Speculation Harry Barnett

[txbyhull]

There's a lot of hype around Harry van Hattum. 205cm ruck prospect. Athletic. Size. Presence. Aerial and ground level capabilities.

Having watched Barnett for years including just last week against Peel, I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that his name is also Harry and he's also tall.

Cheers BT

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If he was at a Melbourne based club they'd all be calling him the next Max Gawn

Id say more of the Australian Jim Stynes

 

[TwoStriders]

ChatGPT's irrefutable and objective analysis:

Historical Trade Analysis of AFL Players with the Initials "HB"​

Executive Summary​

This analysis examines the trade returns achieved by AFL clubs when trading players whose initials are HB. While the sample size is limited, the available evidence suggests that HB players have historically commanded strong trade value, with all completed trades in the sample resulting in first-round draft compensation.

Trade History​

Player	Trade	Return
Heath Black	Fremantle → St Kilda (2003)	Pick 13
Harley Bennell	Gold Coast → Fremantle (2015)	Pick 16 and later pick adjustments
Harry Ballard	Not traded	No realised market value

Statistical Analysis​

Sample size: 2 completed trades
Average draft return: Pick 14.5
Median draft return: Pick 14.5
Percentage of trades resulting in a first-round selection: 100%
Lowest recorded HB trade value: Pick 16
Highest recorded HB trade value: Pick 13
Variance: Exceptionally low, indicating remarkable consistency in the HB market.

Market Observations​

A review of historical transactions reveals several notable trends:

1. HB assets consistently attract premium draft capital.
   Both completed transactions resulted in first-round selections despite differing player profiles and market conditions.
2. The HB market appears resistant to external factors.
   Heath Black
   Heath Black

   Age

   47

   Ht

   178cm

   Wt

   82kg

   Pos.

   Mid

   Career

   Season

   Last 5

   D

   19.4

   5star

   K

   12.5

   5star

   HB

   6.9

   4star

   M

   4.2

   4star

   T

   1.9

   4star

   No current season stats available

   D

   12.4

   4star

   K

   7.8

   3star

   HB

   4.6

   4star

   M

   2.4

   3star

   T

   1.4

   4star

   was an established premiership player, while Harley Bennell
   17

   Harley Bennell

   Age

   33

   Ht

   185cm

   Wt

   85kg

   Pos.

   Mid

   Career

   Season

   Last 5

   D

   21.4

   5star

   K

   11.9

   4star

   HB

   9.5

   5star

   M

   3.5

   4star

   T

   2.3

   4star

   CL

   2.7

   4star

   D

   12.7

   3star

   K

   6.0

   2star

   HB

   6.7

   4star

   M

   2.0

   2star

   T

   0.3

   1star

   CL

   1.0

   3star

   D

   17.6

   5star

   K

   8.2

   4star

   HB

   9.4

   5star

   M

   2.4

   3star

   T

   2.6

   4star

   CL

   1.8

   4star

   arrived with significant injury concerns. Despite these differences, the trade outcomes converged around a remarkably similar valuation range.
3. Scarcity may contribute to value.
   Relatively few AFL-listed players possess the initials HB, potentially creating a supply constraint within the marketplace.
4. Untraded HB players may exert upward pressure on valuations.
   The absence of a Harry Ballard transaction leaves open the possibility that the true ceiling of the HB market has yet to be discovered.

Forecast​

Should an HB player be traded in the near future, historical modelling suggests a likely return in the range of:

• Pick 13–16
• Additional pick upgrades or future selections
• Public statements describing the deal as "fair for both parties"

Conclusion​

While further research is required, the available evidence indicates that HB players represent one of the AFL's most reliable trade assets. Across all observed transactions, clubs have secured first-round draft compensation, producing a perfect success rate and an average return of Pick 14.5.
On current data, any HB traded for less than a first-round selection would represent a significant departure from established market precedent and should be treated with caution by list managers.

