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I'm sorry if this has been already posted but I just read one of the HUN articles and it is contrary to the reports, on bigfooty, about Carlton's pick 4:

Now focussed fully on the oval-ball game, Hurn is firming as Carlton's No. 2 selection, and No. 4 overall, in Saturday's national draft.

Rival club sources yesterday confirmed the Blues were extremely interested in Hurn, who has also been in contact with Adelaide and Port Adelaide.

A Carlton supporter growing up, Hurn, at 188cm and 92kg, says his body is ready to cope with senior football immediately.

"Physically, I would probably be around the mark," he said.
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Is that what mojo and cypher were reffering to in the Dowler thread? Everyone had been saying how Carlton had no interest in Hurn, where did he come from? :confused:
 
ill be extremely dissapointed if carlton choose dowler instead of hurn because we dont need fowards and really if carlton choose dowler thats just telling you the future isnt to bright if carlton are choosing fowards when in reality we are in need of quality midfielders or someone who can play full back
 

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cypher said:
We might need a forward in five years time and this post describes why we should look ahead.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4245285&postcount=15
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but why would we need fowards when we have fevola waite fisher betts whitnal .. if hurn isnt such a good midfielder then should carlton look at getting maybe rider or another classy midfielder like Darren Pfeiffer , who at the start of the year was thought to be the number 1 draft pick ?
 
Funkalicous said:
Hurn all the way baby!!!!!!!!!!
Woooh!!


PS. Sounds like Mojo is full of s***!
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relax buddy mojo is right most of the times so im going to have to go with him on this one .. still you never know who carlton is going to take i guess we gotta just wait and see ...
 
I don't know who's the best on talent but Clarke was considered the best talent earlier in the year.Carlton were thinking about going tall with one before coming to the realisation Murphy was too good to pass up.

If you read the post on the link you'd know Whitnall will be gone in five years, Fevola might be traded next year and Waite and Fisher aren't key forwards who can play CHF or FF on the best defenders.

We might take Hurn who is a HBF like Russell not a midfielder, but Clark, Kennedy and Dowler will be as good investments longterm.
 
And who will give them the ball, Cypher?

I know Wiggins and Prendergast are special talents, but outside of those two we lack quality midfielders.

Let's not lose sight of the big picture. The best thing for the club longterm, is to take the best available players regardless of position. Having said that, I think this club needs leader above all else.
 
What's wrong with Russell, Simpson and Walker who are quicker and fitter than Hurn? They are as likely to play midfield next year without the risk of being exposed closer to goal.

I've only seen Hurn play one game which was a replay and Campbell blew by him to goal because he couldn't turn to get even a hand on him.And that was after Hurn spoilt the ball which landed at his feet and he didn't have the agility to turn to tackle him or force the ball of bounds.


Not saying he won't be good or improve but how many 6'5" KPP do we have that can take a big mark?
 
In the end it doesn't really matter who we pick as whichever area of the ground they play will be an improvement to the current squad. I personally trust the recruiting staff to draft the best player available. Be it Hurn, Kennedy or Dowler. Who cares? They're all better than Sporn.

:D
 

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cypher said:
What's wrong with Russell, Simpson and Walker who are quicker and fitter than Hurn? They are as likely to play midfield next year without the risk of being exposed closer to goal.
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Nothing wrong with Simpson....
cypher said:
I've only seen Hurn play one game which was a replay and Campbell blew by him to goal because he couldn't turn to get even a hand on him.And that was after Hurn spoilt the ball which landed at his feet and he didn't have the agility to turn to tackle him or force the ball of bounds.
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Hurn was suffering from OP all throughout the year. He deserves some slack in regards to current agility. He still has more leadership and natural ability than 99% of the draftees.
 
Funkalicous said:
Nothing wrong with Simpson....
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:p
Hurn was suffering from OP all throughout the year. He deserves some slack in regards to current agility. He still has more leadership and natural ability than 99% of the draftees.
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But we are apparently considering Hurn or Kennedy and I agreed with XXX Kings anyway, but you have to see the reasoning behind and support the decision to draft another 6'5" forward/defender to add to........... um, :confused: Just Hartlett!
 
The fact we are going through a rebuilding phase means we have to basically start from scratch. Meaning we pick the best player available in any position. In a few years time, once we have a core group of players we have selected deeming they were the best available at the time we can start deliberating as to whether we should start drafting players based on the position they play. If we go into the draft on Saturday with plans to draft players because of their position we will end up with a player like Livingston and suffer the consequences for a long time.
 
cypher said:
:p

But we are apparently considering Hurn or Kennedy and I agreed with XXX Kings anyway, but you have to see the reasoning behind and support the decision to draft another 6'5" forward/defender to add to........... um, :confused: Just Hartlett!
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If Kennedy is all that's left at pick 4 I'll be happy to take him (no really, I will). But this Dowler hype is complete nonsense. He was destined to go around pick 8 before the accident. And now people are acting like the car crash has transformed him into Radioactive Man! Huh?! He's in a wheelchair for God's sake. If we're gonna take a punt on a cripple, let it be Muston. He was supposed to be top 3 before his injury, and whoever takes him will get a real bargain.

My problem with Dowler is that he can only play in 1 position. As a forward. That's not good enough! A player that lacks versatility also lacks footy smarts and ultimately that's not gonna help us in the future. This club needs Murphy and Hurn. Two pure leaders that actually want to play for Carlton.
 
