Jared Rivers

[Bartram_Class]

Probably deserves a fair bit of credit, we give him quite a bit of stick.

Tremendous today, sticky hands, reading the ball, reliable by foot - if that is the standard, he is firmly in the best 22. A real leader's performance in that 2nd half.

 

[Topkent]

Probably deserves a fair bit of credit, we give him quite a bit of stick.

Tremendous today, sticky hands, reading the ball, reliable by foot - if that is the standard, he is firmly in the best 22. A real leader's performance in that 2nd half.

He is only in the best 22 when frawley or warnock and garland take the best defenders....rivers is a gun at being a loose man
but he is too much of a liability 1 on 1

 

[Demon Dynasty]

He is only in the best 22 when frawley or warnock and garland take the best defenders....rivers is a gun at being a loose man
but he is too much of a liability 1 on 1

Did you watch todays game?

 

[Topkent]

Did you watch todays game?

yep and he was able to jump across in front and do the third man up cause garland and frawley had the 2 big men covered
im not saying he didnt have a great game cuz he did, but he isnt anywhere near as affective when frawley or garland are out of the side

rivers struggles when he is 1 on 1

 

[master bate]

yep and he was able to jump across in front and do the third man up cause garland and frawley had the 2 big men covered
im not saying he didnt have a great game cuz he did, but he isnt anywhere near as affective when frawley or garland are out of the side

rivers struggles when he is 1 on 1

That's mainly a myth. He has his moments of poor defense but he held Roughy well last week and they don't come much bigger. As a lose man he's just as fustrating.

Where he is invaluable is that he's been reliable with the ball and extremely courageous.

 

[Topkent]

That's mainly a myth. He has his moments of poor defense but he held Roughy well last week and they don't come much bigger. As a lose man he's just as fustrating.

Where he is invaluable is that he's been reliable with the ball and extremely courageous.

rubbish mate frawley and garland were on roughead and frankling, rivers does his best work when he is given the 3rd or 4th tall

serviceble player but i still think he needs the others around him

 

[RandB]

He stood up today and was pivotal to our fortunes.

 

[Demon 16]

Played very well today.

Being a spoiling defender isnt the easiest position to get the accolades every week.

 

[Cudi_420]

He is very much a liability 1 on 1. Not strong enough. He is great as a lose man and flying with the flight of the ball, but on the lead he is too slow.

Was easily one of our best today though.

 

[Chip_]

You're all kidding, right?

Up to 3/4 time I would've said we should consider dropping him next week. He was totally dominated by Clark (who was probably best on ground after Beamer), he was constantly trailing Clark to the ball & while Clark wasn't kicking goals (or Rivers having them kicked against him) he was setting them up. Redden side-stepped Grimes, Rivers then had a chance to stop him but misread which way he was going & redden just stepped around him too, not great for an experienced defender. He went to ground too easy as well.

However, we would've lost without his efforts in the last, but they came only after Martin was moved onto Clark & Rivers was freed up. Despite his importance, I wouldn't put him in the best off a quarter.

He can be a very good player, but his biggest impacts are when he's not playing on a key forward.

 

[Gazza_11]

Thought he was very good 1 on 1 v Hawthorn as well, especially when you consider how many times they were just bombing it long and high into our defensive 50 and there were bunches of big Hawthorn bodies lurking.

 

[melbournemartin]

Clark got most of his possessions up the ground where it didn't matter as much (he's a woeful kick). Rivers was superb in defence. Definitely a game he needed to have. It was from his 2004 vintage.

Bailey was full of praise for his performance and he doesn't dish out compliments lightly.

I thought he was decent against Hawthorn, keeping Roughead relatively quiet, but Bailey in the same interview said "Rivers was disappointed with his efforts last week and wanted to improve".

 

[Crusty Demon]

Rivers was definitely crucial in our win today. I've been harsh on him like a lot of fellow posters on here, and for good reason. His first half was fairly poor today, constantly went to ground and wasn't reading the play well. But the second half was super.

His last quarter when we desperately needed a senior player to stand tall, he did it. Took a few telling marks and made some crucial spoils when they were all over us. Hopefully that kick starts his season and he becomes the player we need him to be...

 

[00Stinger]

You're all kidding, right?

