if we get the #1 pick

[HBF]

i think any kid that has 36 touches and 6 goals in the SANFL at 17, u guys should go for, as much as the raps on gumbie and sellar, Gibbs has an unmatched record at senior level for a young age, almost in draft history

I just keep thinking of Murphy and Gibbs in the same midfield.

 

[Uhumagoo]

I'd love to get Gibbs, Definately need an injection of class in the midfield but what are the chances of Gibbs wanting to go back to S.A. after 2 years?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I'd love to get Gibbs, Definately need an injection of class in the midfield but what are the chances of Gibbs wanting to go back to S.A. after 2 years?

Didn't his Dad play with Sticks at Glenelg? Sticks was the one that spoke to him in Adelaide several weeks back. He has a lot of respect for Sticks and as long as he is there, Bryce will be comfortable. Remember too that Sticks stayed loyal to the Blues when the Crows were gunning for him. He sets a pretty good example.

 

[HBF]

Didn't his Dad play with Sticks at Glenelg? Sticks was the one that spoke to him in Adelaide several weeks back. He has a lot of respect for Sticks and as long as he is there, Bryce will be comfortable. Remember too that Sticks stayed loyal to the Blues when the Crows were gunning for him. He sets a pretty good example.

I'm sure they would have played at Glenelg together in the mid '80's before Sticks came over to Carlton. I think both families are pretty close. I'd imagine that if Gibbs did come to Melbourne, then Carlton would almost be his preferred, given the Glenelg connection.

 

[trueblue_91]

I'm sure they would have played at Glenelg together in the mid '80's before Sticks came over to Carlton. I think both families are pretty close. I'd imagine that if Gibbs did come to Melbourne, then Carlton would almost be his preferred, given the Glenelg connection.

Just wanting to know a bit about gibbs. I know he allready a gun and gets lots of the ball. But does he have pace becauue that is what we lack atm

 

[btdg]

I have absolutely no faith in our recruiting whatsoever, so I'd have to say take Gibbs - for the simple reason that Adelaide (a good team, with good recruiting staff) wanted him badly enough to try and get the AFL to change the father-son rules so they could take him.

Given our only top-10 pick ever who has actually worked out was taken under similar circumstances (Murphy last year, who Brisbane tried to convince to go to them), I say we take the same option, and just recruit Gibbs. I simply don't trust our recruiting staff to make the right pick otherwise.

 

[HBF]

Just wanting to know a bit about gibbs. I know he allready a gun and gets lots of the ball. But does he have pace becauue that is what we lack atm

He's not lightning, but still quick enough. It's more about his sublime skills and football brain. He's a footballer, not an athlete.

 

[HBF]

I have absolutely no faith in our recruiting whatsoever, so I'd have to say take Gibbs - for the simple reason that Adelaide (a good team, with good recruiting staff) wanted him badly enough to try and get the AFL to change the father-son rules so they could take him.

Given our only top-10 pick ever who has actually worked out was taken under similar circumstances (Murphy last year, who Brisbane tried to convince to go to them), I say we take the same option, and just recruit Gibbs. I simply don't trust our recruiting staff to make the right pick otherwise.

Keep in mind that Wayne Hughes has only been involved in 2 drafts, so it's far too early to judge how his picks have turned out. I think most of us were happy that Shane O'Sullivan was "moved" out of that position as recruiting manager.

 

[fevalenko]

I got a good idea, draft Gibbs wif pick 1 then de-list Livo and give Gibbs number 4, which was of course the great sticks number, wot do u think

 

[trueblue_91]

He's not lightning, but still quick enough. It's more about his sublime skills and football brain. He's a footballer, not an athlete.

I agree with getting gibbs. But jsut thinking we really need to inject some pace in our side. Richmand ran all over us on the weekend. Would like to see a later pick on someone with speed

 

[btdg]

Keep in mind that Wayne Hughes has only been involved in 2 drafts, so it's far too early to judge how his picks have turned out. I think most of us were happy that Shane O'Sullivan was "moved" out of that position as recruiting manager.

