International Development

Discussion in 'International Footy' started by jatz14, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. jatz14

    jatz14 Premiership Player

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    It isn't picking the right sport, its paying the right amount. Doesn't matter the sport if you paid to much.



    Possible, you could also use the term hypothetical. The great disadvantage of streaming as a medium to leverage is, it tends to be people already aware of what is being streamed who watched. All those Americans who stumbled across AFL on ESPN probably wouldn't have if it was a streamed service. Not saying it cannot be good, but there is a lot of downside if things are not going well.



    That's what media analysts are looking at. "LIVE" is the big attraction.



    Are you able to have a conversation without being condescending? That the industry is moving towards independent suppliers, and that the AFL is ready for this, doesn't mean the AFL comes out ahead, or even equal. Pay TV and FTA pay a premium for what high end sport brings them, this results in the AFL being paid more than what a straight dollars and cents analysis of the value of the sports might indicate. Will distributors like Amazon pay a premium? I think they will for NFL, for AFL? Amazon has actually stated that using NFL to grab audience in places like the UK and Australia is part of their hopes in acquiring NFL content. Buying big sports and packaging them globally suits their profile more than buying local sports to attract a local audience. I do not think the AFLs own service will return the same value long term, certainly the NFL seems to be going to external streamers, not in house.




    Or less? Or a lot less? Certainly not a lot more.
     

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  2. RedV3x

    RedV3x All Australian

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    The AFL deal is mutually beneficial. I cannot say that about most other sporting deals in Australia.

    is simply something to leverage off of when you haven't much else to leverage off.

    The AFL has been reading the market and the market direction expertly so far.
    The market for live sports shows no sign of abating and I see the AFL's service only increasing in value.
     
  3. Gigantor

    Gigantor Brownlow Medallist

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    Agree with Jatz, if overnight the AFL was left to its own devices to stream directly to footy fans, there are no guarantees that it would earn what it currently earns from Foxtel/7.

    It would certainly get nowhere near it by selling subscriptions, the question would be whether it would make up the gap by selling advertising.
     
  4. RedV3x

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    A.t.m. we have the anti-siphoning laws which skew the situation.
    A.t.m. we have Pay TV that skews the situation by paying more than FTA (proportionally).
    A.t.m. AFL streaming is an absolute bargain in comparison to a Fox subscription.
    No doubt the structures would change dramatically if the mix changed.
    IMO it's a pretty good mix a.t.m. with AFL streaming continuing to expand exponentially.
    Maybe those people concerned with the details could start a dedicated thread.
     
  5. RedV3x

    RedV3x All Australian

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  7. RedV3x

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    "The AFL has released the twenty-first intake into Level One of the NAB AFL Academy. Of World Footy interest is the inclusion of 15 year old Hewago "Ace" Paul Oea.

    Ace comes to the Academy via PNG's participation in the AFL Queensland development pathway and first came to prominence when he starred in Queensland's U16 team at the recent National carnival. As well as winning the best on ground medal in the recent International Cup grand final, he has recently also been playing senior football for Broadbeach in the AFLQ competition. "

    http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20170831131951149
     
  8. RedV3x

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  11. TWLS

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    I get a lot of satisfaction out of this news Red - The Administration up there are class acts and are now moving into a new phase, which may need paid administrators down the road.
    The glass up there is now half full and needs to be filled up. What a challenge after starting with a few expats who wanted to have a kick.
     

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  12. TWLS

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  13. RedV3x

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    "Major League Football" has been around a long time and is simply a USAFL metro league.
    Nothing unusual.
     
  14. RedV3x

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    Yes. so professional that I thought the AFL must have been involved.
    It is now up to the AFL leverage the good work.
    So many people here poo-hooed the idea of a world body - "what can they do that a telephone can't ?"
    Here is a concrete example of what working together can achieve.
    Europe achieved a lot with a little help and now the Pacific is expanding with a little help.
    I don't see much help for North America and when you look at the Tulsa Buffaloes' lead you have to wonder why.
    You'd have to be crazy not to follow up on developments in Canada.
     
  15. RedV3x

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    In depth interview with the Vietnam Swans.

     
  16. RedV3x

    RedV3x All Australian

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    Major League Footy has been updated http://majorleaguefooty.info/

    Now has one more team in 14 teams plus a bit about Austus.
    "Major League Football" interestingly was a proposed professional gridiron league that never eventuated.
    Much has been stolen from that proposal.
     
  17. TWLS

    TWLS Team Captain

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    So M.L.F. runs parallel to the USAFL -Very interesting. The biggest problem the former will face IMHO is longevity, can that structure be sustained in a neutral/hostile enviroment.
    Another topic I want to raise is 18 a side football overseas vs 9 a side.
    Just noticed that the IC17 Mens Grand Finalists- PNG and NZ - both have established 18`s Leagues. Does this give them an advantage long term.
    Other countries have regular 18`s such as - Canada, South Africa, England (London),and Ireland (Perhaps).
    Or another reason maybe having their expats in the GF regularly play in Australia. There are very few from Canada and South Africa.
    Will having the same teams dominate the Mens GF cause some problems over time, or will it act as an incentive for the remainder to reach that level.
    It maybe that 9`s will have to do for most countries for many years into the future, which is not a desirable situation.
     
  18. RedV3x

    RedV3x All Australian

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    Still yet to commence according to the countdown clock and they'll need those two months after Irma.


    Having played 18-a-side is definitely an advantage.
    Most countries play 18-a-side at representative level though they might play 9-a-side domestically.
    Not a lot of 18-s-side in Europe, but Croatia doesn't need to.

    The problem with 9-a-side is that it looks and feels exactly like football. (The exact opposite to what trolls say - ha)
    Proper 9-a-side football should look like a shootout.
    So 9-a-side football is the Bees knees in developing football but the aim should always be to produce 18-a-side football.
     

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