Douglas - Im sure the where to now will be brought up again, just not up to it, not sure if he will. I would keep him on the list as a depth player but if he fails to perform when he does have his chances, delist/trade but i doubt anyone would bit.
Symes - Cant kick, he was meant to be dropped a few weeks back, can kick around the backlines pretty well, but his kicking into the 50 is deplorable, cant stand it when he gets the ball.
Just an ugly game of football, it was nice to win, but Hawthorn were terrible, im not taking too much out of this game.
Otten needs a rest, has been a passenger in the last few weeks
Shirley 6 touches, drop him, if we want a tagger use Dogga who can get a few touches/goals, and maybe VB who has a good defensive game.
Sellar - doesn't do enough, not good enough around the ground, not good enough in the ruck. cmon griff perform for centrals. we miss Moran.
 
Good:
Welcome back Rowdy
Great performances from McLeod, Vince, Dogga and Thompson
Sloane - Tackling sensation, will be a star
Comeback after 1st quarter
Tackling

Bad:
Umpiring = disgrace
1st quarter
Douglas - Looking like another wasted 1st round pick
Shirley - didn't do enough

Ugly:
1st quarter
 

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thebirdman 24 said:
Sellar - doesn't do enough, not good enough around the ground, not good enough in the ruck. cmon griff perform for centrals. we miss Moran.
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Sellar did a fair bit around the ground, his 2nd Q was average but his 1st was quite good and his 2nd half was fine.

15 Hitouts
6 Disposals
3 Marks
3 Tackles

Given he gets limited game time thats a pretty serviceable effort.
 
good:

Sloanes hard at it debut
Mcleod's tackling and desposal
Vince
Rutten
A good team effort after qtr time

Bad:
slipping tackles (wrap their freaking arms up)
umpiring towards Hawthorn in the first half and in the gam ein general in the second half

Ugly: 1st quarter

NB: Did anyone else notice Hawthorns gameplan in chipping it through the coridoor of the crows zone? Worked well in some cases I thought. Created run and loose men.
 
thebirdman 24 said:
GOOD
Hentchel
Winning without Bock
Rutten- thought he did ok, only conceded 3 goals on Franklin
Maric - good around the ground 17 HO
Sloane - promising, show some faith Craig, play him more during a game
Thompson - good as usual
Vince - needs to kick more, much more damaging.
Mcleod was good

BAD/UGLY
Umpiring was a farce, they had 12 more free kicks than we did
Douglas - Im sure the where to now will be brought up again, just not up to it, not sure if he will. I would keep him on the list as a depth player but if he fails to perform when he does have his chances, delist/trade but i doubt anyone would bit.
Symes - Cant kick, he was meant to be dropped a few weeks back, can kick around the backlines pretty well, but his kicking into the 50 is deplorable, cant stand it when he gets the ball.
Just an ugly game of football, it was nice to win, but Hawthorn were terrible, im not taking too much out of this game.
Otten needs a rest, has been a passenger in the last few weeks
Shirley 6 touches, drop him, if we want a tagger use Dogga who can get a few touches/goals, and maybe VB who has a good defensive game.
Sellar - doesn't do enough, not good enough around the ground, not good enough in the ruck. cmon griff perform for centrals. we miss Moran.
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Perhaps.. but most of his handballs break the game open!
 
The good

  • Rowdy. Welcome back son.
  • Brad Symes' composure.
  • Rory's debut.
  • Bernard.
  • Stiffy. He mopped up almost everything in the back half.
  • Big Ivan's first half.
  • Benny Rutten did okay on Franklin. I thought without Bocky we would be in real trouble.
  • Mick Doughty kept Rioli down to only a few McAvaney jizz moments.

The bad
  • Richie Douglas. Sorry mate, but you're first out when someone comes back from injury.
  • Our final quarter - 1.7 against a team that had patently given up isn't good enough if we want to last longer than one week in September.
  • Starting both McLeod and Edwards on the bench ... and we cough up five goals.

The ugly

  • The umpiring. **** me sideways they were awful. I thought Hawthorn got pillaged but they won the frees 29-17 - probably because the umps refused to accept a Hawthorn player could ever throw it or get caught HTB.
  • The Rioli-love in the commentary box. Look fellas, I know Cyril's a talent but don't circle jerk every time he gets the footy. At one stage, Rioli had a shot on goal, missed it, and then Commetti said 'but it was a great kick'. No Dennis. A great kick would have been a goal.
 

