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Will not play this coming season.
Thats only my opinion, but should he come back and play just before the finals??

Obviously he would have to be ready but Id much rather him refix himself and step aside for Maric. Clarkeys last year Id reckon so Ben needs full recovery until at least nect pre season. He reminds me a lot of Rehn, Redden and those type of blokes I would not like to see a repeat of the Pork Power game where he inoxously (sp) went down.:(

Its not like we are void of Ruck stocks.:) Play em and mould em...let Huddo take time out and then some. It would be folly to risk him.

Hes not mt of leadership skills either. I could see him helping the younger talls. Hes been around the block you know... we just need him to come back.

Those calling for his comeback this year be danged!!:thumbsd:
 
yeah make him sit out the whole of next season to make sure he is fully fit for 07, plenty of blokes like Primus and Darcy have come back and stuffed their knee again straight away. would not like to see this happen to the great man
 
As soon as the injury happened, I wrote off 2006 for him. He really shouldn't rush this. There is no need. I am sure he wants to come back for the finals but he is better off givng his knee as much time as possible and not rush back and risk re-injuring it.

Nothing to gain by "rushing" him back.
 
RoosterLad said:
yeah make him sit out the whole of next season to make sure he is fully fit for 07, plenty of blokes like Primus and Darcy have come back and stuffed their knee again straight away. would not like to see this happen to the great man
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Agree with you & tj.

No footy until 07 & no competitive training until next years pre-season.
 

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Yeah, can't see the sense rushing him back for a few games in 2006, when he can effectively be given a 18 month or recovery period by playing him again in 2007. This will hopefully reduce the chances of a recurrence of the injury.
 
yeah it's alright to say no football till 07 but remember this man wants to earn his living playing football (o.k he is a physio as well)

your then expecting AFC to pay him from effectively doing nothing ?

I think he will be back in 07' but when is his contract due for renewal ?
 
Capitalist said:
yeah it's alright to say no football till 07 but remember this man wants to earn his living playing football (o.k he is a physio as well)

your then expecting AFC to pay him from effectively doing nothing ?

I think he will be back in 07' but when is his contract due for renewal ?
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End of 2007 season
 
Just playing the devils advocate role on this topic and looking at it from a selfish point of view, Ben Hudson has to comeback as soon as possible.

Ben Hudson should be given the right to fight for a place in the side once the club doctors are happy with his rehabilitation from injury. After 10 months the knee is fully healed and ready for competitive work, Luke Darcy’s knee would have gone anyway regardless if it was 8 months or 18 months it was just the pressure and movement he put on that part of his knee. It simply was an innoxious movement that created the stress on his knee to give way.

No one can predict how Ben Hudson will go or if he will do his knee again. If Ben Hudson prematurity put his comeback on hold until the begging of 2007 and he could still potentially do some innoxious movement that tears his ACL, after 12 months; time cannot be used as a deterrent for playing. The knee will be find if he follows his rehabilitation as I sure he would.

Neil Craig and the coaches at the AFC cannot promise a spot for Ben Hudson so he must try and get back as soon as he is healthy and fully fit because 12 months is a very long time and anything could happen between now and by the beginning of 2007.

Maric and Meesen will be looking to play AFL on a full time basis and Rhett Biglands has the opportunity to grab the first ruck spot by the throat. If one or both of them get an opportunity in 2006 to impress and Ben Hudson’s takes the opportunity wait until 2007 his spot on the AFC list could be lost. Ben Hudson could go from being the number 1 ruckman in 05 and by the beginning of 07 he could be the number 4 or 5 on the list, behind Biglands, Meesen, Maric and Griffin.

In business you never give your assistant an opportunity to out shine you and increase his/her career path at a faster rate then you, so why should Ben Hudson give someone an opportunity to someone to take his spot?

He has to take the risk and play in 2006 or potentially loose everything he has worked so hard for, because something innoxious as a twist 18 months down the road could take it away.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
We all want him to play in 2007. Thats why we are suggesting he should sit out 2006 season ;)
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damn typo :o

I mean he will play in 06 - he doesn't want to spend 07 fighting to get back in the team, will need 06 to regain his place and 07 to hold it

considering his age and the fact that we have younger ruckmen coming through
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
If either Maric or Meesen make the grade in 2006, I expect Huddo would replace Biglands in 2007.
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What if Rhett Biglands excels with the added responsibility as the potential number 1 ruckman and Meesen or Maric take that step needed?

It’s extremely dangerous to give someone that opportunity to take what you have worked so hard for.
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
If either Maric or Meesen make the grade in 2006, I expect Huddo would replace Biglands in 2007.
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Big call - Biglands has become a much better ruckman in the last 2 yrs

I won't be suprised if Biglands holds down the No.1 spot for a few years

how old is he anyhow ?
 
