Jayco AlUla thread

[eth-dog]

Thoughts on Jayco plans moving forward;
Sprinters - Chase Groves return, De Lie?
GC - Hindley return?
Classics & one day races - seems the team targeted riders towards this for this season and looks solid so far

Won't be able to afford De Lie. Groves is ideal, depending on salary. I wouldn't be surprised if we look internally to develop GC between Covi, De Pretto and Pickering.

Ackerman is a better sprinter than what a lot of teams have. They don't have the budget for anybody on medium or above salary unless money gets freed up by a transfer.

Ackerman won't get many wins but a lot of places IMO. Our sprint train isn't great and he's not as good as Groenewegen. But he'll get bulk points importantly.

They'll get there you would think.


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Yeah, we need to dominate the Aussie summers every year tbh.

 

[The Kings Ransom]

Won't be able to afford De Lie. Groves is ideal, depending on salary. I wouldn't be surprised if we look internally to develop GC between Covi, De Pretto and Pickering.

Ackerman won't get many wins but a lot of places IMO. Our sprint train isn't great and he's not as good as Groenewegen. But he'll get bulk points importantly.

Yeah, we need to dominate the Aussie summers every year tbh.

I don't quite understand the strategy or the prestige of scheduling various races, but taking a decent team to these 1.1 races in Spain seem like a big win in terms of points available vs. competition vying for them.

 

[Vader]

I don't quite understand the strategy or the prestige of scheduling various races, but taking a decent team to these 1.1 races in Spain seem like a big win in terms of points available vs. competition vying for them.

It's how Astana bulked up their points last year - sent strong teams to the minor races, and barely bothered showing up to the major races. They knew their best wasn't going to be good enough to claim points in races like the TDF, so they basically gave them away and focused on races they could be effective in.

 

[yaco55]

The three priorities for Jayco will be pursuing Groves, retaining Schmid and deciding if they retain O'Connor. gee, Ackermann started a headwind sprint with 300 metres to go. You needed to be patient and make it a 50 metre sprint.

 

[Orange Agent]

The three priorities for Jayco will be pursuing Groves, retaining Schmid and deciding if they retain O'Connor. gee, Ackermann started a headwind sprint with 300 metres to go. You needed to be patient and make it a 50 metre sprint.

What else could he do? They got the lead out way wrong.

 

[Orange Agent]

Ackerman won't get many wins but a lot of places IMO. Our sprint train isn't great and he's not as good as Groenewegen. But he'll get bulk points importantly.

Agree with this, he will be consistent and get top 5's. I think wasting time chasing Welsford when they could have invested that time into trying to get Plowright is a massive mistake.

 

[eth-dog]

Agree with this, he will be consistent and get top 5's. I think wasting time chasing Welsford when they could have invested that time into trying to get Plowright is a massive mistake.

Agreed. Plowright is the perfect second sprinter. Next year you tell him that we drop Ackermann, he'll be racing for himself in 2028. But also you can sign Groves 3 years and promise the same thing at the end of this or next year.

The lead out train is an issue. Mezgec is good but is retiring. O'Brien basically the only good lead out rider now (Schmid and Bling are good in a selective sprint but shit on a lead out) and it's a big issue. I'd almost go to Ackermann and say "We want you to have Kell, Caputo and Sutterlin this year". They are his train the next 2 years.

 

[yaco55]

Dont want Plowright in the jayco team because he is a loose cannon who does his own things in races and doesn't follow team orders. Think you will find that Donaldson is being groomed as a lead our rider, but Jayco could do with one or two more riders to fill the train.

 

[eth-dog]

Dont want Plowright in the jayco team because he is a loose cannon who does his own things in races and doesn't follow team orders. Think you will find that Donaldson is being groomed as a lead our rider, but Jayco could do with one or two more riders to fill the train.

I don't care if he's being "groomed" for it, he hasn't proven shit at it. I'll take a "loose cannon" as you say to have a quality rider when we carry so many passengers like Porter, McKenzie, Donaldson, Hellemose, CJJ and many more that I'm forgetting. We can be a team that finishes mid table every triennium instead of struggling to stay up.