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Did the club have a good crack at Gunston, or did we neglect him because he wasn't a mid?
If he chose the Hawks because they're in their window, then fair enough - but if we didn't have a crack at someone we should have had a good chance to sign, it's a huge balls-up.
 
Na, not sold on him yet. Any key forward could be in his shoes when the delivery and pressure from the mids is at Hawthorns level.
 
I rate Gunston but seriously we can't go after every decent player that comes on the market. Tall forwards are any area of strength for us with Hurley/Crameri/Gumbleton and Joe D to come as well as Ryder. I'm not sure that Gunston would be better than ANY of those guys and even if he is better, trades are expensive both in terms of salary cap as well draft picks/players, so you need to prioritise your needs. A good strong bodied mid would be a lot more useful to us than Gunston.
 
WTF do we need Jack Gunston for?

Believe it or not most clubs have talented key position players. We do not need them all and there is nothing to suggest we needn't have faith in the players we have.
 

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Yes that's exactly what we need, should have traded our first pick for another tall forward when our midfield and small defenders are putrid.
 
Pretty sure Gunston was desperate to get to the Hawks. They got him pretty cheap in the end.
 
So we didn't have a proper go at him?

We need mids, but when class players are available - even if it's a position of strength - it's a no-brainier to go after them. Besides, our tall forward stocks aren't as deep as many believe.
 
No it's not.

This is not a draft. We are taking about bringing in a guy who will cost at the trade table and also in (to a limited extent) the salary cap.

It seems that there is absolutely no need to unbalance the list for a guy who we would not have considered as a best 22 player at the time. As it turns out I still don't think he would be getting a game.
 
cash said:
Should have traded monfries for him.
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Gee, you're right.

Why didn't we trade a player in a position Adelaide are well stocked for to get a player in a position we don't need and who wants to go elsewhere? Adelaide are sure to take a player they don't need over a first rounder and a bunch of pick upgrades.

Poor form EFC. Sack Dudoro.
 
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Gee, you're right.

Why didn't we trade a player in a position Adelaide are well stocked for to get a player in a position we don't need and who wants to go elsewhere? Adelaide are sure to take a player they don't need over a first rounder and a bunch of pick upgrades.

Poor form EFC. Sack Dudoro.
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Is Angus your boyfriend? You get way to emotional about peoples opinions.
Who said anything about Dudoro you tool.

From what I have seen of Gunston he seems to have far more upside than Monfries and plays a similar position.
Seems far more dangerous in the forward line.12 games for 24 goals. Monfries 14 from 14.
 
Gunston nominated Hawthorn and didn't want to go anywhere else.

Besides, he's hardly the sort of player we need more of. We need midfielders. Gunston looks alright, but it's waaaaayyy too early to be saying we made some sort of blunder in not going for him- he hasn't proven himself fully yet.
 

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cash said:
Is Angus your boyfriend? You get way to emotional about peoples opinions.
Who said anything about Dudoro you tool.

From what I have seen of Gunston he seems to have far more upside than Monfries and plays a similar position.
Seems far more dangerous in the forward line.12 games for 24 goals. Monfries 14 from 14.
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That's an excellent point champ.

So why on earth would Adelaide swap Gunston for Monfries?
 
cash said:
Is Angus your boyfriend? You get way to emotional about peoples opinions.
Who said anything about Dudoro you tool.

From what I have seen of Gunston he seems to have far more upside than Monfries and plays a similar position.
Seems far more dangerous in the forward line.12 games for 24 goals. Monfries 14 from 14.
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His post has nothing to do with Monfries abilities as a player...
 

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Don't need him, not one bit. I fail to be impressed by him yet, talk about getting handed/gifted the perfect role to play. Plus, would you trade Kavanagh for him? Hawthorn gave up pick 22 + some later picks like 40 etc.. from memory. We only had pick 19, we would've had to of done that. Then you miss out on Caddy and say "Why did we bother with Gunston?" You take chances, this wasn't even one, this was bloody obvious.

Not overly vital I guess but the guy is.. well...not what you would call a good guy, either.
 
how the hell would Gunston of been any use to us right now?
And also Gunston luvers how do you propose we would have traded for him?
 
Looking at this in a vacuum, Gunston is likely better than any of the players available at pick 19, which is what we would have had to give up for him.

If we gave that pick then we would not have Kavanagh who appears a good midfield prospect. Maybe not as good as Gunston will be as a 3rd / 2nd forward, but who knows at this stage.

What we do know is that at the time Crameri had come through as a 3rd / 2nd forward and my biased opinion is that he will be better than Gunston. Couple the Crameri argument with the club having drafted Steinberg for a similar role the previous draft. There appeared to be a surplus of that role.

In the short term, we seem to have made a choice based on need, instead of best available which can be dangerous. In saying that, Kav looks good and I am happy to see how things pan out with him before I decide whether the clubs decision was correct. Currently I am leaning towards the club making the correct decision in picking the mid.
 
ZaharakisFTW said:
how the hell would Gunston of been any use to us right now?
And also Gunston luvers how do you propose we would have traded for him?
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Dyson and a 3rd rounder of course. ;)
 

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