Play Nice Is it racist?

[El Dubya]

Branching out from the political hotbed of the song contest, comes this thread, which seeks to determine whether certain comments are racist or not.

For instance, if I were to say, "All African people are corrupt" it would be rightly considered racist. I've made a sweeping generalisation about an entire continent of people, ignoring a myriad of different nations and cultures. I've also made a value judgment on millions of people, calling into question their character.

Making a comment like that, in my opinion is decidedly racist, and I would never say such a thing. Feel free to call out other instances of racism here.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

All gypsies are thieves.

 

[Cruyff14]

What about Asians are poor drivers?

 

[El Dubya]

All gypsies are thieves.

I think that is probably racist. NaturalDisaster what do you think?

 

[El Dubya]

What about Asians are poor drivers?

Generalising an entire continent, decidedly racist. NaturalDisaster , thoughts?

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Generalising an entire continent, decidedly racist. NaturalDisaster , thoughts?

Both racist.

 

[El Dubya]

Both racist.

So I assume there's a public apology incoming?

 

[Plugger35]

All Geelong supporters are hillbillies.

 

[Gralin]

I'm only going to say this once.
If this thread turns into an excuse to to be racist or turns into a massive shit fight it will be getting closed.
The thread doesn't give you immunity to post whatever you want, so think before you post please.

 

[Cruyff14]

In relation to my post, it was a genuinely curious question. It's one that is rolled out often, and one that seems to ring true more often than not. Sorry if it was deemed offensive.

 

[Kurve]

What about Asians are poor drivers?

Forgivably racist, probably lazy language more than anything. We've all been guilty of that.

 

[El Dubya]

In relation to my post, it was a genuinely curious question. It's one that is rolled out often, and one that seems to ring true more often than not. Sorry if it was deemed offensive.

You see how I couched my racist comment with discussion around why it was racist, that would probably help.

 

[Morganashlee]

All Geelong supporters are hillbillies.

Fact.

 

[Kurve]

"Old white man" rhetoric

 

[El Dubya]

If somebody said "Asian people are rude because they prize education above manners" that would be racist.

The person who said that would be stereotyping billions of people from dozens of countries and thousands of different ethnic/cultural groupings. They would also be imposing their own Euro centric interpretation of manners and politeness on another culture. A comment like that would be both racist and ill informed.

 

[El Dubya]

I'm only going to say this once.
If this thread turns into an excuse to to be racist or turns into a massive shit fight it will be getting closed.
The thread doesn't give you immunity to post whatever you want, so think before you post please.

My point was to call out racist comments.

 

[Demosthenes]

whether certain comments are racist or not

Comments are not racist. Beliefs are racist.

When someone expresses "X = Y", it is easy to assume that the underlying belief is "X therefore Y". Sometimes this is true, but not always.

It's more useful to unpack the reasoning behind the first statement and discuss, than assume the second and condemn the person accordingly.

 

[El Dubya]

Comments are not racist. Beliefs are racist.

When someone expresses "X = Y", it is easy to assume that the underlying belief is "X therefore Y". Sometimes this is true, but not always.

It's more useful to unpack the reasoning behind the first statement and discuss, than assume the second and condemn the person accordingly.

On that note, NaturalDisaster and Chappyuk do you wish to comment?

 

[ChappyUK]

On that note, NaturalDisaster and Chappyuk do you wish to comment?

No.

 

[El Dubya]

No.

Not surprised.

 

[Kurve]

My point was to call out racist comments.

If this is a call to copy and paste racist comments from all over bigfooty somewhat like Clementine Ford's sexist, dick, mentally impaired men on trams shaming, I'm off.

 

[ChappyUK]

Not surprised.

 

[raskolnikov]

All Geelong supporters are hillbillies.

Is it considered racist if it's true?

 

[El Dubya]

If this is a call to copy and paste racist comments from all over bigfooty somewhat like Clementine Ford's sexist, dick, mentally impaired men on trams shaming, I'm off.

No, it's about educating people like NaturalDisaster and Geelong them grow and change.

 

[Gough]

This doesn't need to go any further.