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I 100% agree on that 1 - 100 points in the first quarter it just plain silly !

One things for sure is I have figured out how to play bots :thumbsu:

indeed, but theres no point as its almost impossible to lose to them.

how are the old tactics holding up? I havent made any tactical changes since the start of the season.

only up 1 point in my match against a human, havent bothered to unlock the match as im guaranteed a top 4 finish this season either way, im actually playing a 2nd string lineup. Seem to be besting them in all areas other than scoring shots, but they have a clear, and inexplicable dominance in hitouts from the ruckman, 16-5. Im expecting that to clear up and my firepower to kick in.

given your obvious and continued attention to tactics, im guessing i wont be beating you without great difficulty in div 1.
 
indeed, but theres no point as its almost impossible to lose to them.

how are the old tactics holding up? I havent made any tactical changes since the start of the season.

only up 1 point in my match against a human, havent bothered to unlock the match as im guaranteed a top 4 finish this season either way, im actually playing a 2nd string lineup. Seem to be besting them in all areas other than scoring shots, but they have a clear, and inexplicable dominance in hitouts from the ruckman, 16-5. Im expecting that to clear up and my firepower to kick in.

given your obvious and continued attention to tactics, im guessing i wont be beating you without great difficulty in div 1.
It's an interesting 1 all the tactics as the reality is that I don't have a active human team in my league so I'm going to be playing bots for the next three months at least so I've decided that I'm doing little in my tactics and aiming 4 a team of high rating players and im going to smash as many bots as I can :)
Funny thing about div 1 will b that there will only b 4 human teams in it next season so its gonna take some time to push all the bots out of div 1 - over a year at least.
We will play each other once or twice in the season at most so there will b little competition between us :) maybe meeting in grand finals at most .... hence if I I can figure put how to beat bots by a massive margin I may have the chance to hold top spot over u and win some league titles ;)
I'm pretty sure if u played me in a friendly u would win because the tactics I've set are 4 bots only - they work against most teams but there r at least 3-4 teams including yourself that would beat the current bot tactics I have set and probably by some margin too
 

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had to fire a rocket up a few of my guys. only narrowly winning our game, but mostly due to the ME change in that players are going for marks more. bot is just camping out on the goal line and has stopped at least 10 goals from going through, by it via a mark or a rushed behind.

tactics are always subjective tho. i'm hesitant to cater mine just for bots atm because i'd like to be able to come up with a layout that can go up against any opponent
 
btw Golden G let me know how Rischitelli goes for you! where do you think you'll play him? (if at all)
I liked ur comment on his page saying he is useless :) I've played him once in the ruck to c how he went - 13 hit outs and 3 kicks pretty good in 1 quarter . I've planed to use him mainly as backup ruck with possible goal square ff .
With the increase of marking I thought his height may get him a goal or two ;)
 
had to fire a rocket up a few of my guys. only narrowly winning our game, but mostly due to the ME change in that players are going for marks more. bot is just camping out on the goal line and has stopped at least 10 goals from going through, by it via a mark or a rushed behind.


Agreed. This was a huge issue in my last game. I didn't realise but there were 21 rushed behinds. Basically every kick is landing on the goal line and being marked/dropped and rushed.

Seems to be happening again. With about 5 or so rushed behinds in my first quarter. A somewhat more reasonable score line though of 29-8 or something.
 
Agreed. This was a huge issue in my last game. I didn't realise but there were 21 rushed behinds. Basically every kick is landing on the goal line and being marked/dropped and rushed.

Seems to be happening again. With about 5 or so rushed behinds in my first quarter. A somewhat more reasonable score line though of 29-8 or something.

i don't mind it too much tho, cos my forwardline is set up to have shots from around 40m out, which means that the ball would be at about the height where it is able to be touched. it's something i'll have to adjust to by pushing my forwards closer to goal i guess. as long as my guys can do it at the other end then i dont mind!
 
I liked ur comment on his page saying he is useless :) I've played him once in the ruck to c how he went - 13 hit outs and 3 kicks pretty good in 1 quarter . I've planed to use him mainly as backup ruck with possible goal square ff .
With the increase of marking I thought his height may get him a goal or two ;)

how's he going with following the ball and getting involved in the play? because that was my issue with him. seemed like no matter where i put him, he'd just "run to position" more than anything, despite his "strong" will to run with play.
 
about to go back on the draft to look for young talent what are the best skills and player traits to look for?
 
having a friendly against the star bolts, im guessing thats your "bot" Golden G?

also took one against you and depth, my tactics are probably fairly dated now, not expecting big things.