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OK to be fair I only watched the second half, but umpiring seemed all in their favour. Obviously first half was a different story.
 
Good
Yay! We're in the finals (Unless things go horribly wrong)
Vince - What is it with him and the number 33?
McLeod - Bloody brilliant match.
Hentschel - 4 goals. Nuff said.
Sloane - Tackling machine :thumbsu:
Maric - good solid game by the big man.
Doughty - played like he was 10 years younger.
A great comeback.
Good commentators. Dennis Commetti particularly :)

Bad
Umpiring
1st quarter
Douglas - saw a few good things, but I think he will be dropped next week to make way for Mackay.
Shirley - Didn't do a great deal.

Ugly
Umpiring
1st quarter

Hilarious
Rutten nudging Franklin slightly = Franklin on the ground :D
 
StonesThrow said:
Although a bad display overall, Hawthorn had the worst of it. Actually a couple of decisions got us back in the game if you ask me.
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I jumped the gun purely based on the second half, particularly last quarter. How the hell did they win the free count so comprehensively?
 

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Good:

Sloane's debut, clean hands and hard at the ball
Maric, great effort around the ground. Strong marks
Hentschel
Thompson's 1st qtr goal
Mcleod
Doughty

Bad:

Goal kicking!! Atleast they couldn't kick either.

Ugly:

1st qtr!
Blazing away at goals when we had other options.. If we are going to do that we need to make sure that we kick them!
 
Anyway, based on the second half alone, it was a bloody ugly game and Hawthorn's incompetence let us in. A much needed win and great to see Hentschell back, and Sloane looks like another very promising kid.
 
Good
Rowdy - sharp as ever
Douglas - not his best but played with a lot more confidence
McLeod - gamebreaker
Sloane - magnificent, best no kick debut I've ever seen
Stiffy - very understated performance
Doughty - fought fire with fire against Rioli, a clear win
Sellar - the sort of game he needed to produce to ensure Griffin doesn't become a walk in out of necessity
Maric - fantastic first half
Geez, I could go on and on, there was sooooooo much to like in terms of our personnel tonight, winners all over the ground :thumbsu:

Bad
Our start
Not being able to put the foot down, % COUNTS FELLAS!!!
Shirls - yeah...that wasn't great
5th test is a week away :(


Ugly
Umpiring - some bloody strange decisions both ways...even on the end of a -12 differential I thought we had the better end of the deal at times
 
Good:

Sloane's debut - thats the type of pressure we like to see. Outstanding attack on the ball. If Walker had that intensity he'd be the superstar we all want!

Trent - Great to see him back. let's hope he can run out the season without any issues. Looking forward to see him and Burton in the forward line again.

Johncock - AA surely!!

Otten - seems to be struggling a bit, but his willingness to put himself on the line when required was brilliant. Love this guy.

Maric's first half was fantastic. Really had a crack.

Sellar is great in 5 minute bursts, after that he seems to run out of puff!

Doughty played well on Rioli after 1/4 time.

Vince, Thompson played well.

McLeod fantastic. Nice to see him turn up this week.

Shirley's courage. That attack on the ball in the last quarter was incredible. To be paid HTB against just shows that the pansies umpiring the game must have grown up playing netball as they clearly don't understand what football is about.

Bad:

Symes disposal. It is BAD. He needs to work on it. He does some great things, but if he doesn't fix it he will be on the outside looking in as the young guys come through.

Douglas. Just don't know what to do with this guy. Doesn't seem to have a position or weapon. Makes poor decisions. Not a fan and would be happy to trade him at season end.

Ugly:
Umpiring...AGAIN. Seriously these guys are a joke. They have zero idea on what holding the ball is. NONE. Apparently if you drop or throw the ball away as tackled thats ok, but if you go in hard to win the ball...oh no we can't have that. Oh and there's the other Rioli rule whereby any time he tackles someone he gets a free and he cannot be given HTB against. WTF is going on in this game.
 
good

rory sloane - defensive pressure was great

hentchel - great comeback story

bad

dougie - tried hard, really wanted to plant a spot in the side but unfortunately I can't see him in the side next week. his defensive pressure was good but his goal kicking was crap and wasted a few oppertunities, like when he ignored Tippett and knights.


ugly

umps again, was crap for both sides!
 

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