So that makes it ok? Strange logic.
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Autopsy Jesse Hogan - Worth 220 Points
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You need me to explain to you what respect is? Thats concerning. Maybe your experiences are different to mine. Im happy to leave it at that. You seem pretty keen to stand on your moral high horse and wave the look at me flag around, if you think all is rosy then that's great, and I respect that.
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Makes what OK? I don't think that this generation lacks respect and discipline anymore than any other generation. They have their issues, social media is a huge worry on overall health IMO but to say they have no respect or don't want to work hard is generalising at its best.
I would have loved to hear YOUR definition of respect and why its currently lacking, its why I asked. You also mentioned that the young people you hire don't want to work. Maybe you are just shit at hiring and creating a motivating workplace.
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A fair call. I just want to know where the 75% young people don't know how to work hard came from. A broad brush approach to say the least.
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Can i ask a question how many young people do you know and is it a fair representation of young people.
Cause i was talking to a friend this morning and hes just got his first mortgage.
I know many friends who have thrown themselves into work as soon as school finished.
Another funny thing, every summer i go to some country town, work for 3 months at hard physical jobs and I find it a refreshing compared to how hard uni can be.
Given how many kids go to uni, I think quite a few know hard work.
Do you just look at the bottom 15% cause every generation has those.
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There's plenty of disrespect in current generations. They complain about everything, school/sports is EASY these days, every kid gets told they are good regardless of performance/results, classes are brought DOWN not UP by the lowest member(s) of the class. There are far less truths told to kids these days.
The culture is one of blame, there's an excuse for everything except the one actual thing: themselves
Snowflakes is the term.
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I 100% agree with you.
Did you mean to quote me or the other guy who thinks young people are lazy?
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Right. See this is where the whole thing was going (hence being the Hogan thread) and where I was pushing Carn to, you and others think this generation is weak for speaking up about mental health issues. You think that everyone is coddled so much that the slightest setback means they play the mental health card and blame society and not themselves. Not willing to work hard, given everything, not told hard truths and want a participation award?
I guess back in your day people just shut up, got on with it stayed miserable or offed themselves right? What a great generation to aspire to.
You will now comeback with a thats not what I meant comment but we both know it is.
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I think you are looking at this wrongly. Being resilient and taking responsibility for yourself without complaining about everything often brings some satisfaction and happiness. The unhappiness people I meet have usually adopted the role of victim.
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How is admitting there is a problem NOT taking responsibility? How is admitting there is a problem playing the role of the victim? Opposite in most cases I would have thought.
Yeh maybe you’re right, that’s probably why my main guys have been with me for my 9 years of operation. I also have no idea how to run my business from my 1.5 million dollar house on the river with not a single handout. Sandi, hogan and mundy being close Neighbour’s. Happy for you to show me where I’m going wrong though
I’m the same age as you champ. How things for you? Nice of you to get personal btw. Didn’t think it was really necessary.
Hmmm, party at carnthedockers place?Yeh maybe you’re right, that’s probably why my main guys have been with me for my 9 years of operation. I also have no idea how to run my business from my 1.5 million dollar house on the river with not a single handout. Sandi, hogan and mundy being close Neighbour’s. Happy for you to show me where I’m going wrong though
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Haha nice flex dude. Doesn’t really add to the convo but happy you are successful.Yeh maybe you’re right, that’s probably why my main guys have been with me for my 9 years of operation. I also have no idea how to run my business from my 1.5 million dollar house on the river with not a single handout. Sandi, hogan and mundy being close Neighbour’s. Happy for you to show me where I’m going wrong though
Older people believe that younger generation has no respect and that world would be better if things were done their way.
Who would have thought it.
Pretty much the most cliched way of looking at the world really. People must be able to see how nonsensical it is to think that and not realise that that's the whole point of being young... to not do what old people do or want you to do.
It's only way anything has moved forward and its the way it's meant to be.
And it seems it's old people prerogative to get angry about this but it's just wasted rage really. The false belief that the world would just be better if everything stayed the same.
Who would have thought it.
Pretty much the most cliched way of looking at the world really. People must be able to see how nonsensical it is to think that and not realise that that's the whole point of being young... to not do what old people do or want you to do.
It's only way anything has moved forward and its the way it's meant to be.
And it seems it's old people prerogative to get angry about this but it's just wasted rage really. The false belief that the world would just be better if everything stayed the same.
You’re welcome to come mate, I’ll talk footy with anyone.
Not sure how you can look at the spike of assaults against teachers in recent years, as an example, and not think there's at least a little bit wrong with how some kids are brought up these days.
You could also look at the spike in young people being more active in social issues and charities or the decrease in alcohol use amongst young people these days so I guess it's what you look at.
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I think our education system is letting young people down badly at the moment. (not directly related to your comment, and I wasn’t aware that there was a spike in assaults against teachers which is of course totally unacceptable.)
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Unfortunately I think you are correct. It saddens me to say I've seen this first hand.
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I have a son who has just finished school (an international school in Indonesia mind you, not an Aus school. But I do have significant insight into the Aus education system) and it disturbed me how similar the experience was to my education four/five decades earlier despite the world being such a different place.
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Sorry to hear that. I've seen too many things to list here but all children and teachers deservea right to a safe education and work zone.
If a staff member was asulted in any other profession the adult or adolescent would be delt with according to law. But not in public education and in some incidences private.
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Some of us looked at the anti-war and women's lib protests of the 70s, the anti-nuclear protests of the 80s, the environment, union, and aboriginal protests of the 90s (I was at Mudoch Uni at that time, there was a protest on campus or elsewhere every week), anti-war protests of the early 2000s - but I admit none of these made it to social media so they possibly didn't actually happen.
As for alcohol, mates 20yolds just finished a summer of festivals here and even over at Byron (July). Struggled to see many not on one drug or another. Govt keeps pushing up alcohol costs in an aim (as well as prop up the budget) to curb drinking. Unsurprisingly, many now just get their escape from the stresses of this world from other drugs or addictions. All of them have the potential to be just as damaging to an individual and those around them.
All generations are just as good and just as bad as the next, just sometimes in different ways, we are largely a product of our environment. My (Australian) gen X grew up in some of the most stable times in the whole of history - little war (at least at home), two parents at home for most I went to school with, jobs after study or trade, limited sources of information exposure and judgement, little fashion choices, little debt for study and first houses, defined career paths with junior foot in the door positions.
Current gens have very little of that stability and total exposure (I was lucky to see one or two photos of myself a year and only my friends knew and maybe judged my thoughts) - no wonder some of them struggle or look for alternatives when the road forward is so unclear, difficult and expensive with constant exposure and judgement from all angles. Maybe that's why the Pavlich replacement we were hoping for looks more like a Jesse? Anyway just adding my thoughts to the broader conversation. No intention to offend.