Jacinta Allan - Leading a zombie government

[MC Extra Dollop]

To offer a slightly different perspective, sometimes calls from west of Ballarat are responded to by police from Bacchus Marsh.

In the inner city, your point holds true. Not so much in some other places.

It's the Chief Commissioner's recommendation. With the facts and quotes below from a couple of months ago, it's a bit bemusing that there's such violent opposition to it.

Victoria Police to slim down executive, divert more officers to front line

Victoria Police will slim down its executive team and divert more officers to the front line under reforms aimed at reducing crime in the state.

www.abc.net.au

"We have a crime problem here in Victoria," he said.

"The levels of offending we are seeing in our community are entirely unacceptable."

Under the restructure, Victoria Police's executive team would be slimmed down to enable a reinvestment in the front line, Chief Commissioner Bush said.

This would include a reduction in the number of centralised commands and departments.

"I was quite surprised to see at every station, for every shift, we use uniform police officers to man our public counters and take calls for service," Chief Commissioner Bush said after three months in the job.

"Those things are really important but they don't need to be done by highly trained frontline police officers."

He reassured the community the service would not be stopped, and said the organisation would explore a number of options such as public servants or police custody officers carrying out the work instead.

Chief Commissioner Bush said it would free up 1.4 million personnel hours in one year.

Cut the number of senior executives working for Vic Police, reduce the number of sworn officers doing filing and answering phones at stations, ramp up the number of officers on the beat. I would have guessed that such changes would be precisely what the Opposition would suggest, if they were asked to give their opinion on what should change to reduce crime in the state.

Something that I try to consider in my professional life when someone makes a decision that I disagree with is - 'assuming they're not a complete f-wit, why would they make that decision?'. Because most people aren't complete f-wits. And to gut the Victorian Police (rather than restructuring) after the headlines we've had over the past 6-12 months would be a complete f-wit move, politically.

 

[The Punter]

It's the Chief Commissioner's recommendation. With the facts and quotes below from a couple of months ago, it's a bit bemusing that there's such violent opposition to it.

Victoria Police to slim down executive, divert more officers to front line

Victoria Police will slim down its executive team and divert more officers to the front line under reforms aimed at reducing crime in the state.

www.abc.net.au

Cut the number of senior executives working for Vic Police, reduce the number of sworn officers doing filing and answering phones at stations, ramp up the number of officers on the beat. I would have guessed that such changes would be precisely what the Opposition would suggest, if they were asked to give their opinion on what should change to reduce crime in the state.

Something that I try to consider in my professional life when someone makes a decision that I disagree with is - 'assuming they're not a complete f-wit, why would they make that decision?'. Because most people aren't complete f-wits. And to gut the Victorian Police (rather than restructuring) after the headlines we've had over the past 6-12 months would be a complete f-wit move, politically.

I don't have an issue with anything you have said, but the result of those changes should be more police available for public contact, which (I think) most people would assume includes more sworn police officers available from stations for callouts with shorter response times.

 

[10571z]

It's the Chief Commissioner's recommendation. With the facts and quotes below from a couple of months ago, it's a bit bemusing that there's such violent opposition to it.

Victoria Police to slim down executive, divert more officers to front line

Victoria Police will slim down its executive team and divert more officers to the front line under reforms aimed at reducing crime in the state.

www.abc.net.au

Cut the number of senior executives working for Vic Police, reduce the number of sworn officers doing filing and answering phones at stations, ramp up the number of officers on the beat. I would have guessed that such changes would be precisely what the Opposition would suggest, if they were asked to give their opinion on what should change to reduce crime in the state.

Something that I try to consider in my professional life when someone makes a decision that I disagree with is - 'assuming they're not a complete f-wit, why would they make that decision?'. Because most people aren't complete f-wits. And to gut the Victorian Police (rather than restructuring) after the headlines we've had over the past 6-12 months would be a complete f-wit move, politically.

Restructuring? Just spin talk.


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Secretary Wayne Gatt said most stations were already breaching the minimum staffing rules, with compliance “virtually non-existent.”

“Victoria Police’s decision to suspend its minimum service numbers is a symptom of the extreme number of vacancies across the force,” Gatt said. “We’re 2000 members short on the frontline. The only fix is to recruit more police than are leaving.”

They don’t have enough police. Stations shouldn’t be left empty. All spin for a failing government.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Restructuring? Just spin talk.


“
Secretary Wayne Gatt said most stations were already breaching the minimum staffing rules, with compliance “virtually non-existent.”

“Victoria Police’s decision to suspend its minimum service numbers is a symptom of the extreme number of vacancies across the force,” Gatt said. “We’re 2000 members short on the frontline. The only fix is to recruit more police than are leaving.”