Funkalicous said:
If Kennedy is all that's left at pick 4 I'll be happy to take him (no really, I will). But this Dowler hype is complete nonsense. He was destined to go around pick 8 before the accident.
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Says who? Weaver wanted us to overlook Murphy for Kennedy and you're getting your panties in a bunch for overlooking Hurn!
And now people are acting like the car crash has transformed him into Radioactive Man! Huh?! He's in a wheelchair for God's sake. If we're gonna take a punt on a cripple, let it be Muston. He was supposed to be top 3 before his injury, and whoever takes him will get a real bargain.
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We may be able to get a player like Muston later but the gun KPPs will be gone.
My problem with Dowler is that he can only play in 1 position. As a forward. That's not good enough!
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His beap test and speed at the draft camp was as good as Hurn so he may play CHF.
A player that lacks versatility also lacks footy smarts and ultimately that's not gonna help us in the future.
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He has smarts according to reports.
This club needs Murphy and Hurn.Two pure leaders that actually want to play for Carlton
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:confused:
Murphy followed North and would probably prefer Hawthorn if it meant he could stay in Victoria.
 
Funkalicous said:
Hurn all the way baby!!!!!!!!!!
Woooh!!


PS. Sounds like Mojo is full of s***!
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If you read my draft profiles on here and updated on the draft board

The link is here http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211324

you will see that I have Hurn at 2 and have had him there for a long time.

I would love for Carlton to take him at 4. I was just writing up the positives and negatives for every player.

It is called trying to be balanced.

You seem to add nothing to the discussion apart from being abusive.

:thumbsd:
 

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XXX KINGS said:
The fact we are going through a rebuilding phase means we have to basically start from scratch. Meaning we pick the best player available in any position. In a few years time, once we have a core group of players we have selected deeming they were the best available at the time we can start deliberating as to whether we should start drafting players based on the position they play. If we go into the draft on Saturday with plans to draft players because of their position we will end up with a player like Livingston and suffer the consequences for a long time.
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i agree in principle on picking best availabe but we have a glaring hole in our backline, as hard as livo tries IMO he is not the long term solution to KP backmen, so we need to look very hard at using one of our picks on a KPP either to play in the backline or to free up another KP who can go to the backline.

whoever we pick on saturday is going to be a benefit to the Carlton FC and we must remeber there are no quick fixes for us.
 
bibi01 said:
i agree in principle on picking best availabe but we have a glaring hole in our backline, as hard as livo tries IMO he is not the long term solution to KP backmen, so we need to look very hard at using one of our picks on a KPP either to play in the backline or to free up another KP who can go to the backline.

whoever we pick on saturday is going to be a benefit to the Carlton FC and we must remeber there are no quick fixes for us.
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I agree with taking best available. But if it is very close then go for the tall and for the weakness at the club.

Pick 20 would seem to be the position to take a tall player. Bower, Lucy or even Mills. Perhaps we hit the jackpot and Drum drops right down.
Perhaps 36 for Spangher or Obst or another one.

None of the top KPP in the draft play down back this year for anything other than a quater or 2. Clark, Ryder, Kennedy, Dowler or Hughes so we really dont know how they will go if we take 1 of them and try to convert into a backman.

Roughead worked for Hawthorn

but you could come up with just as many failures also.
 
From what I can gather Carlton are going to go with a more possession oriented game plan next year.
A little bit more running and mors horter kicks and less contested stayle of play. Not so many long kicks to CHF.
Now that is a simplified version of things but hopefully it gets the point across.

So some of the midfielders will be trying to fine down as much as they can and get every little bit of extra pace that they can. That includes Teague and Scotland who in particualr played 3 to 5 kgs heavier last year.
Teague really struggled on the quicker guys and needs to make changes and the club are going to do that.

So perhaps it is for that reason that Hurn MIGHT get a look in now. Even though he is not quick the idea of his skills hitting players in a slightly more uncontested style of game from next year onwards.

So perhaps that is why we might consider Hurn when normally he is the sort of player Denis would pass on.



I really do hope we take him.
 
Mojo31 said:
Carlton will be taking a tall at pick 4 and will be Dowler if passes the medical and is available. Then Mitch Clark (our former number 1) and then Josh Kennedy. Not sure who is favoured out of these 2 should Dowler not be chosen.

We have no interest in Shannon Hurn or Ryder and never did
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So which is it Mojo?

You can't have it both ways.

PS. I hope we take Hurn as well...
 
Funkalicous said:
So which is it Mojo?

You can't have it both ways.

PS. I hope we take Hurn as well...
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I dont think we will be taking Hurn at 4.

I think it will be out of the talls and the fitness/medicals.

Dowler/Kennedy and small chance of Clark.

Depending on who the Hawks take at 3.

I believe that Hurn is the best player aside from Murphy but that has nothing to do with who I think Carlton are taking at pick 4.

Do you understand that?

I am taking a break from this board. It is a waste of time.
 
mojo31 said:
From what I can gather Carlton are going to go with a more possession oriented game plan next year.
A little bit more running and mors horter kicks and less contested stayle of play. Not so many long kicks to CHF.
Now that is a simplified version of things but hopefully it gets the point across.
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Now Mojo you know Denis is passed it because he can't adapt and his gameplan now out of date! :p
 

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