Yep Bashing Stars Bots is my bot team. I have left the original tactics and put players as in the original team when i took over. I use this team to test players so that I can get an idea of how each player changes with the changes in the ME. If funny though because the team is actual quite good pushing most teams but doesnt win. Best win ive had is 80 to 0 :thumbsu:
Ive also left it as is for its league game and it is bashing a bot by 140 pts :eek:

You did good in our friendly only went down by 10 or so and that is with old tactics :thumbsu: a little tinker and u will b back on track :)
 

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about to go back on the draft to look for young talent what are the best skills and player traits to look for?
Im of the theory that u should try and get kids with high overall rating and play them in all parts and c how they go. It really hard to tell how good a player is until u watch them play.
However if you want a forward go for high marking and kicking. For a ruck - high jumping. Defender - probably high marking and long kicking and speed also helps too.
I always look at the player traits and get players that want the ball.

Kerleys Ghost guide to setting up your team earlier in this topic is really great way to start. Follow it and get rid of most of your original players and head to the draft and pickup as many high rating players as u can. I reckon most of the original player u get in your squad r duds. There r heaps of great player in the draft going begging. Don't be afraid to de-list players - your admin rating matters little in the lower division its only important when trying to land the big fish players with ratings around 50 and most of them want div 1 or 2 anyway.

Good luck and hope you can get your first win :thumbsu:
 
how's he going with following the ball and getting involved in the play? because that was my issue with him. seemed like no matter where i put him, he'd just "run to position" more than anything, despite his "strong" will to run with play.

Yep you right about Mr Richie he loves to get back to his original spot and doesnt get in the play that much but he does good when he gets near the ball. Tends to hand pass way too much though .... Im thinking that he could be good as a full forward as he will just sit in the goal square and wait for the ball ... ive set up a friendly wiht him as FF and i post the result :thumbsu:
 
had to fire a rocket up a few of my guys. only narrowly winning our game, but mostly due to the ME change in that players are going for marks more. bot is just camping out on the goal line and has stopped at least 10 goals from going through, by it via a mark or a rushed behind.

tactics are always subjective tho. i'm hesitant to cater mine just for bots atm because i'd like to be able to come up with a layout that can go up against any opponent

Yeah i can understand about not wanting to change the tactics 4 bots but I took a screen shot of my good tactics and kept them while I play around with bots. I thought that i would get smashed by every1 using bot tactics but I was surprised how well the bot tactics work against most human teams though.
 
i don't mind it too much tho, cos my forwardline is set up to have shots from around 40m out, which means that the ball would be at about the height where it is able to be touched. it's something i'll have to adjust to by pushing my forwards closer to goal i guess. as long as my guys can do it at the other end then i dont mind!

Another thing could be like what I outlined with Mr Richie - just get a player with high marking and sit him in the goal sqaure. You can them have more player having shots from the 50 arc and when they drop short Mr Richie is their to clean up :thumbsu:
 
They should really try funnelling the human teams into as few leagues as they can. Divs/Leagues should be mainly human teams, not the other way round.
 

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They should really try funnelling the human teams into as few leagues as they can. Divs/Leagues should be mainly human teams, not the other way round.

Yes that is true and I get the feeling thats what Tony is doing as in HTB - Div 3 each league has 14 human team in them. Although half of the those teams would be abandoned by now....
 
Yes that is true and I get the feeling thats what Tony is doing as in HTB - Div 3 each league has 14 human team in them. Although half of the those teams would be abandoned by now....

i think the problem was that the humans were spread out instead of filling up each league as they signed up. (at least, this is what happened in div 4). when i went to take a look months ago, every league in div 4 had about 1-3 humans in them - that coulda been condensed into a few human leagues that woulda encouraged players to stick around
 
i think the problem was that the humans were spread out instead of filling up each league as they signed up. (at least, this is what happened in div 4). when i went to take a look months ago, every league in div 4 had about 1-3 humans in them - that coulda been condensed into a few human leagues that woulda encouraged players to stick around

Yeah I had wondered if Tony at the end of last season would consolidate all the active human teams together that went up a division and leave the other leagues as bots. I tend to think that Tony likes it that way and does not mind if a bot or two gets is flogged or two. I guess he hopes that people will stay around and fight their way up the divisions to end up playing other human active teams in div 2 - 1.

There is probably only about 10 to 20 teams out of 700 flogging bots anyway. From my experience there is really only 20 to 30 human team being logged into everyday too ...
 

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