Iranian Uprising

[Chris_6678]

Planes back in the air over Iran so back to normal for now?

 

[DaTBird187]

Iranian cargo ship supplying Russia's Ukraine invasion sunk in Caspian Sea:

Must have been sailing to close to a second storey window.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I am booked to spend a week in Dubai late March before heading to Europe for 3 weeks. Returning to Aust via Dubai. Starting to get a little nervous now!

Hardened up and stop being a pussy

 

[nut]

It’s almost like the Lavon affair didn’t happened…

 

[nut]

53K views · 6.4K reactions | ⚡️You don’t get to claim human rights while defending genocide and occupation. If your outrage only shows up when it fits your politics, it isn’t real. #america #europa | Raymonda Hassan

⚡️You don’t get to claim human rights while defending genocide and occupation. If your outrage only shows up when it fits your politics, it isn’t real. #america #europa

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[ferball]

It’s almost like the Lavon affair didn’t happened…

I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Not the least bit surprised.

But how will we ever know?

 

[nut]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is true. Not the least bit surprised.

But how will we ever know?

Well we learn from History …

Israel has a long history of destabilising its neighbours… ever since they were caught bombing Jews in Iraq in the 1950s to scare them into moving to Israel. … Bombing their own buildings in Egypt in the 60’s … there is literally hundreds of examples of Israel doing this.

 

[Not Important]

Jeffrey Sachs is a RT.Com columnist, a former soviet union advisor and a known spreader of disinformation - most it about the US while mostly being a simp for totalitarian dictators - I wonder why that may be.

If he's claiming it there is a very good chance that it isn't true.

Here's some of his fine work including covid19 conspiracies and his love of China and the way it treats Uyghurs:

Jeffrey Sachs | Vatnik Soup

In today’s #vatniksoup, I’ll introduce an American economist and academic and political commentator, Jeffrey Sachs. He’s best-known for his deep hate for the “US hegemony”, and for his love for the totalitarian regimes in Russia, China and in Syria.

vatniksoup.com

Definitely not a reliable source for anything that relates to the US.

not a bad record, most would suggest, i'd have thought. unless you have an u.s/israel bias, perhaps.

"Professor Sachs is a world-renowned professor of economics, leader in sustainable development, senior UN advisor, bestselling author, and syndicated columnist whose monthly newspaper columns appear in more than one hundred countries. He is the Director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University and Special Advisor to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the Millennium Development Goals, which are designed to reduce extreme poverty, disease, and hunger, a position he also held under former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Sachs directs the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network on behalf of the Secretary-General. He has received many honors around the world, including the Sargent Shriver Award for Equal Justice, India’s Padma Bhushan award, Poland’s Commanders Cross of the Order of Merit, and many honorary degrees. He has twice been named among the hundred most influential leaders in the world by Time magazine."
World Bank

anyway, is what prof sachs is putting accurate? i'd suggest there is ample evidence that both the u.s and israel have been working for ages to destabilise iran, militarily, politically, and economically. so yes, is the answer. iran is a horrid regime. but as far as i can recall they haven't initiated an attack on another country as america and israel have done regularly.

 

[Zidane98]

not a bad record, most would suggest, i'd have thought. unless you have an u.s/israel bias, perhaps.

Being an RT.Com columnist, publishing of delusional covid conspiracies and being a former advisor to the Soviet Union is a good record for commenting on anything US related?

Lol. I have a used car to sell you.

"Professor Sachs is a world-renowned professor of economics, leader in sustainable development, senior UN advisor, bestselling author, and syndicated columnist whose monthly newspaper columns appear in more than one hundred countries. He is the Director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University and Special Advisor to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on the Millennium Development Goals, which are designed to reduce extreme poverty, disease, and hunger, a position he also held under former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Sachs directs the UN Sustainable Development Solutions Network on behalf of the Secretary-General. He has received many honors around the world, including the Sargent Shriver Award for Equal Justice, India’s Padma Bhushan award, Poland’s Commanders Cross of the Order of Merit, and many honorary degrees. He has twice been named among the hundred most influential leaders in the world by Time magazine."
World Bank

anyway, is what prof sachs is putting accurate? i'd suggest there is ample evidence that both the u.s and israel have been working for ages to destabilise iran, militarily, politically, and economically. so yes, is the answer. iran is a horrid regime. but as far as i can recall they haven't initiated an attack on another country as america and israel have done regularly.