Stiffy_18 said:
28 I think.
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so on the presumption that ruckman become smarter/better as they get older - and also assuming that people agree that his rucking has become much better over the last two years, also taking into account the size and fitness of the man, can someone give me 2 good reasons why he won't be out no.1 ruckman for the next 3 years ?
 
Capitalist said:
so on the presumption that ruckman become smarter/better as they get older - and also assuming that people agree that his rucking has become much better over the last two years, also taking into account the size and fitness of the man, can someone give me 2 good reasons why he won't be out no.1 ruckman for the next 3 years ?
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* Not the smartest footballer around
* Not great in general field play and under Craigy, a ruckman who does the dirty work when the ball hits the ground is worth his weight in gold. Its the reason Hudson was our #1 ruckman before the knee injury.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
* Not the smartest footballer around
* Not great in general field play and under Craigy, a ruckman who does the dirty work when the ball hits the ground is worth his weight in gold. Its the reason Hudson was our #1 ruckman before the knee injury.
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thats 1 reason bundled into 2 descriptions (general field play ?)

but while I do agree that Huddo reach No.1 ruckman during the year - I don't believe he would have reached the heights without Biglands being there, I would also agree that picking Hudsons weak points generally revolved around lack of experience - (i'm not actually sure why I am defending Biglands but anyhow)
Biglands often came is as the bang-crash ruckman when it was needed, his tap work was agruebly better than Hudsons, I would also argue that he is a better resting forward (but a worse defensive ruckman to a point)
and lets not forget that forearm on the freo players head - pure gold :D
 
Capitalist said:
thats 1 reason bundled into 2 descriptions (general field play ?)

but while I do agree that Huddo reach No.1 ruckman during the year - I don't believe he would have reached the heights without Biglands being there, I would also agree that picking Hudsons weak points generally revolved around lack of experience - (i'm not actually sure why I am defending Biglands but anyhow)
Biglands often came is as the bang-crash ruckman when it was needed, his tap work was agruebly better than Hudsons, I would also argue that he is a better resting forward (but a worse defensive ruckman to a point)
and lets not forget that forearm on the freo players head - pure gold :D
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I am not arguing whether or not Rhett's ruckwork is better than Hudson's. Personally, I think Biglands' ruckwork is much better than Hudson's but Hudson is a better player overall.

Before getting injured, Hudson was leading our team in hard ball gets and clearences. Thats just about unheard of from a ruckman.

Hudson is a much better player than Biglands, even though Biglands is better at actual ruckwork.

There is no doubt we lost a bit of drve out of the midfield when Hudson got injured. Both Maric and Meesen are reportedly better in field play than Biglands. Meesen might even be as good a tap ruckman.
 

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Stiffy_18 said:
* Not the smartest footballer around
* Not great in general field play and under Craigy, a ruckman who does the dirty work when the ball hits the ground is worth his weight in gold. Its the reason Hudson was our #1 ruckman before the knee injury.
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Spot on Stiffy.

Biglands big downfall is a lack of a good footy brain & it really hurts us at times. We will find it difficult to win a premiership with him as our #1 ruckman. Quality ruckman lift when really needed - Biglands went missing in the finals.
 
Stiffy_18 said:
I am not arguing whether or not Rhett's ruckwork is better than Hudson's. Personally, I think Biglands' ruckwork is much better than Hudson's but Hudson is a better player overall.

Before getting injured, Hudson was leading our team in hard ball gets and clearences. Thats just about unheard of from a ruckman.

Hudson is a much better player than Biglands, even though Biglands is better at actual ruckwork.

There is no doubt we lost a bit of drve out of the midfield when Hudson got injured. Both Maric and Meesen are reportedly better in field play than Biglands. Meesen might even be as good a tap ruckman.
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well I'll wait and see in '06 i suppose
 
Capitalist said:
so on the presumption that ruckman become smarter/better as they get older - and also assuming that people agree that his rucking has become much better over the last two years, also taking into account the size and fitness of the man, can someone give me 2 good reasons why he won't be out no.1 ruckman for the next 3 years ?
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Just the one is enough.

Waynes World. :rolleyes:
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
If either Maric or Meesen make the grade in 2006, I expect Huddo would replace Biglands in 2007.
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Thats a big call Kane....I like a lot about Biglands. You and Stiffy are the analysts I know... but he played well last year. I more than likely see himself as a mentor (LAST YEAR) about to hit top form. Hes ripe, shown it can be done, strong mark, thumping kick, has grit, and games under his belt to start making an impact.
 
topjars said:
Your harsh:o
I know he has brain fades like Burton and Dogga but Rhett is a great player about to get better
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So TJ, did you think Rhett had a good 2005 finals campaign then?

IMO, is a handy player, but way off being a great player.
 

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