Heritage Round

[Punchy Bassett]

The SANFL is our heritage... but like I've said previously, if we wear anything, let it be from the AFC history, like the 1996 preseason jumper.

I loved that jumper it was awesome, and now that Adidas are our kit sponsors again see no reason why it couldn't be worn as they were the ones that originally produced it.

 

[raboyle]

They got the 2006 one right, I reckon.

Wearing their usual strip, but with the colours of all the SANFL clubs of the 80's in small stripes on one side of the club coat of arms.

I hear, however, that the old white-panel State jumper may be the avenue taken.

 

[Gets!]

raboyle has the 1996 pre season guernsey...oh and how much do ya want for it mate? seriously

 

[raboyle]

Sorry... I ain't letting go of that one!

We should petition the club to bring that back for the NAB Cup next year!!!

 

[beck*]

I really, really wanted one, and that year for my birthday my parentals got my the regular home and away guernsey, collar and all...

 

[raboyle]

I've got more than that in the my collection.

 

[beck*]

I'm jealous

 

[raboyle]

'04 AFC heritage jumper and framed CDFC jumper with siggies from '03 premiership team.

Other fully signed gear:

'05 AFC heritage jumper
'06 AFC heritage jumper
'04 CDFC jumper with premiership team signatures
'05 CDFC jumper with premiership team signatures
'06 SANFL state jumper -- signatures of team that played WAFL
'03-'04 Adelaide United NSL home strip

Other stuff
AFC Pre-Season jumper (couple of siggies)
AFC road-sign away jumper
Adelaide United A-League strip & NSL strip

 

[relapse]

Thanks for the English lesson matey, but I'm well aware of what heritage means.

Still doesn't sway my belief that we shouldn't wear individual SANFL club guernseys or the State guernsey for that matter.

It's a SANFL representative jumper not a "state" jumper. Otherwise why are a whole heap of vics running around in the jumper in the annual SANFL V VFL game ???

IMO there is no such thing in football as a state jumper, even the state of origin was which league the player started in hence why Carey played once for us. This jumper has always been a representative jumper of the SANFL and not indicative of being a South Australian.

 

[raboyle]

Same jumper, different levels.

AFL State of Origin -- state jumper
SANFL & Amateurs -- rep jumper

 

[tribey]

It's a SANFL representative jumper not a "state" jumper. Otherwise why are a whole heap of vics running around in the jumper in the annual SANFL V VFL game ???

IMO there is no such thing in football as a state jumper, even the state of origin was which league the player started in hence why Carey played once for us. This jumper has always been a representative jumper of the SANFL and not indicative of being a South Australian.

Eh?

Where did I mention anything about who actually gets to wear it vis-a-vis their state of origin etc? ie "Wah wah Reilly can't wear it he is a Victorian " - it's far simpler and less jingoistic than that.

The reason we shouldn't wear the state guernsey is because at any level, to be selected to represent either your state or league is an honour above and beyond club football and it should remain that way.

If Jezza Clayton (Vic.) or Brett Backwell (Qld.) wear the red, blue and gold state jumper in the service of the SANFL that's fine - they've earned that privilege.

The Adelaide Football Club is just that, a club, and as such the State guernseys - past or present - should be offlimits.

 

[relapse]

Eh?

Where did I mention anything about who actually gets to wear it vis-a-vis their state of origin etc? ie "Wah wah Reilly can't wear it he is a Victorian " - it's far simpler and less jingoistic than that.

The reason we shouldn't wear the state guernsey is because at any level, to be selected to represent either your state or league is an honour above and beyond club football and it should remain that way.

If Jezza Clayton (Vic.) or Brett Backwell (Qld.) wear the red, blue and gold state jumper in the service of the SANFL that's fine - they've earned that privilege.

The Adelaide Football Club is just that, a club, and as such the State guernseys - past or present - should be offlimits.

But you're contradicting yourself, in one breath you are saying it is a state jumper and in another breath you are saying it is a representation of the SANFL. I am merely saying that the jumpers are a SANFL representative jumper and not a "state" jumper so to speak.

Hence the reason why Adelaide have chosen to wear them, not because they represent South Australia even though in some quasi way they do, but because the represent the SANFL just the same as Jeremy Clayton does when he wears it. He isnt representing South Australia he is representing the SANFL.

 

[relapse]

Same jumper, different levels.

AFL State of Origin -- state jumper
SANFL & Amateurs -- rep jumper

Dont agree, its a representative SANFL jumper its the only logical link between the two.

If they had specific jumpers for state of origin that would be one thing, but every side that represents the SANFL uses that jumper therefore it cannot be defined IMO as a state jumper.

 

[Mr Crow!]

In my opinion, this is EASILY our best heritage jumper:

http://www.bomberblitz.com/~rmered/images/Adelaide-Heritage-2005.gif

Wish it was for sale!

On a different note... given that the Crows celebrate their heritage by coming from the SANFL, for Heritage round, we should wear each year a different SANFL team jumper... starting with the Port Adelaide Prison Bar Jumper!

2008 Port Adelaide Jumper
2009 Norwood Jumper
2010 South Adelaide Jumper
Etc...

Isn't it ironic that our heritage is shared with Port Adelaide... yuck!

 

[tribey]

But you're contradicting yourself, in one breath you are saying it is a state jumper and in another breath you are saying it is a representation of the SANFL. I am merely saying that the jumpers are a SANFL representative jumper and not a "state" jumper so to speak.