The answer is simple. Khamenei regime is an absolute dictatorship that has always maintained a policy of murdering those who opposite it.

They've wasted Iran's resources on trying to annihilate Jews and destroying Israel both through their own actions and the actions of terror proxies plus focusing on developing nuclear weapons. The path that Iran has gone down is the choice of Khamenei & his regime, not what the people want. It is driven by his ideologies and does nothing for the state of Iran.

The people appear to have had enough. Protests and disharmony are massive and on a national level. Internet services are not shut down for nearly 8 days day for any good reason.

Apart from the enemy of your enemy is your friend this isn't about the US or Israel at all and trying to portray it in that matter strips away the agency of Iranian people and conveys justification for the actions of the Khamenei regime.

Meanwhile, Russia is propping up the regime with weapons in exchange for Iranian military hardware to genocide Ukranians for nearly 4 years now. China is offering support because it does not want to lose out on cheap sanctioned Iranian oil it needs desperately. Iran making peace with the west is absolutely what Russia & China does not want, even though that is at the expense of the people of Iran.

This is the foreign interference you should be concerned about.

 

[ferball]

Well we learn from History …

Israel has a long history of destabilising its neighbours… ever since they were caught bombing Jews in Iraq in the 1950s to scare them into moving to Israel. … Bombing their own buildings in Egypt in the 60’s … there is literally hundreds of examples of Israel doing this.

True but assumptions aren't necessarily accurate. Even if they are based on reasonable suspicion.

 

[Saint]

Being an RT.Com columnist, publishing of delusional covid conspiracies and being a former advisor to the Soviet Union is a good record for commenting on anything US related?

Lol. I have a used car to sell you.


The answer is simple. Khamenei regime is an absolute dictatorship that has always maintained a policy of murdering those who opposite it.

They've wasted Iran's resources on trying to annihilate Jews and destroying Israel both through their own actions and the actions of terror proxies plus focusing on developing nuclear weapons. The path that Iran has gone down is the choice of Khamenei & his regime, not what the people want. It is driven by his ideologies and does nothing for the state of Iran.

The people appear to have had enough. Protests and disharmony are massive and on a national level. Internet services are not shut down for nearly 8 days day for any good reason.

Apart from the enemy of your enemy is your friend this isn't about the US or Israel at all and trying to portray it in that matter strips away the agency of Iranian people and conveys justification for the actions of the Khamenei regime.

Meanwhile, Russia is propping up the regime with weapons in exchange for Iranian military hardware to genocide Ukranians for nearly 4 years now. China is offering support because it does not want to lose out on cheap sanctioned Iranian oil it needs desperately. Iran making peace with the west is absolutely what Russia & China does not want, even though that is at the expense of the people of Iran.

This is the foreign interference you should be concerned about.

But the reason Iran has to protect itself is because America called it the axis of evil and then invaded Iraq for no reason, killing a million civilians. How else would they avoid America invading?

The only reason Israel and America aren't bombing now is because Iran has missiles which can strike them.

And the reason their economy is failing is because of US sanctions, otherwise it would be as rich as Saudi Arabia, with or without a missile program or nuclear program.

And don't tell me they needn't fear US interference, it's practically their whole last 100 years.

You're pretending Iran chose military spending completely out of the blue. But the USA keeps attacking Iran.

If the US and UK hadn't interfered, Iran might well still be a democracy.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Given the footage of Lindsey Graham almost in tears, I'm guessing there won't be major American involvement imminently.

They'll try again soon I'm sure, in the meantime will continue crushing the economy with sanctions, doing their best to stir up violence on the streets, encouraging what they term terrorism domestically. Not in the interests of the Iranian people, just chaos and instability.

 

[Zidane98]

Foreign intervention at play





Those who win if the Khamenei dictatorship survives:

Russia (relies on Iran for military hardware)
China - cheap oil from Iran
N Korea - as above
Hamas / Hezbollah / Houthis - keep their main sponsor

Those who lose if Iran reform, agrees peace with West

• People of Iran
• Saudi Arabia (increase on world oil supply drives prices down)

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[stax on the mull]

If you can get over the amount of times Sina Toossi says "y'know" this is an informative discussion on Iran and the where the support is for the protest movement inside Iranian society and its history, the influences from outside countries, the effects of sanctions etc.

