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FromOldFitzroy said:
Vance is a nasty piece of work.
Even the odious Farage had a shot back at him.
Useful to Trump, I guess.
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Useful to the Silicon Valley dudes who want to reshape society, you mean.

He’s useful to Trump in the sense he has to have someone in the VP role. I’m not convinced he did a lot to help spread the Trump message during the election, but I might be wrong. I don’t hang around in the right dark corners of social media to know how the true MAGAs respond to him.
 
liz said:
Useful to the Silicon Valley dudes who want to reshape society, you mean.

He’s useful to Trump in the sense he has to have someone in the VP role. I’m not convinced he did a lot to help spread the Trump message during the election, but I might be wrong. I don’t hang around in the right dark corners of social media to know how the true MAGAs respond to him.
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He's Peter Thiel's little plaything, there's a Regurgitator song that explains his career.
 

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...is a POS. Nothing more.

Laughed at Zelenskyy' reaction to his moronic interjection. Well, more moronic than what Drumpf was serving up. A short-term useful idiot for the idiotic co-presidents.

What a time to be alive... 🤪
 
Hey people you all invited to participate in the JD Vance workout challenge.

During the Orange Turnip's speech he stood up to clap an impressive 327 times

so the challenge is ......

327 consecutive squats (from seated position for time … can use a chair, box, bench, etc). Fastest to complete 327 rips wins.

Bonus points if you clap like a lapdog between every rep

Post your times here .... and good luck!!
 
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Tadpole said:
Never apologise for telling the truth - maybe apologise for how the message was delivered, but the truth remains.
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Look I'll be voting for him tomorrow but should have held his tongue

I hate that this was brought up in international media, just keep quiet thanks
 

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barreness said:
Look I'll be voting for him tomorrow but should have held his tongue

I hate that this was brought up in international media, just keep quiet thanks
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Very hard to do for "progressives" who have drunk the kool aid and are filled with self-righteousness.

An example and yy lived experience too, hence I copy left tactics nowadays & just throw labels around.



PS : Vance is Gold and will be President. Will that be 2028 or after Vivek in 2036 is the question. 2028 seems to be odds on favourite for now.
 
hawkinoz said:
Very hard to do for "progressives" who have drunk the kool aid and are filled with self-righteousness.

An example and yy lived experience too, hence I copy left tactics nowadays & just throw labels around.



PS : Vance is Gold and will be President. Will that be 2028 or after Vivek in 2036 is the question. 2028 seems to be odds on favourite for now.
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It’s interesting that you say your ‘hard-left’ friends are difficult to talk to because they use a series of talking points. Have you considered that maybe they’re just citing facts that challenge your worldview? You say you’re for debate, but are you engaging with the substance of what they’re saying, or just dismissing them as unreasonable?

As for Vance being ‘gold,’ do you think his full 180-degree pivot from being anti-Trump to being a MAGA loyalist was genuine, or do you think he saw where the political winds were blowing and adapted accordingly? And if you believe he’s authentic, what policies does he stand for that differentiate him from the standard GOP establishment?

And on Vivek—he’s great at marketing himself, but his entire campaign in 2024 was based on soundbites that didn’t translate into real voter support. Given that he never held political office and lost badly in the primaries, what makes you think he’s the future of the party rather than just another tech-bro grifter who got his 15 minutes of fame?

Also, you mentioned shifting tactics by copying ‘leftist labeling.’ Would you say that’s an effective way to persuade people, or does it just reinforce the idea that politics is about tribal loyalty rather than policy?
 
peetoo said:
This dude is triggering even RWNJ back to the centre


apple.news

Jeremy Clarkson: Who’ll take on JD Vance? Guess it has to be me — The Times and The Sunday Times

Shortly after Donald Trump flobbered into the White House for a second time, fizzing and glowing like he’d been freshly Tangoed, a number of famous American actors announced that they’d like to leave the country as soon as possible. After Robert De Niro joined in the chorus, voicing his concerns...
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www.express.co.uk

Jeremy Clarkson calls for Nigel Farage to rule country after King Charles fury

In his latest column, Jeremy Clarkson shared his thoughts on the monarchy amid growing calls from left-wing critics to have it abolished.
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Not really.
 
In light of the US challenging europe to pay its way more, Clarkson reminds us the UK paid its last instalment for US provided military and weapons from the second world way.

Makes Ukraine sound cheap
 
peetoo said:
In light of the US challenging europe to pay its way more, Clarkson reminds us the UK paid its last instalment for US provided military and weapons from the second world way.

Makes Ukraine sound cheap
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I think the aid to the UK with lend-lease is the only wartime transfer that's higher now, they went above lend-lease to the USSR a while back(on real monetary value)

If anything it shows the huge amount that Ukraine has got and for very little battlefield advantage. I guess the plus side is if you're not a country you don't have to pay it back, nor IMF loans. From my understanding most of the aid to Ukraine isn't of the payback variety, few backroom deals going on though
 

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