Society/Culture Jordan B Peterson

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The piece actually goes into how woke culture makes it difficult to maintain an interracial relationship.

We all probably have family experiences of the difficulty with some.

But few of us are woke enough to blame cultural marxism.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Inter-racial relationships not working because of any issue about race is not evidence of cultural marxism.

You are happy to cherry pick evidence when it supports your argument.

Still waiting for examples of how Peterson's promotion of theory about cultural Marxism shows his lack of expertise.

 

[ShanDog]

But those wedges are much larger prior to modern culture.

Irrelevant. We know Western society was far more racist a few generations ago. That doesn't make this bullshit a non-issue.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Where is the direct quote where he is wrong?

Your context and timestamp please. Any credible supporting rebuttal materials would also be good.

The quote comes at 3.20.

Post modernists are not Marxists.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

They don't identify that way because it would be an acknowledgment that Communism has failed, the revolution won't happen and all they are left with is trying to influence society by bogus means such as identity politics, the gender wage gap and 'patriarchy'.

This directly contradicts its free real estate's argument that cultural Marxists are attempting to alienate workers to create revolution via cultural means rather than economic.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Irrelevant. We know Western society was far more racist a few generations ago. That doesn't make this bullshit a non-issue.

Identity politics means you have to take on the whole box and dice. You don't get to sift out the bullshit.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Irrelevant. We know Western society was far more racist a few generations ago. That doesn't make this bullshit a non-issue.

And this is definitely caused by cultural Marxism rather than some people just taking things a little too far (as people are prone to do)?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You are happy to cherry pick evidence when it supports your argument.

How in Allah's name is a failed inter-relationship a symptom of cultural Marxism?

Still waiting for examples of how Peterson's promotion of theory about cultural Marxism shows his lack of expertise.

Here.

 

[its free real estate]

This directly contradicts its free real estate's argument that cultural Marxists are attempting to alienate workers to create revolution via cultural means rather than economic.

Well what does Funkyzeit Mit Matt identify as? Marxist? Socialist? That’s the key question.

 

[Frank Bunn]

This directly contradicts its free real estate's argument that cultural Marxists are attempting to alienate workers to create revolution via cultural means rather than economic.

I don't think so but I'll let him answer on that.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The quote comes at 3.20.

Post modernists are not Marxists.

How is post modernism not fundamentally underpinned by the position that traditional culture is oppressive?

It ceases to exist as a philosophy if it doesn't have that core belief!!!!!

 

[Frank Bunn]

Here.

Anything in particular?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

Well what does Funkyzeit Mit Matt identify as? Marxist? Socialist? That’s the key question.

Google eventually led to me to understand that reference but I'm glad you have changed your name from that, Soft Downhill Skier lol

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

How is post modernism not fundamentally underpinned by the position that traditional culture is oppressive?

It ceases to exist as a philosophy if it doesn't have that core belief!!!!!

Post-modernists completely reject the premise of Marxism or any other claim to truth or scientific understanding.

Post-modernists emerged as an opposition to Marxism, not an embrace of it.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Post-modernists completely reject the premise of Marxism or any other claim to truth or scientific understanding.

Post-modernists emerged as an opposition to Marxism, not an embrace of it.

Cultural marxism, not the entire philosophy itself.

Both are moves for social change based upon the same premise.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Cultural marxism, not the entire philosophy itself.

Both are moves for social change based upon the same premise.

There's always push for reform, from anyone.

If reform is enough to earn the label culturally marxist, then it's meaningless.

WHat reforms, specifically, are being advanced by cultural marxists?

 

[ShanDog]

And we're back at the beginning.

I think it's safe to say what some attribute to the thinking of Marx, others do not. Doesn't seem like any mutual understanding is being reached.

 

[ShanDog]

Identity politics means you have to take on the whole box and dice. You don't get to sift out the bullshit.

Intersectional Postmodern Neo-Marxism

 

[EasternTiger]

And now you all know how Jordan feels.

I don't want to hear anymore pissing and moaning about how much money he makes.

Man deserves every cent.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

I don't want to hear anymore pissing and moaning about how much money he makes.

Citation needed of this happening.

 

[its free real estate]

Google eventually led to me to understand that reference but I'm glad you have changed your name from that, Soft Downhill Skier lol

The problem with modern left wingers is their hipsterism. That ideology you think they’re into? No one actually believes that, and the form they’re into you probably haven’t heard of (and don’t forget, has never actually been tried so cannot be criticised!).

 

[ShanDog]

Citation needed of this happening.

He's constantly called a grifter here, how much he makes from Patreon etc is constantly bright up as a thinly veiled slight in publications and I'm sure a few have directly referenced how much he earns of a negative light. I believe SDS is one among a few others.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

The problem with modern left wingers is their hipsterism. That ideology you think they’re into? No one actually believes that, and the form they’re into you probably haven’t heard of (and don’t forget, has never actually been tried so cannot be criticised!).

That is beyond vague.

 

[its free real estate]

That is beyond vague.

Thank you for summarising your beliefs.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

He's constantly called a grifter here, how much he makes from Patreon etc is constantly bright up as a thinly veiled slight in publications and I'm sure a few have directly referenced how much he earns of a negative light. I believe SDS is one among a few others.

Being called a grifter isn't a complaint about how much money he's earnt. It's a condemnation of the methods he uses to make money.

Until I see someone complain about how much he makes rather than how he makes it this is meaningless.