Is It As Bad As It Seems?

[CoggaRules]

You aren't serious are you? Dude? Apart from a handful of cameo's, that some of our youngsters have easily matched (Foley on the weekend for example), he has far from been a superstar matchwinner. Ridiculous statement.

you have it your way dude. For me he is vital to mickeys plans. i.e. He has stepped up to the plate that Bucks has vacated, hence they are where they are on the ladder, without Bucks there.

 

[CoggaRules]

That may be the worst post I've ever read on this forum. If you actually tried to structure your posts properly, use correct English, not abuse people, not think you know more than everyone, not fill it full of useless smilies, people might actually have the slightest bit of respect on here for you. Regardless of all that, your argument is as weak as an Aaron Fiora tackle. Because Dale Thomas can be played the same places on the ground as James Hird means the FACTS and FIGURES he posted are invalid? Ridiculous.

LMAO....respect? Who gives a flying ****...i spill it and if you want to disregarded it. FFS, get real dude. Like wtf? if i actually tried to structure my posts? are you serious? So you sit there and think, now i have to put this there and that here, naa, it doesnt look good, change that, put that there...LMAO....sheesh dude, you mustnt have a life huh?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

the debate was as you suggested the Hodge was closing the gap on Judd.
The so wills you also suggest are pure speculation on your part.
The fact is that the Eagles wanted the best out of Judd and he delivered it in spades. Until it happens with hodge and Lids, you are clutching at straws. get the picture?

The debate was in regards to playing Lids off HB.In other words why play Lids in the middle when we are not ready for a tilt at the flag.Get the picture now?

 

[1980]

Have a look at Luke Ball and to a lesser extent Judd.Playing hurt because they were in the middle from the start.
All of a sudden the gap between Hodge and Judd is closing.
Get the picture

Maybe I'm more mellow post Frawley coaching days, or maybe you've become more sensible.

Because that is a pretty clever post

And I used to hate you, but now I think you're worth reading.

 

[1980]

you have it your way dude. For me he is vital to mickeys plans. i.e. He has stepped up to the plate that Bucks has vacated, hence they are where they are on the ladder, without Bucks there.

Anyone on this board, or anyone that follows this league for that matter, would take Nathan Foley over an overrated schmuck like Thomas any day of the week.

Foley is the form player in the AFL, and you give your vote to Thomas?

Is your obsession that everything is wrong about the RFC just because we didnt draft Fevola so blinding that you cant see a positive such as Foley.

What do you reckon Malthouse would do if Bucks is available for selection?

You have not an ounce of credibity left.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Maybe I'm more mellow post Frawley coaching days, or maybe you've become more sensible.

Because that is a pretty clever post

And I used to hate you, but now I think you're worth reading.

Prefers if you keep hating me for any reason

 

[CoggaRules]

The debate was in regards to playing Lids off HB.In other words why play Lids in the middle when we are not ready for a tilt at the flag.Get the picture now?

naaa dude... hodge is closing the gap on Judd, dont forget. get the picture?

 

[_RT_]

man, you keep on with the stats dont you? do you factor in the other stats?
Do you know what they are? The ones that the HFs dont get because of those rebounding HBs.
And again you keep on the ridiculous black and white type of assesment on a players impact, purely on stats.
Dale Thomas is to Micky what James hird is to sheedy...put him anywhere that he needs things to happen. And that in his what year? he can take a mark, take a hit, read the play, kick it to the right place, he does it all...if you cant see that..then with all due respect you have NFI.
Do you watch the game dude? Or do you watch and not see, then pick up the paper and assess purely on the numbers that are printed?

Dude are you watching the games as well. Tell me where does Thomas play most of the time? Wouldn't be as a HFF would it? He is free to create options, he does not have the pressure of minding a man so to speak, so he gets to go about his footy doing as he wants.

Lids is playing mainly as a HBF, first and foremost responsible for beating an opponent, then trying to also get himself into position to be the final link in our movements forward. Add to that he is also getting tagged on a weekly basis because of the oppositions fear of him tearing them apart and yet he has still managed to increase his averages this year, is sitting second in the AFL for running bounces behind Foley, and yet you think he does not have an impact on games. Why is that because he does not line up in the middle like Judd?

 

[krustyman]

tigers are far off collingwood. they got heaps of young players like cloke, pedlburry, thomas, obrien and now clarke

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

naaa dude... hodge is closing the gap on Judd, dont forget. get the picture?

I can see how ego deflating it would be for you to admit who,s right and who,s wrong on this debate

 

[CoggaRules]

Anyone on this board, or anyone that follows this league for that matter, would take Nathan Foley over an overrated schmuck like Thomas any day of the week.

Foley is the form player in the AFL, and you give your vote to Thomas?