 

[Mutineer]

This young gun ruckman has been absolutely dominating in the WAFL for the Eagles, but has struggled to get a game due to Bailey Williams' form along with the club prioritising prospects like Jack Williams, Archer Reid, and CDT.

It is expected he will be traded in the upcoming off season for a 2nd round draft pick or equivalent.

Thoughts?

2nd round draft pick?

Gun?
Define Gun?

Surely you're not serious?

Taking the piss yeah?

2 AFL games in 4 years, subbed on or off in both, no AFL games in 2025, no AFL games in 2026.

 

[txbyhull]

2nd round draft pick?

Gun?
Define Gun?

Surely you're not serious?

Taking the piss yeah?

2 AFL games in 4 years, subbed on or off in both, no AFL games in 2025, no AFL games in 2026.

 

[largebus]

Watched him get monstered by the GOAT Liam Reidy last year but apart from that he looks the goods.
7.5 million, 5 year extension at the very least.

 

[RanaNaved]

2nd round draft pick?

Gun?
Define Gun?

Surely you're not serious?

Taking the piss yeah?

2 AFL games in 4 years, subbed on or off in both, no AFL games in 2025, no AFL games in 2026.

The guy has the potential to be the next Dean Cox, been absolutely dominant in the WAFL

 

[Mutineer]

The guy has the potential to be the next Dean Cox, been absolutely dominant in the WAFL

Plays more like a netballer than a footballer.

 

[RanaNaved]

Plays more like a netballer than a footballer.

Obviously you haven't seen him play

 

[Mutineer]

Obviously you haven't seen him play

You'd be wrong there, saw plenty of him for West Adelaide

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

Define Gun?

The thing I want to use on myself at the thought of losing him

 

[Mutineer]

The thing I want to use on myself at the thought of losing him

 

[RanaNaved]

You'd be wrong there, saw plenty of him for West Adelaide

He's obviously developed a shite load since then, absolutely unstoppable force of nature in the WAFL

 

[Mutineer]

He's obviously developed a shite load since then, absolutely unstoppable force of nature in the WAFL

I was just hoping and praying the Crows didn't pick him when there was talk that we had interest.

Dodged a bullet there.

 

[RanaNaved]

I was just hoping and praying the Crows didn't pick him when there was talk that we had interest.

Dodged a bullet there.

I heard the Crows are one of the most interested in trading for him....your 1st with Barnett and our 3rd going your way would probably be around the mark I would suspect

 

[THE_GUN]

Surely this would have to be a salary dump by the eagles
what pick is being traded with this guy

 

[rye]

Surely this would have to be a salary dump by the eagles
what pick is being traded with this guy

west coast should definitely look to salary dump a guy who is out of contract this year

 

[eaglespremiers]

This young gun ruckman has been absolutely dominating in the WAFL for the Eagles

 

[Dregen Hellacopter]

I heard the Crows are one of the most interested in trading for him....your 1st with Barnett and our 3rd going your way would probably be around the mark I would suspect

Plus Dan Curtin heading home to balance the trade.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I get it, trying to tank his trade value so the cats can get him for cheap

I would rather play a 42 year old corpse of Rhys Stanley than Barnett. He'll id probably play mark Blake before Barnett.

 

[txbyhull]

Plus Dan Curtin heading home to balance the trade.

This is the right area for the bones of a deal. I’d hate to see us lose Barnett for nothing

 

[rye]

I would rather play a 42 year old corpse of Rhys Stanley than Barnett. He'll id probably play mark Blake before Barnett.

can we get your full list of ruckman that you would play before harry barnett

 

[RanaNaved]

I would rather play a 42 year old corpse of Rhys Stanley than Barnett. He'll id probably play mark Blake before Barnett.

We get it, as mentioned before you're just trying to tank his trade value. It won't work

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We get it, as mentioned before you're just trying to tank his trade value. It won't work

'Trade value'? Ahhaha

 

[Pure_Ownage]

can we get your full list of ruckman that you would play before harry barnett

It might break chiefs rules for post length.