Current Jeffrey Epstein - The fallout

Who killed Jeffrey Epstein?

  • He killed himself

    Votes: 15 12.7%

  • Rank incompetence enabled his suicide

    Votes: 17 14.4%

  • Bill Clinton

    Votes: 30 25.4%

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 19 16.1%

  • The Russians

    Votes: 2 1.7%

  • The Saudis

    Votes: 3 2.5%

  • MI5/6 - British Royals

    Votes: 22 18.6%

  • Ghislane Maxwell

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Someone's Dad

    Votes: 9 7.6%
  • Total voters
    118

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Cap said:
Surely the thought here isn't that everyone on the list is a paedophile?
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THEY'RE ALL GUILTY BRING THEM DOWN

no, I suspect most / many won't have had anything to do with that side of what he did and were mostly used for networking reasons.

There will be some names that will surprise us and not be able to adequately be able to explain away the relationship is my guess.
 
Kurve said:
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Epstein Documents Naming Prominent Figures Expected to Be Released Soon​

The documents, related to a lawsuit involving Ghislaine Maxwell, an associate of the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein, are anticipated to include names previously redacted.

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Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell standing next to each other at what appears to be a party. Mr. Epstein has his left arm around Ms. Maxwell’s shoulders and his left cheek pressed against the side of her head. She grins widely.

Jeffrey Epstein, left, and Ghislaine Maxwell in Manhattan in 2005. Ms. Maxwell was convicted in 2021 of conspiring with Mr. Epstein and sentenced to 20 years in prison.Credit...Joe Schildhorn/Patrick McMullan, via Getty Images

Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell standing next to each other at what appears to be a party. Mr. Epstein has his left arm around Ms. Maxwell’s shoulders and his left cheek pressed against the side of her head. She grins widely.

Maggie Astor NYTimes
By Maggie Astor
Jan. 2, 2024
Court documents related to the disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein are expected to be released soon with many names that were previously redacted, and prominent figures on the right are holding up the impending disclosures as evidence of wrongdoing by Democrats despite a lack of concrete information about what they will show.
Most of the names being made public — currently cited in the documents as John Does — have previously been identified in other court documents or in news reports as having been associated with Mr. Epstein.
A longtime friend of powerful people, including politicians, business executives and royalty, Mr. Epstein was accused of preying on girls as young as 14, bringing them to his homes and paying them for sex acts. He died at 66 by suicide in jail in 2019, before he could stand trial in Manhattan on federal sex-trafficking charges, but his associate Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted in 2021 of conspiring with him and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Mr. Epstein’s estate has since paid out about $150 million in settlements to more than 125 women.
It is in connection with a defamation lawsuit against Ms. Maxwell that the documents are being released. That lawsuit was brought by one of Mr. Epstein’s and Ms. Maxwell’s victims, Virginia Giuffre. Previously, many of the names in the documents were sealed, but a New York judge ruled in December that some of them could be unsealed.

Multiple news reports have said that former President Bill Clinton will be among those named, a fact conservative commentators have jumped on, though there is no indication that it will be in connection with allegations of wrongdoing, and Ms. Giuffre has not accused Mr. Clinton of any misconduct. His office said in 2019 that he had flown on Mr. Epstein’s private plane but had no knowledge of Mr. Epstein’s crimes, and a spokesman pointed to that statement on Tuesday.

“President Clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago, or those with which he has been recently charged in New York,” the 2019 statement said, acknowledging trips and meetings with Mr. Epstein in the early 2000s. It added, “He’s not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade.”
Being named in the documents does not necessarily indicate that a person participated in or was aware of Mr. Epstein’s or Ms. Maxwell’s actions, and it was already known that Mr. Epstein was friendly with Mr. Clinton — as well as countless other celebrities and officials, including Donald J. Trump. It remains to be seen if the documents will say anything significant about Mr. Clinton or any other person.
But right-wing officials and commentators have seized on the impending release without caveats.
“For some us, it’s no surprise at all that Bill Clinton will be named in the Jeffrey Epstein files. We said it a long time ago but they labeled us conspiracy theorists,” Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, wrote on X, adding, “Pedophiles belong in jail not on secret government lists.”
Ms. Greene’s comment adopted some conservatives’ description of the coming documents as a “list” of Mr. Epstein’s associates, but according to a person briefed on the documents, many of them are depositions taken from victims of Mr. Epstein and related court filings.

Others playing up the documents included the far-right commentator Benny Johnson; Graham Allen, a right-wing video streamer; and Brigitte Gabriel, the founder of the anti-Muslim group ACT for America.
One name expected to be included in the documents is that of Prince Andrew, who in 2022 settled a lawsuit filed by Ms. Giuffre accusing him of sexual abuse.
Matthew Goldstein and Benjamin Weiser contributed reporting.
Maggie Astor covers politics for The New York Times, focusing on breaking news, policies, campaigns and how underrepresented or marginalized groups are affected by political systems. More about Maggie Astor
 

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Kane McGoodwin said:
Buggar... have to wait longer.

Why not release the rest of the names now?
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It's been released, this only pertains to 1-2 names which have been delayed pending appeals.
 
Kurve said:
Alan Dershowitz is trending on twitter.
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Because there's testimony in the deposition that Epstein had one of his underage girls sexually please him many, many times and then he went and arranged for the US legal system to leave Epstein and his associates alone in regards to future allegations.
 
Taylor said:
Because there's testimony in the deposition that Epstein had one of his underage girls sexually please him many, many times and then he went and arranged for the US legal system to leave Epstein and his associates alone in regards to future allegations.
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Yes .... I'm trying to find a link to the documents so I can post them in here.
 
Epstein said Clinton liked them young...


www.theguardian.com

Jeffrey Epstein: documents linking associates to sex offender unsealed

Bill Clinton, Michael Jackson, David Copperfield and Prince Andrew among names contained in court documents
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.9news.com.au

Ghislaine Maxwell breaks silence on unredacted Epstein documents

A trove of documents relating to the deceased sex trafficker has been revealed.
www.9news.com.au www.9news.com.au
 
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Some of the allegations made against Dershowitz.

There's sworn testimony from two members of Epstein's staff that Dershowitz was often at Epstein's Florida mansion for massages. Interesting to note that on questions of Dershowitz, Epstein invoked his Fifth Amendment rights, as did three of Epstein's co-conspirators.

There's a lot of reading to get a fuller picture.

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Brett Cummings said:
No doubt bill gates will be protected. Rat prick.
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I don't believe anyone has yet compiled the list in a simple publication, we're just getting news reports of those who we expected to be there anyway and will soon die from looking so frail as they hold Hilary's hand.
 
Brett Cummings said:
No doubt bill gates will be protected. Rat prick.
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He's not named. The only person that we didn't already know about who looks bad, from my brief reading while I'm also working, is David Copperfield. Not sure how anybody came to the conclusion a "liberal Prime Minister" is named unless it is the John Doe currently appealing. Ehud barak is named in a question but any wrongdoing by him is explicitly denied in the response.
 
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