How is it a contradiction to say that State guernseys should be reserved as a privilege for Origin and Representative games above and beyond club football?

Hence the reason why Adelaide have chosen to wear them, not because they represent South Australia even though in some quasi way they do, but because the represent the SANFL just the same as Jeremy Clayton does when he wears it. He isnt representing South Australia he is representing the SANFL.

The Adelaide Football Club represents the Adelaide Football Club on the field in the Australian Football League club competition.

The SANFL select squad to face the VFL/WAFL/TFL/NTFL represents the SANFL on the field in what are generally called 'State' games.

If you want to be pedantic with the terminology, it is still a privilege above and beyond club football - something to earn - the best of the best. Clubs should not wear State or Representative guernseys by default.

 

[Seanason]

We are formed from SANFL.

SANFL league is our heritage, not the clubs from inside it.

State Jumpers are the way to go.

And Poo fans that are having a whinge about barracking against a state jumper - realise that we have the state colours. We were formed from the State league. You were supporters until your new team came along - if heritage round existed back in the day you would have no quams with the state jumper - probably would have encouraged it.

We support the prison bar guernsey, so Support our jumper or **** off.

"We are the team for all South Australains

 

[tribey]

State Jumpers are the way to go.

No.

And Poo fans that are having a whinge about barracking against a state jumper - realise that we have the state colours. We were formed from the State league.

I think you'll find a helluva lot of Crows fans disagree with wearing the state guernsey.

 

[Red Crow]

I think you'll find a helluva lot of Crows fans disagree with wearing the state guernsey.

gotta be honest... not too sure about that. I think you are the only one I have come across so far.

 

[RoosterLad]

I'm not keen on Crow players wearing our state guernsey as that is an honour, it has to be earnt. We should just wear some guernsey we wore in the 90s or even not bother with heritage round at all.

 

[tribey]

gotta be honest... not too sure about that. I think you are the only one I have come across so far.

Thing is, this debate has come up numerous times before in the past so many years - and previously practically everyone has rejected the idea of wearing a State guernsey with only a few people saying yes to it.

From memory Stiffy18, Noddy, Macca23, ant and a lot of the other regulars are in my camp - provided they haven't changed their minds since 2005.

The other issue is, what happens if Origin comes back now that the IR gimmick looks dead?

I repeat. The State/Representative guernseys should be reserved as a privilege above and beyond club football - not as a default club guernsey to assuage a gimmicky circle-jerk for Victorian clubs.

 

[Red Crow]

I'm not keen on Crow players wearing our state guernsey as that is an honour, it has to be earnt. We should just wear some guernsey we were in the 90s or even not bother with heritage round at all.

but the problem is that the current jumper is basically exactly the same as our first guernsey except that the numbers now have white outlines, and there is blue stripes up the side. But they can't be removed because thats just the way the guernseys are manufactured. so original guernsey versus not bothering is pretty much the same thing.

i do like the idea of an SA state guernsey because it represents what we were fromed from, the SANFL, or if you like, South Australian football. I must stress though that i AM NOT FOR wearing the current SA jumper, only past versions.

 

[RoosterLad]

but the problem is that the current jumper is basically exactly the same as our first guernsey except that the numbers now have white outlines, and there is blue stripes up the side. But they can't be removed because thats just the way the guernseys are manufactured. so original guernsey versus not bothering is pretty much the same thing.

i do like the idea of an SA state guernsey because it represents what we were fromed from, the SANFL, or if you like, South Australian football. I must stress though that i AM NOT FOR wearing the current SA jumper, only past versions.

Well then so be it, I don't give a shit about the AFL's version of Heritage Round. It's just a weekend where vic clubs can reminisce about the times when they played in every grand final and didn't have to worry about those pesky interstaters.

 

[Red Crow]

Well then so be it, I don't give a shit about the AFL's version of Heritage Round. It's just a weekend where vic clubs can reminisce about the times when they played in every grand final and didn't have to worry about those pesky interstaters.

True... i am starting to come to the belief that the AFL should just do away with it. Alot of clubs are out of options now anyway, and are just re-hashing the same ones again. And there is too much bitching about it.

Get rid of it, and just let individual clubs wear "heritage" guernseys in significant games or something if they like. I would love to see Carlton in their old 1930's - 1996 CFC style jumper playing Collingwood in their white with black stripes jumper.

But if they persist, I think we should wear an old state guernsey as it best represents our heritage.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Thing is, this debate has come up numerous times before in the past so many years - and previously practically everyone has rejected the idea of wearing a State guernsey with only a few people saying yes to it.

From memory Stiffy18, Noddy, Macca23, ant and a lot of the other regulars are in my camp - provided they haven't changed their minds since 2005.

The other issue is, what happens if Origin comes back now that the IR gimmick looks dead?

I repeat. The State/Representative guernseys should be reserved as a privilege above and beyond club football - not as a default club guernsey to assuage a gimmicky circle-jerk for Victorian clubs.

I haven't changed my mind but I have come to the realisation that the club wants to participate in the Heritage round for simple reason, $$$$$$

They will once again adapt a state jumper or just design something new. That way they can sell some of those "limited edition" jumpers and get some money out of it.

I personally find all this heritage rounds as AFL taking the piss out of all the non victorian clubs.