Is your obsession that everything is wrong about the RFC just because we didnt draft Fevola so blinding that you cant see a positive such as Foley.

What do you reckon Malthouse would do if Bucks is available for selection?

You have not an ounce of credibity left.

LMAO...so lets have it again? anyone on this board, and anyone who follows this league would take Foley over, and I quote you, "an overrated schmuck like Thomas any day of the week". Correct?
I will leave that up to those who "you" suggest see it "your" way. Which by your reckoning is "anyone".
BTW, when did I suggest anything about Foley dude? Are you hearing voices again 1980?

 

[_RT_]

LMAO...so lets have it again? anyone on this board, and anyone who follows this league would take Foley over, and I quote you, "an overrated schmuck like Thomas any day of the week". Correct?
BTW, when did I suggest anything about Foley dude? Are you hearing voices again 1980?

Who would you take then if you had a choice, Deledio or Thomas? Seeing as those are the 2 you comapred.

 

[CoggaRules]

I can see how ego deflating it would be for you to admit who,s right and who,s wrong on this debate

deflating ego? naa dude, you are dealing with hopes and dreams, to back up your stuff, kind of doesnt stack up against the real stuff that "has" happened and is in the record books, as well as inscribed on a thing called a premiership cup. So you can understand its impossible for you to be right, until you are.

 

[CoggaRules]

Who would you take then if you had a choice, Deledio or Thomas? Seeing as those are the 2 you comapred.

I'll stick to lids..thanks...he has a better hair style....but for real? I rate Thomas big time, he does it all and is hard at it, like no fringe only for him, and has the gift of anticipation, can take a speccy, not to mention that he goes about his business like a commando, leaves nothing in the tank in the end. He will win a brownlow in the not too distant future.

 

[1980]

defalting ego? naa dude, you are dealing with hopes and dreams, to back up your stuff, kind of doesnt stack up against the real stuff that "has" happened and is in the record books, as well as inscribed on a thing called a premiership cup. So you can understand its impossible for you to be right, until you are.

He is right and as is the case 99% of the time, you are wrong.

 

[CoggaRules]

He is right and as is the case 99% of the time, you are wrong.

yeah he is right dude..see?? lol...now you can rest easy.
Maybe we can wait for the poster, who you are suggesting things for, to say what you want to say for him

 

[1980]

LMAO...so lets have it again? anyone on this board, and anyone who follows this league would take Foley over, and I quote you, "an overrated schmuck like Thomas any day of the week". Correct?
I will leave that up to those who "you" suggest see it "your" way. Which by your reckoning is "anyone".
BTW, when did I suggest anything about Foley dude? Are you hearing voices again 1980?

You're reflecting on a positive about another club, namely, the one we hate the most, and overlooking the biggest positive about our own club, which you supposedly support.

How you can get a hardon about Thomas is beyond me.

We've had plenty of first year players step up this year. Jake King for one. Even the kid Edwards is showing the confidence of a player with more years under his belt.

We have a longer term plan than Collingwood, so we can afford to ease the players in so they give us longer and better service.

Thats called player management you imbecile. Something our club has done very poorly to date.

Do you think for one minute we didnt ruin Cogs career? Frawley was playing him with friggn OP. Or Merenda before that. Every good young player we have breaking through we stuff up because we dont have a clue how to develop them properly

You can get all hard over Thomas, but lets see where he is at and where Lids or Foley are at in 5 years.

 

[CoggaRules]

You're reflecting on a positive about another club, namely, the one we hate the most, and overlooking the biggest positive about our own club, which you supposedly support.

How you can get a hardon about Thomas is beyond me.

We've had plenty of first year players step up this year. Jake King for one. Even the kid Edwards is showing the confidence of a player with more years under his belt.

We have a longer term plan than Collingwood, so we can afford to ease the players in so they give us longer and better service.

Thats called player management you imbecile. Something our club has done very poorly to date.

Do you think for one minute we didnt ruin Cogs career? Frawley was playing him with friggn OP. Or Merenda before that. Every good young player we have breaking through we stuff up because we dont have a clue how to develop them properly

You can get all hard over Thomas, but lets see where he is at and where Lids or Foley are at in 5 years.

what are you on about dude? Who is bagging our players FFS?
Then you go into this stupidity about frawley? LMAO....so we have had "plenty" of players step up, jake king for "1" and the edwards kid makes "2". I see you have a real good understanding of the word "plenty" dont you? From where i sit, 2 means 1 more than 1.

 

[1980]

what are you on about dude? Who is bagging our players FFS?
Then you go into this stupidity about frawley? LMAO....so we have had "plenty" of players step up, jake king for "1" and the edwards kid makes "2". I see you have a real good understanding of the word "plenty" dont you? From where i sit, 2 means 1 more than 1.