Yeah, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the picks from the past 2 years either. Aside from Murphy (who as I mentioned, was a monty because we knew Brisbane wanted him badly) - none of Kennedy, Bower, Edwards, Russell, Hartlett, etc has shown much. Sure its early days, but given 2 years worth of draft picks (Murphy aside) haven't managed to crack it for a single rising star nomination between them, its fair to sat its not time to toast Hughes's praises just yet. Too early to hang him out to dry as well, but at this stage I'd still play it safe and go with Gibbs next year - at least we know Adelaide want him, and that can't be a bad thing

 

[HBF]

I agree with getting gibbs. But jsut thinking we really need to inject some pace in our side. Richmand ran all over us on the weekend. Would like to see a later pick on someone with speed

It will be interesting to see what we do with our Priority Pick and then our second round pick. It will all depend on who we select with our first pick, which I hope will be Gibbs. We really need some mids with some pace, a ruckman and another tall defender. Perhaps we might go with something like:

Pick 1 - Gibbs
Pick 2 - Leuenberger, Renouf or Tippett (Best available ruckman. Ruckman tend to slip come draft day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Leuenberger was still available at 17)
Pick 3 - Reid, Everitt or Brown
Pick 4 - Best available talent.

 

[audas]

I agree with getting gibbs. But jsut thinking we really need to inject some pace in our side. Richmand ran all over us on the weekend. Would like to see a later pick on someone with speed

walker and simmo show a bit.

 

[marcmurphy3]

It will be interesting to see what we do with our Priority Pick and then our second round pick. It will all depend on who we select with our first pick, which I hope will be Gibbs. We really need some mids with some pace, a ruckman and another tall defender. Perhaps we might go with something like:

Pick 1 - Gibbs
Pick 2 - Leuenberger, Renouf or Tippett (Best available ruckman. Ruckman tend to slip come draft day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Leuenberger was still available at 17)
Pick 3 - Reid, Everitt or Brown
Pick 4 - Best available talent.

No ruckman other than Leuenberger would be worth our second pick. I'd rather go for a midfielder laike peterrd or collard with our second pick and then go for nathan brown or another one of these midielders for our priority pick. Would love to get collard as he is very quick and exciting.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

It will be interesting to see what we do with our Priority Pick and then our second round pick. It will all depend on who we select with our first pick, which I hope will be Gibbs. We really need some mids with some pace, a ruckman and another tall defender. Perhaps we might go with something like:

Pick 1 - Gibbs
Pick 2 - Leuenberger, Renouf or Tippett (Best available ruckman. Ruckman tend to slip come draft day, so it wouldn't surprise me if Leuenberger was still available at 17)
Pick 3 - Reid, Everitt or Brown
Pick 4 - Best available talent.

Firstly i do barrack for Carlton

Pick 1 - Gibbs inless they really do rate Gumby or Hansen so highly that they can't pass them up which would be ok because they would have to be good and it might mean they trade a Fisher or someone

Pick 2 - Agree Leuenberger could still be around and if so take him if not Collard who should be around or next best player with pace

Pick 3 - If they go for a defender that probaly means that Bower Hartlett ect are not going to make it in thier eyes but i hope they dont go for Brown as he is not quick and that is what we need a quick defender to play on Croad Riewoldt ect. This may mean that we choose a forward who can be converted as many backman are but they really have to have pace.

Pick 4 - Best of the rest

 

[Napolean]

Yeah, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the picks from the past 2 years either. Aside from Murphy (who as I mentioned, was a monty because we knew Brisbane wanted him badly) - none of Kennedy, Bower, Edwards, Russell, Hartlett, etc has shown much. Sure its early days, but given 2 years worth of draft picks (Murphy aside) haven't managed to crack it for a single rising star nomination between them, its fair to sat its not time to toast Hughes's praises just yet. Too early to hang him out to dry as well, but at this stage I'd still play it safe and go with Gibbs next year - at least we know Adelaide want him, and that can't be a bad thing

You have no idea.

Too early to hang him out to dry, yet we should recruit a player because Adelaide wanted him, not because our recruiting department judges him the best option?

Perhaps we should contract out our recruiting to Adelaide. Should save $$$ for the club which they are short on.