They don’t have enough police. Stations shouldn’t be left empty. All spin for a failing government.

Do you take the statements from all union bosses as gospel, or just the ones that suit you?

 

[Satan]

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[Satan]

The Big Build?

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

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Would be unlikely. Be more likely to do with the river next to it. The TBMs nearby are easy 20-50m below at that point.

They'll still stop digging the tunnel for a bit as a matter of due course though.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Would be unlikely. Be more likely to do with the river next to it. The TBMs nearby are easy 20-50m below at that point.

They'll still stop digging the tunnel for a bit as a matter of due course though.

The tunnelling is right underneath the sinkhole. There is nothing surer that the tunnelling is the cause of the collapse.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

The tunnelling is right underneath the sinkhole. There is nothing surer that the tunnelling is the cause of the cocollapse.

The likelihood is the watering and poor drainage of the oval has started it. Could have been there for ages.

The TBM causing small ground vibration sets it off

 

[eddiesmith]

The tunnelling is right underneath the sinkhole. There is nothing surer that the tunnelling is the cause of the collapse.

Amazing, the government actually admitted the NEL was the cause!!!

Although completely unrelated to the other sinkhole caused by the project…

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Complaining about sinkholes from a TBM is like complaining about noise from a freeway. Shouldn't have bought a house there if you're not prepared to deal with the surroundings

 

[leon123]

Amazing, the government actually admitted the NEL was the cause!!!

Although completely unrelated to the other sinkhole caused by the project…

why is it sooo amazing. Large civil works cause land disturbance and is expected, are you suggesting the current government is to blame for basic physics?

 

[leon123]

The tunnelling is right underneath the sinkhole. There is nothing surer that the tunnelling is the cause of the collapse.

So?

 

[The Punter]

Complaining about sinkholes from a TBM is like complaining about noise from a freeway. Shouldn't have bought a house there if you're not prepared to deal with the surroundings

Pretty sure most would have purchased their houses before the NEL was commenced.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Amazing, the government actually admitted the NEL was the cause!!!

Although completely unrelated to the other sinkhole caused by the project…

They've actually said that the TBMs have contributed to it, but they're still investigating the cause.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

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It's not the tunnel collapsing.

There was likely pre-existing conditions for a sinkhole due to irrigation for the oval and a nearby water source.

Ironically what can happen is if they improve underground drainage nearby due to rain and tunneling works, likewise vibration from machinery that sinkhole may collapse. Happens fairly often.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Another own-goal by governments privatising public services.

https://archive.is/UCmzd

Yay neo-liberalism

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Another own-goal by governments privatising public services.

https://archive.is/UCmzd

Yay neo-liberalism

It's hilarious because 9 Fairfax pushed this barrow and they'd be the first to cry foul at any signs of key assets being re-nationalised.

 

[eddiesmith]

Good to see the Premier is on leave whilst fires are burning across the state and we’re facing the worst conditions since Black Saturday.

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Good to see the Premier is on leave whilst fires are burning across the state and we’re facing the worst conditions since Black Saturday.

I firmly condemn Allan's lack of crystal ball.

 

[MarcMaverick]

I firmly condemn Allan's lack of crystal ball.

Happy to stick the boots in to Scomo, though, for the same.

 

[GrayRanga]

Happy to stick the boots in to Scomo, though, for the same.

The fires were already alight, starting from Queensland and working their way down the country.

He went O/S knowing that Australia was running a risk of more major fires

Running your own narrative by manufacturing your own news?

 

[eddiesmith]

The fires were already alight, starting from Queensland and working their way down the country.

He went O/S knowing that Australia was running a risk of more major fires

Running your own narrative by manufacturing your own news?

He’d also already visited the fires multiple times over the previous 3 months they’d been burning…

 

[eddiesmith]

I firmly condemn Allan's lack of crystal ball.

Well you don’t need a crystal ball to have seen the dire warnings for this week, especially tomorrow.

Plus given the catastrophic outlook and fires already burning, surely she could cut her holiday short to do her job? Or does that only apply to PMs who have zero accountability over fire services or the response to them.

 

[leon123]

Well you don’t need a crystal ball to have seen the dire warnings for this week, especially tomorrow.

Plus given the catastrophic outlook and fires already burning, surely she could cut her holiday short to do her job? Or does that only apply to PMs who have zero accountability over fire services or the response to them.

Who cares, its not her job, neither was it ScoMos, - no need for either to be at their job.

A fair argument if fires are catastrophic and extensive.

Current fires in Vic are relatively minor in the big scheme of things (not that minor though if you are a local)