Good questions with long answers more so than the bunch of random wishcasting social media posts here. Something other than America and Israel is going to come in and help fix Iran so that the women there don't have to hide their hair anymore.

 

[Baldur]

Foreign intervention at play





Those who win if the Khamenei dictatorship survives:

Russia (relies on Iran for military hardware)
China - cheap oil from Iran
N Korea - as above
Hamas / Hezbollah / Houthis - keep their main sponsor

Those who lose if Iran reform, agrees peace with West

• People of Iran
• Saudi Arabia (increase on world oil supply drives prices down)

-

Add Benjamin Netanyahu as a winner. He needs enemies to continue his regime. Iran is the gift that keeps on giving as far as he is concerned. If peace broke out in the middle east he would be gone.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Foreign intervention at play

So naive.




Israel supplying weapons to Iranians and telling them to shoot police and security forces. And if they can't, just shoot other Iranians instead.

 

[Zidane98]

So naive.

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Israel supplying weapons to Iranians and telling them to shoot police and security forces. And if they can't, just shoot other Iranians instead.

Lol, stunningly solid evidence as always from you.

You're defending the Khamenei regime for mass murder torture here with your Israel justifications.

These are the people you support:

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Lol, stunningly solid evidence as always from you.

You're defending the Khamenei regime for mass murder torture here with your Israel justifications.

I've not defended or supported anyone. You can't help yourself - you can only respond in strawman nonsense.

 

[steve strange]

Foreign intervention at play





Those who win if the Khamenei dictatorship survives:

Russia (relies on Iran for military hardware)
China - cheap oil from Iran
N Korea - as above
Hamas / Hezbollah / Houthis - keep their main sponsor

Those who lose if Iran reform, agrees peace with West

• People of Iran
• Saudi Arabia (increase on world oil supply drives prices down)

-

Trump pulled back after iran told him israel and US bases will be hit hard

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Trump pulled back after iran told him israel and US bases will be hit hard

They don’t have their Carrier strike groups in place.
Give it a week for them to get organised.
When the time comes they’ll obliterate the IRG if they choose to.

 

[steve strange]

They don’t have their Carrier strike groups in place.
Give it a week for them to get organised.
When the time comes they’ll obliterate the IRG if they choose to.

Dont think so. Whats the point of having bases if they are evauated

 

[steve strange]

If you can get over the amount of times Sina Toossi says "y'know" this is an informative discussion on Iran and the where the support is for the protest movement inside Iranian society and its history, the influences from outside countries, the effects of sanctions etc.

Good questions with long answers more so than the bunch of random wishcasting social media posts here. Something other than America and Israel is going to come in and help fix Iran so that the women there don't have to hide their hair anymore.

This genius has reduced it down to women not hiding their hair.

 

[nut]

Mossad spurs Iran Protests.

Is this source ok?

Mossad urges Iran protests, says agents present | The Jerusalem Post

As protests grow across Iran, the Mossad posted an unusual Farsi message urging demonstrators to act, saying it is with them in the streets, amid rising economic pressure and public unrest.

www.jpost.com

 

[Zidane98]

Khamenei dictatorship being deposed would be a huge win for peace in the ME. Every conflict in the region is driven by Iran.

A huge loss for Russia & China - and here lies the problem.

 

[Baldur]

Mossad spurs Iran Protests.

Is this source ok?

Mossad urges Iran protests, says agents present | The Jerusalem Post

As protests grow across Iran, the Mossad posted an unusual Farsi message urging demonstrators to act, saying it is with them in the streets, amid rising economic pressure and public unrest.

www.jpost.com

Good way to discredit the protestors in the eyes of Iranians and indeed many in the world, including I suspect you. All these people who are generally anti US and anti Israel, willing to accept oblivious Mossad agitprop as truth because it backs up their beliefs this time.

Netanyahu and Trump's interests are not aligned, Trump may think they are because he is dumb, Netanyahu is a POS but is not dumb. Continuing conflict is in Netanyahu's interest, Trump would prefer a peace that enables his corrupt looting.