 

[Lance]

Yeah, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the picks from the past 2 years either. Aside from Murphy (who as I mentioned, was a monty because we knew Brisbane wanted him badly) - none of Kennedy, Bower, Edwards, Russell, Hartlett, etc has shown much. Sure its early days, but given 2 years worth of draft picks (Murphy aside) haven't managed to crack it for a single rising star nomination between them, its fair to sat its not time to toast Hughes's praises just yet. Too early to hang him out to dry as well, but at this stage I'd still play it safe and go with Gibbs next year - at least we know Adelaide want him, and that can't be a bad thing

I support you on this one, some of our players drafted over the last few years are not improving enough as I have anticipated. The players you mention, apart from some players who have sustained long term injuries during the season, Bower (Injured knee) and Hartlett (Numerous injuries ..Is he injury prone?) and I'll include Raso as well should all be "knocking on the door" at this stage. The jury is still out about the judgement of Waynes Hughes to pick to gun players IMO.

 

[Bluebear]

Yeah, but I don't have a lot of confidence in the picks from the past 2 years either. Aside from Murphy (who as I mentioned, was a monty because we knew Brisbane wanted him badly) - none of Kennedy, Bower, Edwards, Russell, Hartlett, etc has shown much. Sure its early days, but given 2 years worth of draft picks (Murphy aside) haven't managed to crack it for a single rising star nomination between them, its fair to sat its not time to toast Hughes's praises just yet. Too early to hang him out to dry as well, but at this stage I'd still play it safe and go with Gibbs next year - at least we know Adelaide want him, and that can't be a bad thing

Have you watched Kennedy this year???
Way too good for the two's.
Undersized for seniors at present, but make no mistake, that boy runs to ALL the right spots on the ground. He also gets first hands to loads of pack marking situations. When he is big enough to hold his man off, or pluck the pill in the pack he will be a gun - will play most of next year (barring injury - which is concerning at present) and look for him to be a permanent addition to our 2008 forward line, with Fev and ??? Waite, with Fisher roaming up onto a wing more often (needs to get his endurance up)

P.S. Bower is way too ealry to rate - name one big man from last years draft, or the year before that has had an impact?
They take 3-4 years to develop.
We had two rising star nominations last year - Simo and Bentick.

 

[BlueFeaver]

Hartlett has only had 2 years in the system and they have been plagued with injury. One of my favs, shows plenty of agression.
Bower is still a pup and from what I've seen he will be a gun, the sort that will account for a Buddy Franklin.
Russell shows plenty, the kids got guts, skill and pace. Over time he will develope into a awesome player. He was always going to take time.
Raso was always a roughy, he should be looked at as a first year player now. Beuatiful skills.
Kennedy will be a outright gun CHF. If any one thinks he hasn't shown anything this year, they must not see the games live. The kid works all day and leads into space and creates space as well, it's just unfortunate that being a rookie he gets ignored by his team mates when open.

As for the thread topic, I will say it again. Gibbs is a sure thing.
We are in desperate need of some quality mid-fielders, I worry about drafting a negating player so high (Livo) and I also worry about the side being to top heavy. Hansen is a awesome player from what I have seen but Gibbs is "SPECIAL".

 

[Blue Boys11]

I have heard that Karl Norman has ahd a good year up at Mooroopna. Is he a chance to get drafted. Probably not number one.

 

[btdg]

You have no idea.

Too early to hang him out to dry, yet we should recruit a player because Adelaide wanted him, not because our recruiting department judges him the best option?

Perhaps we should contract out our recruiting to Adelaide. Should save $$$ for the club which they are short on.

Thats my whole point. We don't know enough about Hughes as a judge of talent to take the risk of letting him make the pick. We can't hang hum out to dry, but we can't really trust him yet.

Pretty much every midfielder to start with who goes top 5 ends up being a very good player. KPP are a bit more risky because they take longer to develop. Therefore, Gibbs is the safe pick. Not only that, but a top-2 team wants him enough to pester the league to change draft rules to get him. Gibbs - very safe bet. Anyone else - more risky. We need all the safe bets we can get to improve

I'd be perfectly happy to switch recruiting teams with Adelaide at this point, too.

 

[blangerang]

This was meant to be about Daniel O'Sullivan, maybe i talked him up a bit to much but I believe he could of been the next Shane Clayton with just a bit of luck

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Shane Clayton? Give it a rest will ya!