Hope you dont mind a tiger dropping in. Am a fmily friend of the Edwards and very pleased for Jakey as is he to be a blue. Old Butch was a ripper player as you say and actually did both knees in the one incident at Collingwood, and another when slipping on the centre wicket training at Richmond when 19.Jakes older brother Duane has done one so fingers crossed it doesnt happen to Jake.Can tell you that as far as hunger,commitment and attitude goes Dennis is going to fall in love with him. He is a genuinelt tough kid with some mongrel and will step up quickly I believe.Very very fast and having watched a bit of him about the best contested mark in TAC even at 17.Captained Jets for half the year,and I firmly believe he was top10-20 next year.Murphy will obviously be a player,but I would put my house on Jakey being top value and a real favourite for Blues fans some day.Great kid,good luck Jake and Carlton.