Up to 3/4 time I would've said we should consider dropping him next week. He was totally dominated by Clark (who was probably best on ground after Beamer), he was constantly trailing Clark to the ball & while Clark wasn't kicking goals (or Rivers having them kicked against him) he was setting them up. Redden side-stepped Grimes, Rivers then had a chance to stop him but misread which way he was going & redden just stepped around him too, not great for an experienced defender. He went to ground too easy as well.

However, we would've lost without his efforts in the last, but they came only after Martin was moved onto Clark & Rivers was freed up. Despite his importance, I wouldn't put him in the best off a quarter.

He can be a very good player, but his biggest impacts are when he's not playing on a key forward.

Watch the game closely next time mate.

If he wasn't playing today we would have lost {End story}
Several times today he was able to read the ball better than his man and make position to stop the ball coming in. I notice you are from Sydney so I will pressume that you watched the game on tv, which is why you wouldn't have noticed his fantastic positioning.


Rivers you stood up today!

 

[lose]

rubbish mate frawley and garland were on roughead and frankling, rivers does his best work when he is given the 3rd or 4th tall

serviceble player but i still think he needs the others around him

you obviously paid zero attention last week mate cos can guarantee that riv was on roughy 95% of the game last week and chip wasnt on either of the big men..

 

[Chip_]

Watch the game closely next time mate.

If he wasn't playing today we would have lost {End story}
Several times today he was able to read the ball better than his man and make position to stop the ball coming in. I notice you are from Sydney so I will pressume that you watched the game on tv, which is why you wouldn't have noticed his fantastic positioning.


Rivers you stood up today!

Read the post properly next time mate, I said we would've lost without him.
Yeah he stood up late, but he was beaten early. Good resolve not to give up, but if he was good early & then hurt us late people would be calling for his head. Just adding some perspective that while he played well later in the game it was far from a perfect game.

Yeah, recently moved to sydney so I was watching on tv & I know that sometimes you don't see everything on tv, but you do see other things better. Clark possessions might have been up the ground but he was there link, he had 10 inside 50s & setup a heap of their goals, Rivers was getting beaten & the wrong opponent.

 

[THE STING2]

He was good today. I'll take him being a bit loose when he plays like the old Rivers, it's when he doesn't touch the ball and\or turns it over that annoys me. He has to stop falling over though.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

He was outstanding.

 

[demonfan9]

Just watched the replay, he was fantastic.

 

[Topkent]

you obviously paid zero attention last week mate cos can guarantee that riv was on roughy 95% of the game last week and chip wasnt on either of the big men..

REGUARDLESS-- my point doesnt change... if it was a one on one in the goalsquare with an open fifty just rivers and one of any of a sides best 3 forwards .. i would be very nervous with him body on body or on the lead..

He plays the loose man as good as anyone in the afl.. but against a team like geelong who have 3 power forwards an he has to take 1 he struggles ala last year when hawkins killed him ...

 

[Beard of Nicko]

To summarize the vibes I'm agreeing with in this thread:

- Best reader of play from defense I have ever seen for Melbourne.

- Far from the best one on one defender.

- Falls over too much.

- Better with the others in.

 

[maxmustard]

His best football is very good, he can be caught out one on one but I think its overstated. With Frawley and Garland up and going it's a non issue anyways. He goes at it hard too, which at this point should not be underestimated considering our recent flaky displays.

 

[Klyntonius]

His best football is very good, he can be caught out one on one but I think its overstated. With Frawley and Garland up and going it's a non issue anyways. He goes at it hard too, which at this point should not be underestimated considering our recent flaky displays.

I agree with this. I can see a place for Jared down back but he needs to be able to consistently meet the level he set last weekend. The game has become more about defensive units than defenders individually so I can see his deficiencies being fairly covered by the other members of our defensive team, similar to the way that Nick Maxwell's ball-reading skill is used at Collingwood though he can be exposed one-on-one.

 

[maxmustard]

I agree with this. I can see a place for Jared down back but he needs to be able to consistently meet the level he set last weekend. The game has become more about defensive units than defenders individually so I can see his deficiencies being fairly covered by the other members of our defensive team, similar to the way that Nick Maxwell's ball-reading skill is used at Collingwood though he can be exposed one-on-one.

Yep, that's where he is most effective, our version of Maxwell.

 

[Topkent]

To summarize the vibes I'm agreeing with in this thread:

- Best reader of play from defense I have ever seen for Melbourne.

- Far from the best one on one defender.

- Falls over too much.

- Better with the others in.

spot on.. though you might be exagerrating with that first statement

guess that means will love his good and hate his bad