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Here are the latest Epstein documents.
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Unusual for you to spit the dummy! Did you report my post as well?You can't compare a photo of him alive and smiling to a photo of him deceased either, but that didn't stop you. The photo of him on the trolley (deceased) is clearly him, with the main difference to other photos being that he's dead.
Time for this topic to go to the Conspiracy board.
Time for this topic to go to the Conspiracy board.
(selected bits from below)
Jeffrey Epstein and When to Take Conspiracies Seriously
The challenge in thinking about a case like the suspicious suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, the supposed “billionaire” who spent his life acquiring sex slaves and serving as a procurer to the ruling class, can be summed up in two sentences. Most conspiracy theories are false. But often some of the things they’re trying to explain are real.
Sometimes conspiracy theories point toward something worth investigating. A few point toward the truth.
the premise of the QAnon fantasia, that certain elite networks of influence, complicity and blackmail have enabled sexual predators to exploit victims on an extraordinary scale — well, that isn’t a conspiracy theory, is it? That seems to just be true.
And not only true of Epstein and his pals. As I’ve written before, when I was starting my career as a journalist I sometimes brushed up against people peddling a story about a network of predators in the Catholic hierarchy — not just pedophile priests, but a self-protecting cabal above them — that seemed like a classic case of the paranoid style, a wild overstatement of the scandal’s scope. I dismissed them then as conspiracy theorists, and indeed they had many of conspiracism’s vices — above all, a desire to believe that the scandal they were describing could be laid entirely at the door of their theological enemies, liberal or traditional.
But on many important points and important names, they were simply right.
Likewise with the secular world’s predators. Imagine being told the scope of Harvey Weinstein’s alleged operation before it all came crashing down — not just the ex-Mossad black ops element but the possibility that his entire production company also acted as a procurement-and-protection operation for one of its founders. A conspiracy theory, surely! Imagine being told all we know about the late, unlamented Epstein — that he wasn’t just a louche billionaire (wasn’t, indeed, a proper billionaire at all) but a man mysteriously made and mysteriously protected who ran a pedophile island with a temple to an unknown god and plotted his own “Boys From Brazil” endgame in plain sight of his Harvard-D.C.-House of Windsor pals. Too wild to be believed!
And yet. Where networks of predation and blackmail are concerned, then, the distinction I’m drawing between conspiracy theories and underlying realities weakens just a bit.
Great, except you made this comparison, where Epstein is alive, younger and smiling:Unusual for you to spit the dummy! Did you report my post as well?
What you can't do is compare a front on picture to a side on profile and say it's the same nose.
He wasn't smiling when the picture in court was taken and while colour and tissue can change appearance in death, not cartilage and the shape of his nose. That's a fact!
As I said I don't have and am not stating any theory, but AG Barr has stated that death may have ended the investigation against JE, but all the co-accused named (and there've been a few) will be pursued. Good.
Looks like his Pedo Island is being searched by the FBI. Also good.
Not much wrong with a good conspiracy every now and then but this board should be more about facts and BigFooty has a Conspiracy board to discuss conspiracies. Is his death and the whole sordid episode worth investigating? Of course!Don't think so Sprockets.
(selected bits from below)Opinion | Jeffrey Epstein and When to Take Conspiracies Seriously (Published 2019)
Sometimes conspiracy theories point toward something worth investigating. A few point toward the truth.www.nytimes.com
Unlikely and why would you have it to make yourself look worse? It's more likely the lighting in the (death) photo and it might also be swollen, given he hung himself.Is it possible that between the 2 photos, that Epstein had cosmetic nose surgery?
He might have got it, so that it was not so easy to identify him in person and photos, from the earlier and younger man pictures.
Unlikely and why would you have it to make yourself look worse?
Ears and nose keeps growing until we die apparently but they also droop with age especially the tip, Epstein's nose in death looks like droop.
He's lived a life of power and prestige and freedom to do whatever he wanted, being in jail is likely to be something he couldn't live with so survival in there, possibly for the rest of his life, may not have interested him.I'd have thought that survival might be more important than looking good.
Especially if you are a multi millionaire.
However since his apparent suicide seems FBI have gone nuts and raided his Island. Not being alive, he can't put blocks through the courts anymore to stop authorities searching his properties.
What’s the advantage of pretending he’s dead?
Versus just killing him?
What’s the advantage of pretending he’s dead?
Versus just killing him?
Apparently someone reported his death 40 mins before it was first announced in the media. Apparently was dead for hours. Maybe a paramedic leaking things?
Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of several women who accused Epstein of sexual assault, also said she flew to Paris with Epstein as a teenager in 2001. Epstein’s alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell also joined the couple on the 2001 trip, according to ABC News.
Court documents state that Giuffre said there was an instance in which Maxwell “sent [her] to have sex with the owner of a large hotel chain” in Paris. Maxwell had denied the claims and had not been charged with a crime.
It's not just sex trafficking.
It is claimed at least one of his associates was organising for rendezvous's or hookups between the rich and powerful and young women.
Pimping
Younger by months or weeks?Great, except you made this comparison, where Epstein is alive, younger and smiling:
I'm willing to concede that he may have been 'got at' but the rubbish about it not being him on the trolley is OTT and doesn't belong here.
PS. I didn't "spit the dummy", nor did I report your post - why would I?