2 means we have 2 first year players that show something which is better than paul Hudson, Tim Fleming and fkin Craig Biddescome on our list.

Be happy about something

 

[1980]

Prefers if you keep hating me for any reason

Nothing should get in the way of a good old fashioned scrap.

They banned shirtfronts, but not on RealFooty

 

[_RT_]

what are you on about dude? Who is bagging our players FFS?
Then you go into this stupidity about frawley? LMAO....so we have had "plenty" of players step up, jake king for "1" and the edwards kid makes "2". I see you have a real good understanding of the word "plenty" dont you? From where i sit, 2 means 1 more than 1.

Well lets add to the list of those that have stepped up.

Pattison has carried the ruck for the best part of the whole season, fair enough he gets beaten in most games in terms of hitouts but he leaves nothing out there gives it everything for 100% of the time.

Thursfield has comeback from a knee reco to show some very good signs at FB. Held Lloyd reasonably quiet. Beat Robertson in the Dees game and although has struggled in a couple of other games can be excused due to the fact most players do when coming back from long term injuries.

Jackson has stepped up to become an effective tagger, needs to continue to be seen as a consistent performer but has steppe up none the less.

Tambling has stepped up and started to show his true potential, given the right fitness base to be able to play in the midfield for longer will no doubt be a star.

Lids himself has stepped up his impact on games as we have already discussed.

That by my count makes it 7 just off the top of my head, could find a couple of others if I really wanted to put up an arguement for them.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

deflating ego? naa dude, you are dealing with hopes and dreams, to back up your stuff, kind of doesnt stack up against the real stuff that "has" happened and is in the record books, as well as inscribed on a thing called a premiership cup. So you can understand its impossible for you to be right, until you are.

Lmao at your sole reasoning is Judd has the upper hand over the likes of Hodge and Lids thus far is because of a premiership cup.Geez players like Gary Ablett and Tony Lockett must be duds lol.
But lets not get off track here.
Like i said Hodge and Deledio will be used when that window of oppotunity is open for a flag.
Why run Lids into the ground when he,s surrounded by turkeys!

 

[CoggaRules]

Lmao at your sole reasoning is Judd has the upper hand over the likes of Hodge and Lids thus far is because of a premiership cup.Geez players like Gary Ablett and Tony Lockett must be duds lol.
But lets not get off track here.
Like i said Hodge and Deledio will be used when that window of oppotunity is open for a flag.
Why run Lids into the ground when he,s surrounded by turkeys!

now we are on the same page dude.
And what is your reasoning as to why Judd hasnt got the upper hand on the likes of Hodge and Lids dude? We werent talking about the abletts and locketts. i would suggest that if Judd remains healthy, we are all priviledged to be witnessing the career of a legend of mega proportions. Like stuff that has statues built outside the G. Thats where this guy is headed for if he reamins healthy. Now if you think Hodge and Lids can attain that level, then good for you.
You kind of add out of left field stuff in your lame attempt to hide your inept argument, dont you?

 

[CoggaRules]

Well lets add to the list of those that have stepped up.

Pattison has carried the ruck for the best part of the whole season, fair enough he gets beaten in most games in terms of hitouts but he leaves nothing out there gives it everything for 100% of the time.

Thursfield has comeback from a knee reco to show some very good signs at FB. Held Lloyd reasonably quiet. Beat Robertson in the Dees game and although has struggled in a couple of other games can be excused due to the fact most players do when coming back from long term injuries.

Jackson has stepped up to become an effective tagger, needs to continue to be seen as a consistent performer but has steppe up none the less.

Tambling has stepped up and started to show his true potential, given the right fitness base to be able to play in the midfield for longer will no doubt be a star.

Lids himself has stepped up his impact on games as we have already discussed.

That by my count makes it 7 just off the top of my head, could find a couple of others if I really wanted to put up an arguement for them.

exhibit As of a one-eyed tigerhead, who cant see through the fog.
I see you know the difference between stepping up and steppind up and making a difference dont you? Ever heard of reality? it tends to be different to hopes and dreams dude.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

now we are on the same page dude.
And what is your reasoning as to why Judd hasnt got the upper hand on the likes of Hodge and Lids dude? We werent talking about the abletts and locketts. i would suggest that if Judd remains healthy, we are all priviledged to be witnessing the career of a legend of mega proportions. Like stuff that has statues built outside the G. Thats where this guy is headed for if he reamins healthy. Now if you think Hodge and Lids can attain that level, then good for you.
You kind of add out of left field stuff in your lame attempt to hide your inept argument, dont you?

So you agree with me about this whole point of the argument that we shouldnt play Lids in the Midfeild until the time is right?